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Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:38:00 -
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I've been trying for months to get into this game. I'll play a few days and then get irritated and hang it up for a month or so and then try again. I'm just not quite understanding it for some reason. I mean, I get the basic gist of it's purpose and storyline, I just don't quite get the game-play.
Looks like it's rapidly evolving into a 'Pay-To-Win' kinda game...am I wrong?
The tiny bit of 'Help' files I've read told me that I should retreat against enemy players who outmatch me...EVERYONE seems to outmatch me! I spawn in, shoot, get shot, die....that's about the full explanation of my game time in Dust. I know there must be more to it than that.
I see it's quite a complex program and there's a whole lot of intricacies and dynamics to the game and I'll get all of that eventually. Right now I would like to just know how to last longer than 3 seconds before dying. If I could just stay alive long enough to get some kills or accomplish some kind of objectives I might find some interest in this game. Right now though it's just frustrating, irritating and boring.
Anyone have any tips? Is it possible to be an effective player without buying a bunch of crap in the marketplace? |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:44:00 -
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Four basic classes: assault, logistics, scout, and heavy. To play this game you should pick which suits your playstyle best and improve on that suit. I'm a WP *****, so I like to make lots of WP by reviving/repairing/resupplying team-mates, and therefore, logistics suits my playstyle. After using the logistics suit for a long period of time, I noted it's weaknesses and compensated for them with modules. That's the story of how I got accustomed to this game.
The end. |
Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:47:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Anyone have any tips? Is it possible to be an effective player without buying a bunch of crap in the marketplace? It is possible, yes. Unfortunately, it's more time intensive. If you haven't already tried it, I'd suggest playing skirmish rather than ambush. Then you can try to get more WP through hacking objectives rather than killing people. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:50:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Four basic classes: assault, logistics, scout, and heavy. To play this game you should pick which suits your playstyle best and improve on that suit. I'm a WP *****, so I like to make lots of WP by reviving/repairing/resupplying team-mates, and therefore, logistics suits my playstyle. After using the logistics suit for a long period of time, I noted it's weaknesses and compensated for them with modules. That's the story of how I got accustomed to this game.
The end. Maybe that's the end for you but it did very little for me.
So I choose 'Frontline Assault'. However, I can't figure how to be a decent frontline when I can't take more than 3-4 bullets without dying. Not only am I weak as a butterfly but I seem to be shooting rubber bullets since I unload...re-load and unload again into enemies and barely take half their armor.
I don't know....maybe it's just not my thing. I liked MAG, I liked EVE Online, I like Battelfield 3, I liked Vanquish, I liked Section 8, etc., etc., etc.....Dust though...I'm just not quite getting.
Glad it only cost me $20 to find out! |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:51:00 -
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Anyanka Shadowmane wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Anyone have any tips? Is it possible to be an effective player without buying a bunch of crap in the marketplace? It is possible, yes. Unfortunately, it's more time intensive. If you haven't already tried it, I'd suggest playing skirmish rather than ambush. Then you can try to get more WP through hacking objectives rather than killing people.
Ah....thank you! I will give that a try! I do much prefer going after objectives than trading bullets anyway.
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Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:55:00 -
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Best thing to do mate is stick in a group or buddie up with a heavy. don't just run around trying to kill ppl. Look at were you team is attacking or defending pick a spot with good cover and know what your exit will be if alota reds show up.
Although I would like to see a newbie training corp. EVE has various corps that have vets who show newbies the ropes like EVE University.
Edit - also a gd thing to remember is to fire bursts altho it doesn't seem like theres recoil your bullets will be spraying everywhere if you just hold fire |
Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:57:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Anyanka Shadowmane wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Anyone have any tips? Is it possible to be an effective player without buying a bunch of crap in the marketplace? It is possible, yes. Unfortunately, it's more time intensive. If you haven't already tried it, I'd suggest playing skirmish rather than ambush. Then you can try to get more WP through hacking objectives rather than killing people. Ah....thank you! I will give that a try! I do much prefer going after objectives than trading bullets anyway. You're welcome.
Also, it's worth trying to find some people to hang around with, even if it's just on a game by game basis. If you can find a coherent squad to stick with it'll really improve your survivability. |
Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
184
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:01:00 -
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You need to skill up for some dropsuits and armour modules. Skill up your weapon of choice sharpshooter skills. Join a Corp, squad with some team players, play better. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:03:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Four basic classes: assault, logistics, scout, and heavy. To play this game you should pick which suits your playstyle best and improve on that suit. I'm a WP *****, so I like to make lots of WP by reviving/repairing/resupplying team-mates, and therefore, logistics suits my playstyle. After using the logistics suit for a long period of time, I noted it's weaknesses and compensated for them with modules. That's the story of how I got accustomed to this game.
The end. Maybe that's the end for you but it did very little for me. So I choose 'Frontline Assault'. However, I can't figure how to be a decent frontline when I can't take more than 3-4 bullets without dying. Not only am I weak as a butterfly but I seem to be shooting rubber bullets since I unload...re-load and unload again into enemies and barely take half their armor. I don't know....maybe it's just not my thing. I liked MAG, I liked EVE Online, I like Battelfield 3, I liked Vanquish, I liked Section 8, etc., etc., etc.....Dust though...I'm just not quite getting. Glad it only cost me $20 to find out!
Well, that DOES help you, you even gave me some information to help you. You say you die quickly, and this seems to be your largest problem, and therefore you have found your class weakness, now you compensate for it with Dust's form of the Create-a-Class system. By stacking shield extenders and armor plates, you will find yourself with much more HP, and you will be able to survive much more. By investing into the Assault Rifle Proficiency/Operation skills, you will be able to buy better equipment and you will also earn passive boosts yo your weapon. It's all about SP unfortunately. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:09:00 -
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focus 1 role and skill it. |
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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:15:00 -
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One piece of advice. Actually 2. First, check out the New Recruit section here:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=899
Secondly, join one of the big-name corps to get you started. I'm talking Zion, Seraphim (maybe), Betamax, etc. Search up URAV1 in corporations and apply if you want to join Universal Royal Allies, we've gotten a few people over the Christmas break who just started, and can help you out.
Its important to get into a corp early on, they can supply you with ISK, and more importantly knowledge. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:19:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Four basic classes: assault, logistics, scout, and heavy. To play this game you should pick which suits your playstyle best and improve on that suit. I'm a WP *****, so I like to make lots of WP by reviving/repairing/resupplying team-mates, and therefore, logistics suits my playstyle. After using the logistics suit for a long period of time, I noted it's weaknesses and compensated for them with modules. That's the story of how I got accustomed to this game.
The end. Maybe that's the end for you but it did very little for me. So I choose 'Frontline Assault'. However, I can't figure how to be a decent frontline when I can't take more than 3-4 bullets without dying. Not only am I weak as a butterfly but I seem to be shooting rubber bullets since I unload...re-load and unload again into enemies and barely take half their armor. I don't know....maybe it's just not my thing. I liked MAG, I liked EVE Online, I like Battelfield 3, I liked Vanquish, I liked Section 8, etc., etc., etc.....Dust though...I'm just not quite getting. Glad it only cost me $20 to find out! Well, that DOES help you, you even gave me some information to help you. You say you die quickly, and this seems to be your largest problem, and therefore you have found your class weakness, now you compensate for it with Dust's form of the Create-a-Class system. By stacking shield extenders and armor plates, you will find yourself with much more HP, and you will be able to survive much more. By investing into the Assault Rifle Proficiency/Operation skills, you will be able to buy better equipment and you will also earn passive boosts yo your weapon. It's all about SP unfortunately. Well...I would honestly much rather it be about SP than money. I can't stand 'Pay-To-Win' games.
Thanks for the info, I see most of my character traits are at level 1-2 so I've got some ways to go there. I just haven't been playing enough to build a decent soldier. I think I'm going to stick to the Skirmish matches for a bit until I have some SP to spend. Been trying Ambush until now and getting nowhere. In 2 matches of Skirmish I've actually been able to accomplish more than the past several months of playing Ambush matches.
Thanks again for the advice. |
Gaff Origami
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:25:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote: Maybe that's the end for you but it did very little for me.
So I choose 'Frontline Assault'. However, I can't figure how to be a decent frontline when I can't take more than 3-4 bullets without dying. Not only am I weak as a butterfly but I seem to be shooting rubber bullets since I unload...re-load and unload again into enemies and barely take half their armor.
I don't know....maybe it's just not my thing. I liked MAG, I liked EVE Online, I like Battelfield 3, I liked Vanquish, I liked Section 8, etc., etc., etc.....Dust though...I'm just not quite getting.
Glad it only cost me $20 to find out!
Well, don't just use the Starter Fit (Frontline Assault) for starters. Since it appears you bought the Merc pack you should have some AUR that will let you buy some basic Militia BPO's which are basically permenant items that don't deplete. They usually cost 30-50 AUR each and last forever. You can also buy these with a very small amount of ISK it's just easier if you don't have to worry about restocking your equipment between rounds.
You should also focus on upgrading your dropsuit from Militia to Type II which will give you more module slots along with CPU and PG so you can fit more equipment and improve both your lethality and servivability. Right now the limiting factor is most likely your dropsuit if it is the Militia version.
You'll want to dump that Militia AR rifle for at least the standard AR rifle as well which will give you the same bullet dmg but more rounds per clip.
If you had been more consistent in your play you should have participated in a couple recent events which would have given you free BPO dropsuits and a BPO basic AR rifle which could have made my above suggestions much easier to obtain. Otherwise you'll just need to play enough rounds to get the ISK and SP you need to get the required skills to utilize better weapons and dropsuits.
The only other advice I'll give you is that your better off staying close to your squad or at least members of you team. Going 1 on 1 with basic equipment is tough and darn near impossible if your facing more than 1 enemy at once. You should live longer and maybe get a few kills if you have the numerical advantage on your side.
If you already knew all of this...sorry. Good luck and hang in there. |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:31:00 -
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I'll keep this short and sweet. Game is grind-to-win, not pay-to-win. (although truth be told, with the most recent changes, a GOOD new player, can hold their own)
Skill points matter. Spend your first few hundred thousand skill points on leveling up your mechanics skill (armor) and weapon skill (weapon damage) |
Gaff Origami
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:34:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote: Well...I would honestly much rather it be about SP than money. I can't stand 'Pay-To-Win' games.
So it is about SP...it's just that using AUR (ie. money) let's you gain SP faster and/or use better equipment you haven't yet earned the SP (ie. skills) to use regularly.
All else being equal the person with AUR will improve their characters traits quicker and have a slight advantage with equipment on the battlefield but how often is all equal? |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:37:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:
The tiny bit of 'Help' files I've read told me that I should retreat against enemy players who outmatch me...EVERYONE seems to outmatch me! I spawn in, shoot, get shot, die....that's about the full explanation of my game time in Dust. I know there must be more to it than that.
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Qft. That made me lol. Fanboys will tell you that retreating and getting a team/corp together is the way to go but here's the thing... All matches include an even number of people, if one person has a vehicle or suit that REQUIRES more than one person to bring it down, than the match is already lost bc the other team has already won from a numbers perspective. So now the option is to deploy as many tanks as possible. Those with more tanks now win the game and all other infantry weapons are now totally pointless. In summary: buy Xp boosters, play non stop, join a corp with like minded grinders, and buy Aur based tanks for easy deployment and attainability. Congratulations you have just learned how to succeed to TANKS514....errr I mean DUST514 |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:52:00 -
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so many bittervets, "die inside like us but continue to play a game we claim to hate"
Its hard to give you advice because everyone has a different approach, my approach has been to upgrade tanking skills like Mechanics, shield management and fitting skills like electronics, engineering, light weapon upgrades ect.
But good tools can't make up for a lack of knowledge, you need to think about how you are playing and whats going wrong, do you run along paths directly to an objective or do you curve around keeping cover available?
Do you aim down your scope to shoot people or spray with your cross hairs?
ect ect you could probably google "how can i be better at FPS games" and find a lot of handy theory. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:59:00 -
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I got a tip go play (insert any other fps here) and you'll have instant fun instead of frustration you meet in dust.
To do well you have to invest large amounts of time
Gear --------------------------------> skill
And those that say different are just kidding themselves |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:03:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:Major Assitch wrote:
The tiny bit of 'Help' files I've read told me that I should retreat against enemy players who outmatch me...EVERYONE seems to outmatch me! I spawn in, shoot, get shot, die....that's about the full explanation of my game time in Dust. I know there must be more to it than that.
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Qft. That made me lol. Fanboys will tell you that retreating and getting a team/corp together is the way to go but here's the thing... All matches include an even number of people, if one person has a vehicle or suit that REQUIRES more than one person to bring it down, than the match is already lost bc the other team has already won from a numbers perspective. So now the option is to deploy as many tanks as possible. Those with more tanks now win the game and all other infantry weapons are now totally pointless. In summary: buy Xp boosters, play non stop, join a corp with like minded grinders, and buy Aur based tanks for easy deployment and attainability. Congratulations you have just learned how to succeed to TANKS514....errr I mean DUST514
In my experience this is not true at all. while it is sadly the fact that right now if you join a battle and your up against a semi-decent corp it will be very difficult. This will settle down once all the corps move to low/null sec.
Tanks dont hack objectives infantry do. Also even if one person has a highly powered suit and it takes a couple of ppl to bring him/her down all the better because you should be using teamwork anyway...no room for rambos in this jungle
I have never bought anything win real money and manage just fine. Although being into BF3 gives a slight advantage I think.
But even if you are right look at any real world battle he with the most tanks wins most of the time anyway. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:07:00 -
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my .02 is Damage > "Health"
so skill up Weaponry and your main weapon (AR, SMG, etc.) and add a damage mod so you're dealing as much damage as possible. Then work up your armor and shield and recharge rates.
Aside from your own gear and set up --- find a group/buddy and stick with them as much as possible. Also, be sure to be on mic! |
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Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:09:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:so many bittervets, "die inside like us but continue to play a game we claim to hate"
Its hard to give you advice because everyone has a different approach, my approach has been to upgrade tanking skills like Mechanics, shield management and fitting skills like electronics, engineering, light weapon upgrades ect.
But good tools can't make up for a lack of knowledge, you need to think about how you are playing and whats going wrong, do you run along paths directly to an objective or do you curve around keeping cover available?
Do you aim down your scope to shoot people or spray with your cross hairs?
ect ect you could probably google "how can i be better at FPS games" and find a lot of handy theory. I'm actually very good at FPS games. I'm quite experienced at them and do very well. However, this is not a FPS like any I've ever played before. Can't tell whenn I'm being shot, not much indicator of how much damage I'm doing to an enemy I'm shooting, Seems like 2 bullets kill me but 2 full clips don't do any damage to enemies...etc., etc.
And no...spraying bullets is not my MO. In fact, down-sight aiming is something I do as a reflex, it's something I do so often it becomes a fault at times. If you're looking for a decent FPS player for your squad/team/clan/etc. you could do a lot worse than recruiting me. The problem here isn't FPS skills, it's the uneven matching of weapons/armor/etc.
LOL...a 'Google search of how to play FPS' is quite comical...maybe someone with quite a bit less experience with such things could benefit...I probably have well over 10,000 hours experience at FPS games. I have plenty of knowledge about FPS games and I've played nearly every one of them available on both PS3 and PC for hundreds (1,000s in some cases) of hours. I have nearly 2,000 hours into my favorite one alone. Believe me, knowledge of how to play FPS games is not the problem with DUST for me....I'm definitely steering more toward the equipment side of things at this point.
EDIT:
BTW...I know exactly what I'm doing wrong! I'm dying too easily!
I'll go toe to toe with anyone in any straight up gunfight on any FPS on the market. When I'm dying in a 1 on 1 duel against a guy who can kill me with 2 bullets but who isn't harmed by 2 clips of my bullets...well...let's just say that this is something new to me, and will take some time adjusting. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:10:00 -
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I suggest you join a corp/clan. It's the best bet if you're looking for people to help you out, and play with you. |
Luther Mandrix
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:14:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:I've been trying for months to get into this game. I'll play a few days and then get irritated and hang it up for a month or so and then try again. I'm just not quite understanding it for some reason. I mean, I get the basic gist of it's purpose and storyline, I just don't quite get the game-play.
Looks like it's rapidly evolving into a 'Pay-To-Win' kinda game...am I wrong?
The tiny bit of 'Help' files I've read told me that I should retreat against enemy players who outmatch me...EVERYONE seems to outmatch me! I spawn in, shoot, get shot, die....that's about the full explanation of my game time in Dust. I know there must be more to it than that.
I see it's quite a complex program and there's a whole lot of intricacies and dynamics to the game and I'll get all of that eventually. Right now I would like to just know how to last longer than 3 seconds before dying. If I could just stay alive long enough to get some kills or accomplish some kind of objectives I might find some interest in this game. Right now though it's just frustrating, irritating and boring.
Anyone have any tips? Is it possible to be an effective player without buying a bunch of crap in the marketplace?
First Tip Join a Corp ,get a mic ,UVT,Aurum get all Aur BPO's Squad up with that corp and play as a team. I believe your Corp is a default NPC Corp generated by the game. |
Luther Mandrix
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:19:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:so many bittervets, "die inside like us but continue to play a game we claim to hate"
Its hard to give you advice because everyone has a different approach, my approach has been to upgrade tanking skills like Mechanics, shield management and fitting skills like electronics, engineering, light weapon upgrades ect.
But good tools can't make up for a lack of knowledge, you need to think about how you are playing and whats going wrong, do you run along paths directly to an objective or do you curve around keeping cover available?
Do you aim down your scope to shoot people or spray with your cross hairs?
ect ect you could probably google "how can i be better at FPS games" and find a lot of handy theory. I'm actually very good at FPS games. I'm quite experienced at them and do very well. However, this is not a FPS like any I've ever played before. Can't tell whenn I'm being shot, not much indicator of how much damage I'm doing to an enemy I'm shooting, Seems like 2 bullets kill me but 2 full clips don't do any damage to enemies...etc., etc. And no...spraying bullets is not my MO. In fact, down-sight aiming is something I do as a reflex, it's something I do so often it becomes a fault at times. If you're looking for a decent FPS player for your squad/team/clan/etc. you could do a lot worse than recruiting me. The problem here isn't FPS skills, it's the uneven matching of weapons/armor/etc. LOL...a 'Google search of how to play FPS' is quite comical...maybe someone with quite a bit less experience with such things could benefit...I probably have well over 10,000 hours experience at FPS games. I have plenty of knowledge about FPS games and I've played nearly every one of them available on both PS3 and PC for hundreds (1,000s in some cases) of hours. I have nearly 2,000 hours into my favorite one alone. Believe me, knowledge of how to play FPS games is not the problem with DUST for me....I'm definitely steering more toward the equipment side of things at this point. EDIT: BTW...I know exactly what I'm doing wrong! I'm dying too easily! I'll go toe to toe with anyone in any straight up gunfight on any FPS on the market. When I'm dying in a 1 on 1 duel against a guy who can kill me with 2 bullets but who isn't harmed by 2 clips of my bullets...well...let's just say that this is something new to me, and will take some time adjusting. We Skill up to make our weapons more deadly and we skill up to be able to use dropsuits that protect and be able to equip more damage mod that make it easier to kill.You can do the same. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:34:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:so many bittervets, "die inside like us but continue to play a game we claim to hate"
Its hard to give you advice because everyone has a different approach, my approach has been to upgrade tanking skills like Mechanics, shield management and fitting skills like electronics, engineering, light weapon upgrades ect.
But good tools can't make up for a lack of knowledge, you need to think about how you are playing and whats going wrong, do you run along paths directly to an objective or do you curve around keeping cover available?
Do you aim down your scope to shoot people or spray with your cross hairs?
ect ect you could probably google "how can i be better at FPS games" and find a lot of handy theory. I'm actually very good at FPS games. I'm quite experienced at them and do very well. However, this is not a FPS like any I've ever played before. Can't tell whenn I'm being shot, not much indicator of how much damage I'm doing to an enemy I'm shooting, Seems like 2 bullets kill me but 2 full clips don't do any damage to enemies...etc., etc. And no...spraying bullets is not my MO. In fact, down-sight aiming is something I do as a reflex, it's something I do so often it becomes a fault at times. If you're looking for a decent FPS player for your squad/team/clan/etc. you could do a lot worse than recruiting me. The problem here isn't FPS skills, it's the uneven matching of weapons/armor/etc. LOL...a 'Google search of how to play FPS' is quite comical...maybe someone with quite a bit less experience with such things could benefit...I probably have well over 10,000 hours experience at FPS games. I have plenty of knowledge about FPS games and I've played nearly every one of them available on both PS3 and PC for hundreds (1,000s in some cases) of hours. I have nearly 2,000 hours into my favorite one alone. Believe me, knowledge of how to play FPS games is not the problem with DUST for me....I'm definitely steering more toward the equipment side of things at this point. EDIT: BTW...I know exactly what I'm doing wrong! I'm dying too easily! I'll go toe to toe with anyone in any straight up gunfight on any FPS on the market. When I'm dying in a 1 on 1 duel against a guy who can kill me with 2 bullets but who isn't harmed by 2 clips of my bullets...well...let's just say that this is something new to me, and will take some time adjusting. We Skill up to make our weapons more deadly and we skill up to be able to use dropsuits that protect and be able to equip more damage mod that make it easier to kill.You can do the same.
Ya man!
This is the knowledge I have been lacking! Just visited the marketplace for the first time and I see what it's all about now. I thought it was a store to buy pretty **** for my suit and other non-sensical crap to waste my cash on. Suddenly the multi-faceted dynamics of the game are clear to me. This is the first time I really took time to try and understand why there's so much unbalance between my gear and other's.
Thanks to all for the advice and info you've provided. I have a feeling it's going to be a whole new ball game for me from now on.
Now I just need to figure out how everything works together and it's on!
See you all on the battlefield
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
809
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:37:00 -
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Many of us spend the majority of our time in the cheap suits and do just fine. The thing FPSers have to adjust to with Dust is to slow WAY DOWN, and work more methodically with a squad. If your squad isn't on comms, and you don't have a good balanced group with logi,uplinks, range, CQC, working in tandem, then yeah... you're gonna die a lot.
So, do like 95% of the people who post here and do well do, put your squad together before you go into battle. Then make a basic plan, and do your best to execute it.
As far as guys in prototype gear, call them out for your squad and focus fire. If they die, they lose hundreds of thousands of ISK, if you die you lose basically nothing. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:38:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Major Assitch wrote:I've been trying for months to get into this game. I'll play a few days and then get irritated and hang it up for a month or so and then try again. I'm just not quite understanding it for some reason. I mean, I get the basic gist of it's purpose and storyline, I just don't quite get the game-play.
Looks like it's rapidly evolving into a 'Pay-To-Win' kinda game...am I wrong?
The tiny bit of 'Help' files I've read told me that I should retreat against enemy players who outmatch me...EVERYONE seems to outmatch me! I spawn in, shoot, get shot, die....that's about the full explanation of my game time in Dust. I know there must be more to it than that.
I see it's quite a complex program and there's a whole lot of intricacies and dynamics to the game and I'll get all of that eventually. Right now I would like to just know how to last longer than 3 seconds before dying. If I could just stay alive long enough to get some kills or accomplish some kind of objectives I might find some interest in this game. Right now though it's just frustrating, irritating and boring.
Anyone have any tips? Is it possible to be an effective player without buying a bunch of crap in the marketplace? First Tip Join a Corp ,get a mic ,UVT,Aurum get all Aur BPO's Squad up with that corp and play as a team. I believe your Corp is a default NPC Corp generated by the game.
Yep....this is next on my list of things to do. Already very familiar with team playing and it's the way I prefer to play my games. I've also had a headset as long as I've had my PS3...can't stand playing without it.
Like I said in the last post...now that I see the light, it's on like Donkey Kong! I've just been missing that one piece of info...didn't know that all the gear could be improved upon and strengthened.
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Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:41:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Many of us spend the majority of our time in the cheap suits and do just fine. The thing FPSers have to adjust to with Dust is to slow WAY DOWN, and work more methodically with a squad. If your squad isn't on comms, and you don't have a good balanced group with logi,uplinks, range, CQC, working in tandem, then yeah... you're gonna die a lot.
So, do like 95% of the people who post here and do well do, put your squad together before you go into battle. Then make a basic plan, and do your best to execute it.
As far as guys in prototype gear, call them out for your squad and focus fire. If they die, they lose hundreds of thousands of ISK, if you die you lose basically nothing.
Ah, thanks!
Gonna spend the next couple days getting to know some peeps in the game....find a decent group of folks to hang with. No one I know from previous games (clan mates, etc.) are playing this game, so it's going to take some socializing on my part....no prob! |
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Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:43:00 -
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I have been spending all my so on the Heavy suit and mechanics I seem to last a few seconds longer than I did in the beginning. I have even gotten a few kills with the hmg but it takes over a hundred bullets to kill anyone but I suppose I miss most of my shots. But still this hmg should be able to kill someone without using half the magazine. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:45:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:so many bittervets, "die inside like us but continue to play a game we claim to hate"
Its hard to give you advice because everyone has a different approach, my approach has been to upgrade tanking skills like Mechanics, shield management and fitting skills like electronics, engineering, light weapon upgrades ect.
But good tools can't make up for a lack of knowledge, you need to think about how you are playing and whats going wrong, do you run along paths directly to an objective or do you curve around keeping cover available?
Do you aim down your scope to shoot people or spray with your cross hairs?
ect ect you could probably google "how can i be better at FPS games" and find a lot of handy theory. I'm actually very good at FPS games. I'm quite experienced at them and do very well. However, this is not a FPS like any I've ever played before. Can't tell whenn I'm being shot, not much indicator of how much damage I'm doing to an enemy I'm shooting, Seems like 2 bullets kill me but 2 full clips don't do any damage to enemies...etc., etc. And no...spraying bullets is not my MO. In fact, down-sight aiming is something I do as a reflex, it's something I do so often it becomes a fault at times. If you're looking for a decent FPS player for your squad/team/clan/etc. you could do a lot worse than recruiting me. The problem here isn't FPS skills, it's the uneven matching of weapons/armor/etc. LOL...a 'Google search of how to play FPS' is quite comical...maybe someone with quite a bit less experience with such things could benefit...I probably have well over 10,000 hours experience at FPS games. I have plenty of knowledge about FPS games and I've played nearly every one of them available on both PS3 and PC for hundreds (1,000s in some cases) of hours. I have nearly 2,000 hours into my favorite one alone. Believe me, knowledge of how to play FPS games is not the problem with DUST for me....I'm definitely steering more toward the equipment side of things at this point. EDIT: BTW...I know exactly what I'm doing wrong! I'm dying too easily! I'll go toe to toe with anyone in any straight up gunfight on any FPS on the market. When I'm dying in a 1 on 1 duel against a guy who can kill me with 2 bullets but who isn't harmed by 2 clips of my bullets...well...let's just say that this is something new to me, and will take some time adjusting. We Skill up to make our weapons more deadly and we skill up to be able to use dropsuits that protect and be able to equip more damage mod that make it easier to kill.You can do the same.
In other words dust is now the wow of fps's
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