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Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:47:00 -
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The Caldari have had sniper rifle tech to themselves long enough, which is why I'm proposing a different kind of weapon(s).
The Gallente Sniper Rifle. Not a creative name, I know, and I don't like it, but I cannot think of much else.
The Blaster Rifle is a weapon very similar to the original Sniper Rifle, but it serves a different purpose. It's a short-range marksman rifle. Using advanced blaster charges that originate with the space-faring Null charge, it is far more accurate and has a much longer range than the usual blaster. It's perfectly accurate, just like the sniper rifle today, but after a certain distance the damage falls off and the plasma eventually dissipates. It has good range, but the farther you shoot it the less effect it has. It is still a powerful weapon, and makes an excellent marksman rifle for the front-line. It has a higher rate of fire than the railgun rifle, and produces less recoil, but is also slightly weaker overall (when you factor in long distance shots, that becomes even more apparent.). It is also shorter and lighter than the railgun rifle, giving it less sway, making firing while moving a viable, if questionable, tactic. These things make it superior while in direct combat, but overall less effective as a long-range weapon.
And the Minmatar Sniper Rifle.
The Rusty Rifle, as I will refer to it now, is a sniper rifle. It has a higher rate of fire than the Railgun Rifle, as well as larger clip size. It is somewhat weaker, and produces more recoil. It has a longer range than the Blaster Rifle, but its accuracy declines at longer ranges. It produces a large amount of sway, and the recoil makes it even worse while standing up. It is designed as a mid-range battle/marksman rifle that can lay down fire on enemies at all ranges. It's accuracy may decrease at long range, but it's overall range is good enough that firing at a crowd can be devastatingly effective even at distances too great for standard sniper duty. It is not a weapon to be fired lightly, and it is best to find a fortified position to fight from, which also differentiates it from the Blaster Rifle.
The Caldari Sniper would generally be superior at long-ranges, as well as against other snipers, and as such would act like a "true sniper" and less like a designated marksman.
To conclude:
Gallente Sniper Rifle - Short to mid-range marksman rifle designed for closer combat than a normal sniper rifle.
Minmatar Sniper Rifle - mid to long-range heavy sniper rifle, designed for heavy assault against large targets.
Caldari Sniper Rifle - Long-range sniper rifle, superior at long-range and counter-sniper operations. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:26:00 -
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They haven't got all the weapons in the beta yet. So, you're a bit behind them in all actuality. Eventually they'll get the rest added in. |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:32:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:They haven't got all the weapons in the beta yet. Thanks for the information, Capt. Ob Vious. I will take this into consideration.
Thing is, I don't think CCP is planning making variations for all weapons. For example, Laser Rifles and Mass Drivers. I doubt CCP is going to make any racial variations of those. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:38:00 -
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Well, no....they won't because they already are racial variations. Amarr use lasers and is the light weapon that matches the ARs which are Caldari. Gallente will get some kind of rail gun that is similar to the ARs or maybe it'll be a blaster rifle. Minmatar will most likely get a projectile weapon. The mass driver is Caldari and is their heavy weapon, the upcoming plasma cannon is Gallente, not sure what's in store for Minmatar since they haven't shown us it yet and Amarr will most likely get some huge heavy laser of some sort. As for sniper rifle variants, pretty much every race will have it's own variant of it. |
Vermaak Kuvakei
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:39:00 -
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Terrible representations of the respective races weaponry |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:41:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Well, no....they won't because they already are racial variations. Amarr use lasers and is the light weapon that matches the ARs which are Caldari. Gallente will get some kind of rail gun that is similar to the ARs or maybe it'll be a blaster rifle. Minmatar will most likely get a projectile weapon. The mass driver is Caldari and is their heavy weapon, the upcoming Plasma cannon is Gallente, not sure what's in store for Minmatar since they haven't shown us it yet and Amarr will most likely get some huge heavy laser of some sort. As for sniper rifle variants, pretty much every race will have it's own variant of it. You cannot know this. Further more, sniper rifles are exclusively referred to as railguns in-game. If CCP were planning on adding different varieties, they would have been less heavy on referring to sniper rifles in general as railguns. It might be worth noting that I've heard nothing from CCP about racial sniper rifles, and I'm sure no one else has, either.
And no, the mass driver is not Caldari. It's Minmatar. Caldari's heavy weapon is the Forge Gun. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:42:00 -
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Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Terrible representations of the respective races weaponry
Sansha will get forearm nano injectors to make people into True Slaves. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:42:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Well, no....they won't because they already are racial variations. Amarr use lasers and is the light weapon that matches the ARs which are Caldari. Gallente will get some kind of rail gun that is similar to the ARs or maybe it'll be a blaster rifle. Minmatar will most likely get a projectile weapon. The mass driver is Caldari and is their heavy weapon, the upcoming Plasma cannon is Gallente, not sure what's in store for Minmatar since they haven't shown us it yet and Amarr will most likely get some huge heavy laser of some sort. As for sniper rifle variants, pretty much every race will have it's own variant of it. You cannot know this. Further more, sniper rifles are exclusively referred to as railguns in-game. If CCP were planning on adding different varieties, they would have been less heavy on referring to sniper rifles in general as railguns. It might be worth noting that I've heard nothing from CCP about racial sniper rifles, and I'm sure no one else has, either.
CCP never puts everything out there. Ever. |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:44:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Well, no....they won't because they already are racial variations. Amarr use lasers and is the light weapon that matches the ARs which are Caldari. Gallente will get some kind of rail gun that is similar to the ARs or maybe it'll be a blaster rifle. Minmatar will most likely get a projectile weapon. The mass driver is Caldari and is their heavy weapon, the upcoming Plasma cannon is Gallente, not sure what's in store for Minmatar since they haven't shown us it yet and Amarr will most likely get some huge heavy laser of some sort. As for sniper rifle variants, pretty much every race will have it's own variant of it. You cannot know this. Further more, sniper rifles are exclusively referred to as railguns in-game. If CCP were planning on adding different varieties, they would have been less heavy on referring to sniper rifles in general as railguns. It might be worth noting that I've heard nothing from CCP about racial sniper rifles, and I'm sure no one else has, either. CCP never puts everything out there. Ever. Which is why you can't know.
Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Terrible representations of the respective races weaponry How? |
Vermaak Kuvakei
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:45:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Terrible representations of the respective races weaponry Sansha will get forearm nano injectors to make people into True Slaves. Prove it |
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Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:46:00 -
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Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Terrible representations of the respective races weaponry Sansha will get forearm nano injectors to make people into True Slaves. Prove it He will once you prove how this is a "terrible representation of the respective race's weaponry". |
Vermaak Kuvakei
Doomheim
89
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:50:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Terrible representations of the respective races weaponry Sansha will get forearm nano injectors to make people into True Slaves. Prove it He will once you prove how this is a "terrible representation of the respective race's weaponry". Why would the users of the two most powerful forms of weaponry have shorter range, AND weaker power than the current rifle? |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:58:00 -
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Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Terrible representations of the respective races weaponry Sansha will get forearm nano injectors to make people into True Slaves. Prove it He will once you prove how this is a "terrible representation of the respective race's weaponry". Why would the users of the two most powerful forms of weaponry have shorter range, AND weaker power than the current rifle? That doesn't even make sense. Realistically speaking, it's a great representation. |
Vermaak Kuvakei
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:25:00 -
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Look at the information on the Eve encyclopedia about the gallente and minmatar weapons, til then you don't know s*** |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:43:00 -
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Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Look at the information on the Eve encyclopedia about the gallente and minmatar weapons, til then you don't know s***
That forearm injector thing was a joke. |
Vermaak Kuvakei
Doomheim
89
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:48:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Look at the information on the Eve encyclopedia about the gallente and minmatar weapons, til then you don't know s*** That forearm injector thing was a joke. I know, that's why I said prove it |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
73
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Posted - 2012.12.25 00:39:00 -
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Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Look at the information on the Eve encyclopedia about the gallente and minmatar weapons, til then you don't know s*** I know plenty. You aren't backing up your claims. I looked, and it said nothing that contradicted me. |
Vermaak Kuvakei
Doomheim
89
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Posted - 2013.01.05 21:26:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Vermaak Kuvakei wrote:Look at the information on the Eve encyclopedia about the gallente and minmatar weapons, til then you don't know s*** I know plenty. You aren't backing up your claims. I looked, and it said nothing that contradicted me. The minmatar use artillery which is longer range in more powerful than railguns, need i say more twit? |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.01.05 21:52:00 -
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OK a few thing the current AR is a blaster therefore its a gallentee weapon not caldari, the sniper is a railgun therefore it is a caldari weapon, Mass driver is minmatar look at the thing,
As for the Sniper thing i doubht minmatar will have the high fire rate one i would suspect it will be a extremly high damage weapon with a slow fire rate that is if it even has a clip and is does not have a breach loading system, in EVE long range minmattar weapons all are slow rate of fire but are also the heaviest hitting weapons in the game not even missiles hit as hard, I think the gallentee would be the fast firing weapon most akin to a battlerifle as the Gallentee blasters have always had issues with range |
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