I would suggest that those who play the game enough to get to their cap that quickly make another character. We do get 3 slots.

This way you can level up more than one character at a time, and then when you go into battles you have a pick of two specialized characters, each good for their own situation.
Say you know your corp is missing a vehicle guy, or sniper, and that is what your second character is specced for.

For those of us who dont have the time we can still level up one character just fine.

The problem with your example is i made way over 71ksp on Wed so if 500k was divided by 7 no way i could have gained that much SP in one day I've been making only double digit's today never even broke a 100sp per match

sorry if you people have RL **** but some us arent 30-40 years olds. If people want to play everyday then they should be able to get as much sp as they desire. The way the cap works now is a fail becuz us "GOOD" players reach 0 sp by day two and all desire to play fades as day 4 approaches. Also if one were to miss a week of sp for what ever reason, thats sp forever gone. There should be some sort of daily cap to keep us motivated while playing multiple days, or keep the weekly cap and add a base minimal gain to 1-2k sp. Allow the players who missed a week to catch up to the global sp cap, that way everyone in the world will have a way to catch up to the max sp cap.

last wed i made 300-400k in one day after the reset

lol why do You people always think some is getting mad? hard to tell over text. You may not what it to take more than 2 days, but we dont want the game to die early. people play games to achieve something, in dust, you lose that level of achieving something when there is no sp to gain. YOU make the assumption that i have no RL. Im fine, my life is straight, i passed all my college classes, my gf thinks im awesome for being 4th in the world in dust. she wants me to train her but i told her she needs to get good. all of us are here because we have a gaming addiction, you applied to play a game thats not even close to being released, your addicted.

The only real advantage to a daily cap is that players will keep playing consistently throughout the week. The weekly cap's downfall is that some players only play the first few days after the cap reset, and then everything is dead until the following Wednesday.

As the week progresses, I notice less and less corp activity, which sucks. Usually Sunday night, Monday night, and Tuesday night is a ghost-town. But I do agree with the OP about the daily cap's limitations, and it would be a punishment to the players that don't play the game everyday 24/7.

I don't mind the weekly cap for myself, as it's actually pretty rare I hit the cap, cause I only play a few hours a night and that is only a handful of matches. But it gives me the option to play as little or much as I want without falling too far behind.

Perhaps a daily-cap solution could be rollover-SP if you didn't earn it the previous day. So say you missed 3 days, just multiply the 3 days worth of caps and that will be the new limit. And anything not obtained, would rollover to the next daily cap. Then every week on Wednesday it would all reset again.

I continue to play because I like killing people on the internetz.

Surely a better matchmaking system would fix this problem? (Some people wanting to play everyday, some who can't.)

playerbase is not big enough to break into groups

You guys know this system is temporary right? It's so the skill levels of players doesnt get too uneven. Its not gonna change untill release or open beta so it's pointless to talk about

If you care about a subject like this heta you should avoid talking about it, not sure what it is but whenever you talk I find my self wanting to do/think the complete opposite, even if I agree with you, doubt I'm the only one.

your life choices are your own problem don't see what that has to do with any thing weekly is just the same thing. my ps3 broke so no play for me for a week so how do you cache up simple you don't . thats the hole problem with a cap but it's what you i have a life people want i would have no cap then some one who picks the game up l8 can cache up in time but NO!! say the i have a life and a job and kids and i am a member of the local bowling club. so it's ok for true gamers to have to wate on you a$$es fine

hmm merry xmas i hope you brake both your arms and can't play for 6 weeks. then you can tell me how good the cap is

1. Full time job
2. Friends after work.
3. Eat after friends.
4. Im a clean person, never have to clean much around the house.
5. Sleep 4 hours a day.
6. Still have time to play a good 4-6 hours daily.

Im not seeing any issue with a daily cap. All it does is compensate for stragglers. They are losing players do to the weekly cap. Most players prefer to be rewarded for their effort and losses.

If not then its like playing COD with everything unlocked from the start. Yes you'll have fun initially but after 1hour youve seen everything and want to get more. With a weekly cap you've reached it then youre stuck at 100 until a reset a week later, meaning doing the same thing every battle.

An MMO should not be repetitive. They want it to take seven years thats fine, raise the skill points required for learning said skills. If you want people to continue playing then they need things to do. Just battling for isk to buy the same fits 300 times until wednesday is irritating.

I am the same, and tbh for people like us a daily cap would be better. 2 hours at high SP every day would be great.

We will always be behind players who cap out every time, it actually doesn't matter. Experience in mmos has shown that those that play too hard at the start tend to burn out and its the plodders who win out in the end. mmo is a long game.

It really doesn't matter if we miss the odd day or week or even month. (I am talking about when we go live not now in beta when of course none of it matters at all)

Why does it matter f the cap is weekly or daily? As Vane Arcadia new players will always have less SP than dedicated players who started playing before them (unless the dedicated player takes a massive break for some reason.)

For instance, let's say that I'd only just started. I've got the SP that I start with. Now, even if I play to my cap every time, I'll never catch up with players like G-SLicK (just using him as an example as he's been in the thread, no offence intended) as he is also playing to the cap but he's also however million SP ahead of me to begin with. So we're still progressing at the same rate. Yes, I'll be getting new skills quicker as the lower ranked ones are cheaper, but in order to be able to really compete with him, I'll need to get one of my weapons skill maxed out and one of my suit skills too.

If CCP want new players to be able to 'catch up' with older players, they need to make an overall life time cap that goes up each day. So that newer players are ale to earn as much SP as they can play for, while longer standing players with higher SP will still be ale to earn more each day.

That's IF CCP wants new players to be able to catch up. It may be that they implement a matchmaking scheme that means that they don't have to.

I don't know what the intention behind the SP cap is. I assume that it's to stop the players with the time and the inclination to ply more from completely dominating the games while we are in this much smaller beta test community.

So what you are saying is people running the gear they trained up for and winning in it is unfair and when they reach their cap for the week they should stop playing or run militia so mediocre players like yourself get to win?

rofl hello kitty island misses you dude, you need to return to games where everyone is a WINNER!

looking forward to your next re-tarded caps laden post.

No its played on multiple servers around the world, so far to my knowledge there is US, EU, Asia and Australian servers.

What you are saying is stupid, although I applaud any effort pro players go to, to ensure a more fun experience for new players, but to expect it as a matter of course is naive and silly, match maker will take care of this in the future.

And as for owning lame phucks like me?

Hecatonchires Gyges
Rank: 736
Kills: 2534
KDR: 2.35
W/L: 1.44

Yes you are a total pro who absolutely pwns people, you can keep your delusions if I could queue on your servers more then once in a blue moon i'd give you a larger sample size to base your opinion on.

why does that cheapen the other players achievement? If you've been playing to your cap, and earning your 500k SP a week since the game began, and, let's say that you earn, on average 1000sp per game (I've no idea how much you generally earn, this is just a figure for the example.) then each week, you've played 500 games. So, after 2 years you've earned 52,000,000 SP. if a new player starts during this time, and can play 52,000 games, in less time, why shouldn't ey end up with the same sp? They've played the same number of games that were earning SP. how does that cheapen your efforts? If you've chosen to play games that didn't earn you sp, that you enjoyed and earned ISK for, should that mean that a new player can't catch up?

So you think that their SP should be worth less than yours?
I'm afraid I disagree entirely.
Even now, it's entirely possible to check what skills are like with other players who've already bought them, I mean, I've got an alt that I specifically use to try out skills before buying them for my main character.
Okay, so once the game goes live, there'll be no way to get back SP spent on skills you don't like, but as Beta testers, we'll have already played and tried things out, so when the game starts and we lose all our characters, we'll all be able to plan our characters, so why should a player who comes along later get penalised for doing the same thing?

That's not true in the slightest. I mean, eve online is 9 years old, assuming that the intention is for dust to last as long, then there will be a large number of new 'hardcore' gamers available to play it who aren't interested right now.also not true. What about a 'hardcore' gamer who started after the players who are already running proto gear?The boosters you appear to be fixated on are nothing to do with it.
As I understand it, once you reach your weekly SP cap, however you've earns the SP, your SP gain is reduced for the week.
A 'hardcore' player, who starts playing now because they got their PS3 for Christmas will never be able to catch up to someone like G-SLicK, even if they play more and use constant active and passive boosters because both the old and the new players have the same limits on how much SP they can earn per week.

Before being able to properly make suggestions to CCP as to how they can achieve heir aim, we need to know what their aim is.

So, if two players ( lets call them player A & player B) both start new characters at the same point and player A plays 500 games each earning him 1000 sp during a week, and player B played the exact same games, earning the exact same score, but with the boosters active, they'd both have earned 500k sp. the only difference is that player B would have done it sooner and would have played a number of games after the cap was hit without earning sp.

In this situation, both players have invested the same time and effort, and both have had the same rewards. No-ones efforts are cheapened, no-ones been robbed. Why does time scale make it any different?

player B wouldn't earn 1 million sp because the cap is 500k a week.
He would hit the cap after 250 games, then the next 250 would only earn him ISK.

My point is;
Before being able to properly make suggestions to CCP as to how they can achieve heir aim, we need to know what their aim is.
I have stated no preference as to if we have a cap or not. What I want doesn't matter. What I want to know is what CCP wants, if they want new players to be able to catch up with old ones or not. Then we can try to work out how to achieve that.

I support a weekly cap on SP (whether 500k or 1 mil...whatever is determined best). I support this for previous reasons stated in this thread, namely that not everyone can play 23/7 and it would help even the playing field in the long run.

I support the use of boosters. CCP needs to make money and boosters are a good avenue in my opinion. Whether the booster raises a players cap (ex: 500k weekly cap is raised to 750k) or is the cap is still 500k but the player can reach the cap twice as fast).

I support not having a grind. Let a player earn what they earn (10 war points = 100 skill points or whatever the math turns out to be) and when they reach the cap, zero out the SP gain for the rest of the week. No one likes playing those final 20 matches for 14 SP each.

I support having a global SP minimum. By this I mean that at the end of every month, if a player who is not at a minimum level of SP will be allowed to play "cap-free" until they reach that minimum SP level. Once the reach that minimum, the cap will go back into affect. An example would be 500k per week times 4 weeks per month is 2mil. After the first month at launch, going into month two, a player who has less that 2mil can play cap free until they reach 2 mill. Going into the third month, a player can play cap free until they reach 4 mil. (*** the numbers can be adjusted but you get the premise [hopefully]***)