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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:

Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Telcontar Dunedain wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

The lower discrepancies factor in the bonuses you get from higher skill levels so the gap is still there, but isn't excessive.

So should standard suits be competitive in nullsec then? Because that's where this game is currently going....

Suits are another issue. With the bonuses you get from higher skill level, you still get barely any advantage for upgrading. I know a lot of people think the hp upgrades were excessive in E3, removing them completely just makes me want to stick with a Type-II.

no ppl want crutches
ur higher cpu/pg and mod slots already give u a bigger advantage over the lower tier player so why do u need a BASE hp buff when u already can get ALOT more HP by fitting MORE HIGHER end mods?

I'm not going to be playing this game if it continues to be about pubstomping. It's tedious.

If you and your scrubs want to stay in hisec stomping pubs with protogear have fun ;)

Here is a transcript from IRC that you missed -

Telc: its not really a particular set of nerfs/flattening
Telc: its the general trend
Telc: the game is getting wrecked by crying
Telc: because there is gear in game that is being used where it shouldn't be used
Mobius_Wyvern: For example?
Telc: any proto gear
Telc: do you seriously want us to be farming hisec players in 6 months?
Telc: think about the game when it has other outlets for players
Telc: ie FW and nullsec
Telc: when FW is released
Telc: the isk payouts in hisec should be radically reduced
Telc: make it too expensive to run proto gear
GoD-NoVa: preach it
Telc: fw payouts should be much better
Telc: so good players go to fw
Telc: yet noone on the forums thinks about this at all
Telc: they just cry and cry about getting stomped
Mobius_Wyvern: Right now there's not really a reason to change
Mobius_Wyvern: Plenty of reason to discuss it
Mobius_Wyvern: But hi-sec is all we have right now
GoD-NoVa: just like in eve if the good players want to get more money and better stuff they need to go to null
Telc: imo its totally counterproductive
Mobius_Wyvern: And we still need to test things
Telc: we aren't testing ****
Mobius_Wyvern: Say what?
Telc: this is just endless thrashing of crappy balance choices
Mobius_Wyvern: Ah, ok
Telc: ie
Telc: we are finely tuning the balance
Telc: for an artificial situation
Telc: a situation I won't be playing
Telc: because its a tedious game this way
Telc: i think that anyone coming into FW before they are ready
Telc: should die really quickly
Telc: ie
Telc: they aren't geared for it
Telc: and they aren't skilled enough for it
Telc: so they have to work for it
Telc: ie "progression"
Mobius_Wyvern: Right
Telc: so these proto suit/proto weapon flattenings
Telc: have harmed a game that doesn't exist yet
Telc: all to make a bunch of whiners happier with the "balance"
Mobius_Wyvern: I gotta agree that I don't see the appeal in pub stomping
Mobius_Wyvern: I'm going for FW as soon as I can
Mobius_Wyvern: And I think a lot of people will be doing the same
Mobius_Wyvern: They only people worried about pub stomping are the pubs
Telc: we'll be waiting ;)


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Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2012.12.23 01:52:00 - [1] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: The lower discrepancies factor in the bonuses you get from higher skill levels so the gap is still there, but isn't excessive. So should standard suits be competitive in nullsec then? Because that's where this game is currently going.... Suits are another issue. With the bonuses you get from higher skill level, you still get barely any advantage for upgrading. I know a lot of people think the hp upgrades were excessive in E3, removing them completely just makes me want to stick with a Type-II. no ppl want crutches ur higher cpu/pg and mod slots already give u a bigger advantage over the lower tier player so why do u need a BASE hp buff when u already can get ALOT more HP by fitting MORE HIGHER end mods? I'm not going to be playing this game if it continues to be about pubstomping. It's tedious. If you and your scrubs want to stay in hisec stomping pubs with protogear have fun ;) Here is a transcript from IRC that you missed - Telc: its not really a particular set of nerfs/flattening Telc: its the general trend Telc: the game is getting wrecked by crying Telc: because there is gear in game that is being used where it shouldn't be used Mobius_Wyvern: For example? Telc: any proto gear Telc: do you seriously want us to be farming hisec players in 6 months? Telc: think about the game when it has other outlets for players Telc: ie FW and nullsec Telc: when FW is released Telc: the isk payouts in hisec should be radically reduced Telc: make it too expensive to run proto gear GoD-NoVa: preach it Telc: fw payouts should be much better Telc: so good players go to fw Telc: yet noone on the forums thinks about this at all Telc: they just cry and cry about getting stomped Mobius_Wyvern: Right now there's not really a reason to change Mobius_Wyvern: Plenty of reason to discuss it Mobius_Wyvern: But hi-sec is all we have right now GoD-NoVa: just like in eve if the good players want to get more money and better stuff they need to go to null Telc: imo its totally counterproductive Mobius_Wyvern: And we still need to test things Telc: we aren't testing **** Mobius_Wyvern: Say what? Telc: this is just endless thrashing of crappy balance choices Mobius_Wyvern: Ah, ok Telc: ie Telc: we are finely tuning the balance Telc: for an artificial situation Telc: a situation I won't be playing Telc: because its a tedious game this way Telc: i think that anyone coming into FW before they are ready Telc: should die really quickly Telc: ie Telc: they aren't geared for it Telc: and they aren't skilled enough for it Telc: so they have to work for it Telc: ie "progression" Mobius_Wyvern: Right Telc: so these proto suit/proto weapon flattenings Telc: have harmed a game that doesn't exist yet Telc: all to make a bunch of whiners happier with the "balance" Mobius_Wyvern: I gotta agree that I don't see the appeal in pub stomping Mobius_Wyvern: I'm going for FW as soon as I can Mobius_Wyvern: And I think a lot of people will be doing the same Mobius_Wyvern: They only people worried about pub stomping are the pubs Telc: we'll be waiting ;) Telc is a smart man.