DUST Search - Considering Logi suits next build....

Sentient Archon wrote:

For starters, this is a beta and you are supposed to test everything. Secondly I chose the Amarrs because the alliance I roll with are primarily Caldari and will be supporting the Amarr. Thirdly chosing the Amarr class instantly gives you weaponry level 3 which I like when I start rolling.

Next;- mixed mode is the way to go. If you are saying you are 100% Logi, you are essentially restricting yourself. I like being mixed mode because you never know what weapon I can pull out to kill your dumba$$.

If you are using the best armor plates, which gives you a HP bonus of 117 but has a movement penalty of 10%, it reduces your top sprintiing from 6.61 to 5.98. Thats almost as close as a heavy type 2. You may as well go heavy then. I guess you knew that too. Why would you want to do that when for the same CPU and PG you can put a proto hacking mod that gives you a hacking bonus of 30%. 30% hacking bonus + 15% Logi bonus + 25% increase in hacking time = 70% hacking time. Which makes more sense, being a slow fat ass heavy or being a fast hacker.

My Type A with 3 complex shield extenders, A basic armor repair, a cardiac stimulator, hacking mod, remote explosive, nanite injector and a repair too with a M209 sub mach costs me 40000 Isk. Most games I go 20 + kills and 2-3 deaths and I get 250K ISK to 360K ISK per game. Which makes more sense?

RE = Easy kills
Nanohives is a waste as almost everyone but heavies have them.

You can try this clowns loadout and be mediocre or try mine and run with the big boys. Your choice. In the end DILLIAF! Bear


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Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.12.26 18:33:00 - [1] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Tyler Hall wrote: Enji Elric wrote: 600 hp armor or shield or 600 accumulative? i'll look in the morning, going to bed but it think it's close to 219 shield 365 armor give or take a few. with repair gun, nanohive, and nanite injector. or uplink, nanohive, nanite injector Dont listen to him. Armor just slows you down. A logi is always constantly moving. You dont want to be slowed down. I have 345 shields and 174 armor on my A series. Just put an armor repair or a cardiac stimulant or a speed enhancer or a hacking mod. Forget the nanohives. Nanite injectors, repairs tools and remote explosives are the way to go. Proximity mines if you have the proto suit. Carry a support weapon such as a laser or MD or sub mach for CQC. I have to disagree with this. A single armor plate will slow you down A LITTLE but you aren't going to be outrunning anyone but heavies anyways, so it won't make a difference. Don't forget nanohives, they are a great tool, both for yourself and your team-mates. Completely forgo any proximity mines and/or remote explosives, they haven't been useful since the nerf. You can play with an AR, just because people label you as support doesn't mean you have to listen to them. I run this: Logistics type 1 High slots -Militia shield extender -Militia shield extender Low slots -Basic armor plates -Militia armor repper Weapons -Assault Rifle -Militia Locus grenade Equipment Slots -Gauged Nanohive -Triage Repair Tool -Militia Nanite Injector And I usually end up as one of the top three killers on my team, but with more WP than the other best killers, since I was also repping/reviving/resupplying.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.12.26 20:21:00 - [2] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Logi Bro wrote: I have to disagree with this. A single armor plate will slow you down A LITTLE but you aren't going to be outrunning anyone but heavies anyways, so it won't make a difference. Don't forget nanohives, they are a great tool, both for yourself and your team-mates. Completely forgo any proximity mines and/or remote explosives, they haven't been useful since the nerf. You can play with an AR, just because people label you as support doesn't mean you have to listen to them. I run this: Dont listen to him either. He is one of the worst logi bros I have seeb. He is telling you to run militia mods.You will be weapon fodder even before you know it. Almost every assault guy carries a nanohive. It doesnt make sense in carry more nanohives unless they are armor repair. But thats why you have rep tools. More WP. Your slots with me more usefull carrying rep tools , nanite injectors and remote explosives or proximity mines. Remote explosives are very useful. My own alliance watches out for my remote explosives when I play against them. You also need to have survivability. Remember you are useful only if you are are to kill the guy that killed your squadmate and revive them. The more agile you are the better your chances are. Most basic modules cost betwee 1000 - 4000 ISK. That is not much ISK with the kind of rewards you would get end game. Also militia mods cost more PG and/or CPU than basic mods. Aim high. Dont be mediocre like Mr Logi Bro out here. lol. It's funny because I've never even heard of you, so you obviously aren't a foremost authority on logistics anymore than I am, and since your symbol on the forums is that of a heavy, I can safely assume you don't play 100% as logistics, either. This guy is telling you to not use armor plates, THAT is going to make you weapon fodder, not using militia mods. You can even substitute in the standard version of my militia mods if it really bugs you that much. I run militia to save money, and it works considering that fit I posted costs less than 20k ISK (but keep in mind I am using the BPO standard dropsuit, so I am not charged for that) Remote explosives are the biggest waste of an equipment slot, unless you are planning to camp next to one of the skirmish objectives to detonate when someone comes near. Nanohives are THE most useful piece of equipment, I don't care if you can revive a team-mate and then repair them to full, if they don't have ammo, you just brought that guy back to die again. The logistics suit has the most PG and CPU of any suit, and the fit I gave you didn't even use up half of my CPU or my PG, so the "militia modules use up more PG/CPU so they are bad" argument is irrelevant. Basically I am saying don't take advice from a heavy on how to play as a logi, even if you don't like my advice, avoid his at all costs.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.12.26 21:10:00 - [3] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: For starters, this is a beta and you are supposed to test everything. Secondly I chose the Amarrs because the alliance I roll with are primarily Caldari and will be supporting the Amarr. Thirdly chosing the Amarr class instantly gives you weaponry level 3 which I like when I start rolling. Next;- mixed mode is the way to go. If you are saying you are 100% Logi, you are essentially restricting yourself. I like being mixed mode because you never know what weapon I can pull out to kill your dumba$$. If you are using the best armor plates, which gives you a HP bonus of 117 but has a movement penalty of 10%, it reduces your top sprintiing from 6.61 to 5.98. Thats almost as close as a heavy type 2. You may as well go heavy then. I guess you knew that too. Why would you want to do that when for the same CPU and PG you can put a proto hacking mod that gives you a hacking bonus of 30%. 30% hacking bonus + 15% Logi bonus + 25% increase in hacking time = 70% hacking time. Which makes more sense, being a slow fat ass heavy or being a fast hacker. My Type A with 3 complex shield extenders, A basic armor repair, a cardiac stimulator, hacking mod, remote explosive, nanite injector and a repair too with a M209 sub mach costs me 40000 Isk. Most games I go 20 + kills and 2-3 deaths and I get 250K ISK to 360K ISK per game. Which makes more sense? RE = Easy kills Nanohives is a waste as almost everyone but heavies have them. You can try this clowns loadout and be mediocre or try mine and run with the big boys. Your choice. In the end DILLIAF! These forum trolls, always making things difficult. "For starters, this is a beta and you are supposed to test everything." This is correct, except the correct pronoun would be "WE are supposed to test everything." So basically, I will run as logistics and find all problems related to this suit, and you can go over there and use the heavy suit find find all of it's problems. Trying to test everything at once will result in poor reports, whereas since I have done nothing since play logistics, my report will be 100x more specific and detailed. Also, I am specializing, so if you come at me with your logistics suit while I am using mine, I will win since I have done nothing but improve on my suit, and you have attempted to do everything at once. "Next, mixed mode is the way to go, if you are saying you are 100% logi, you are essentially restricting yourself." I believe if you look up, you will see I already answered this. I am specializing, not restricting. Speaking of your armor plates, if you had bothered to read my posts instead of blindly trolling, you would see my loadout used basic armor plates, a 3% penalty to movement, which IS barely noticeable. If you want to use hacking mods instead, go ahead, I never said anything about them being bad, you just seemed to think I did. Remote explosives= I have never been killed with an RE since the nerf to them, and I previously got killed at least once per match by them, do the math, they aren't that great anymore. I took a look at the marketplace, and here's what I found.(Keep in mind I am rounding out the hundreds place) -Logistics Type A Series= 17,000 -Complex Shield Extender= 7,000(x3)=21,000 -Basic Armor Repair Module= 3,000 (You didn't specify what type of hacking mod or cardiac stimulator you used, so I assumed they were standard, I also assumed your equipment was standard) -Basic Codebreaker= 2,000 -Cardiac Stimulator=2,000 -Remote Explosive=4,000 -Nanite Injector=3,000 -Repair Tool=3,000 -M209 SMG=17,000 Added together that's....72,000 ISK, just a little more than you said, and my fit that costs exactly (and I recently changed my militia shield extenders to enhanced extenders) 28,000 ISK and I get about 15+ kills per game, and about 2 deaths, 250,000+ ISK per game, so you have argued your point against me for really no reason at all. Good day, sirrah.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.12.27 23:45:00 - [4] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Added together that's....72,000 ISK, just a little more than you said, and my fit that costs exactly (and I recently changed my militia shield extenders to enhanced extenders) 28,000 ISK and I get about 15+ kills per game, and about 2 deaths, 250,000+ ISK per game, so you have argued your point against me for really no reason at all. Good day, sirrah. Saw you running around with you gay suit last night and killed you. Not very useful when you are dead huh? Did you really come here to brag about that? ACTUALLY, I do remember that game, I seem to remember ending with a 19/2 K/DR and 2100 WP, and you ending with 9/2 with about 900 WP, so please keep digging yourself farther into a hole, first you make up bullsh*t numbers to make your fit seem better, then you ignore legitimate numbers to make yourself seem better, I am seeing a pattern here.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.12.27 23:52:00 - [5] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: dent 308 wrote: Skill trump mods imo +10000000000000 It's too bad you don't have any skill, how does it feel to say you're better than me on the forums, then not even get half the score of me in-game, and then come brag here on the forum that you killed me once?