DUST Search - What's up with all the vehicle hate?

Django Quik wrote:

WHz DS9899 wrote:

I call BS on that entire reply. HAV's ARE ment to soak up fire. and it's not impossible when it's happened several times to me. I've even seen sagris's get blown up by one standerd AV grenade... a fully fitted Sagris shouldn't be done like that. And what does it matter that only heavies can fit them? Most people that's skilled toward ground troops have have heavy skills by now (or should have them anyways). They would also have Forge Gun skills, and grandier skills at max. How about this: you try using a HAV and see how fast just one AV grenade kills you. You see how fast just one Forge Gun kills you. And don't tell me how to drive my HAV. I move around the map, and give help where needed. It's not fair when I get one shotted by a Forge Gun sitting in a hill that I can't even hit them at. HAV's are not supposed to be glass cannons, LAV's especially the high tier ones shouldn't be made out of paper, and the ShitShips souldn't be ****. For a 600k HAV, I should be able to without turning on any modules, take at least 8 Forge Gun shots before dying, a fully fitted T1 LAV should be able to take 4, and a fully fitted T1 Dropship should be able to take 5 At advanced level Forge guns (regular). None of them should one shot something that costs way more.

Ha! You call BS!? Your's is the most BS on this thread! A standard AV grenade won't even OHK a starter fit LAV unless it's already taken at least a bit of damage. I've tried AV nading tanks before and it is effective but it takes at least 4 to take out a pretty run of the mill sica or soma.

Let me make absolutely clear one important thing that should really put this entire discussion to rest:
There is absolutely no weapon that can kill any tank in one hit.


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Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.12.21 15:10:00 - [1] - Quote It's really simple.. Less Offensive MOAR DEFENSIVE Take the damage a HAV outputs down and increase its ability to tank. Hell, make variants for it. I lost 7000 eHP in two shots to a Forge Gun (Not Militia dw) which killed me instantly, It was a single guy who managed to go through my redline, shoved his LAV in the back of me so I rolled forward onto a Hill, got stuck and died. Saddest HAV loss ever.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.12.21 15:37:00 - [2] - Quote WHz DS9899 wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: It's really simple.. Less Offensive MOAR DEFENSIVE Take the damage a HAV outputs down and increase its ability to tank. Hell, make variants for it. I lost 7000 eHP in two shots to a Forge Gun (Not Militia dw) which killed me instantly, It was a single guy who managed to go through my redline, shoved his LAV in the back of me so I rolled forward onto a Hill, got stuck and died. Saddest HAV loss ever. they just need to buff tanking abilities of Vehicles in general. ground tropps are fine. Vehicles just need some love is all. But no damage changes (well, missiles could use some more splash, and a little lower damage.) You have to choose man. Right now, if I could tank damage well with the damage output I give out? I'd stomp everything. It is not fair for ground troops if the HAV = instant win. You say no to damage? Then they'll say no to tanking. I use a stabilized blaster on my Gunlogi, I don't hold the trigger firing like a muppet, I take burst shots at someone. Everything dies in 4 shots, heavies take double maybe. If I have good ground support, I don't die. Now, you want them to be tankier? Then let's have tankier vehicles, but less damage output. - The guy who plays Tank, Dropship and Assault Ground troop.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.12.22 08:18:00 - [3] - Quote Django Quik wrote: WHz DS9899 wrote: I call BS on that entire reply. HAV's ARE ment to soak up fire. and it's not impossible when it's happened several times to me. I've even seen sagris's get blown up by one standerd AV grenade... a fully fitted Sagris shouldn't be done like that. And what does it matter that only heavies can fit them? Most people that's skilled toward ground troops have have heavy skills by now (or should have them anyways). They would also have Forge Gun skills, and grandier skills at max. How about this: you try using a HAV and see how fast just one AV grenade kills you. You see how fast just one Forge Gun kills you. And don't tell me how to drive my HAV. I move around the map, and give help where needed. It's not fair when I get one shotted by a Forge Gun sitting in a hill that I can't even hit them at. HAV's are not supposed to be glass cannons, LAV's especially the high tier ones shouldn't be made out of paper, and the ShitShips souldn't be **. For a 600k HAV, I should be able to without turning on any modules, take at least 8 Forge Gun shots before dying, a fully fitted T1 LAV should be able to take 4, and a fully fitted T1 Dropship should be able to take 5 At advanced level Forge guns (regular). None of them should one shot something that costs way more. Ha! You call BS!? Your's is the most BS on this thread! A standard AV grenade won't even OHK a starter fit LAV unless it's already taken at least a bit of damage. I've tried AV nading tanks before and it is effective but it takes at least 4 to take out a pretty run of the mill sica or soma. Let me make absolutely clear one important thing that should really put this entire discussion to rest: There is absolutely no weapon that can kill any tank in one hit.** lol, bad. AV Nades will one shot a basic militia LAV Prototype Breach Forge Gun at the rear of a Tank will deal massive damage that can result in a 1 hit kill (Though it really depends on the fit, it's usually 2 hits) 2 hits to destroy a tank is all that is needed.. seems pretty broken to me. Oh and me and Hughes took out a Sica with our Duvolles and some Flux Grenades.. it was sad. (The guy was running around in circles trying to shoot us with a Railgun xD)