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Ludvig Enraga wrote:

Exactly the same here. I have not slept well past two days, so what I perceive may be unreliable but. What I noticed with Breach SG is that shots that you re-fire right after you send a shell into chamber (which is a lot of the time with only 2 shells in the 'drum') tend to miss completely. For example, I would be sprinting, bunny hopping while franticly trying to reload - at this point SG reticle disappears off the screen - but I figure i still have my target square in the part of the screen where the reticle is supposed to be if I were not reloading. Next I fire - sure enough, right as I finish reload and squeeze the trigger the reticle appears again (SG ready for fire after reload) and it's right over the target, yet I miss. This lead me to believe that there are some conditions when shots are misdetected (like those taken right after reload).

Reout Karaal wrote:

Shotty is my primary spec weapon. This issue is not new. It seems that third of your shotgun shooting and you seeing registered hits is just a glitch -- the enemy doesn't feel a thing.

Happens on every shotgun tier (militia - proto), but it seems to be a problem with the same users every match -- I could throw some unshotgunable names from yesterday, but will not. I tried to get these guys more than two times, every time same result -- shots not registering despite shields flash. Killed some other people from their team just fine, but at the end they went XX/0. (Same problem with sniper -- got a clean pot shot, guy lit up, no damage at all, turned around and ARed me.)

What happens with shotty: you run around the guy, get close (like 3-4m) and start pumping at his head/chest while getting closer, you can reach out and touch him when you're at your 3rd and 4th shot, all of them make him light up like a christmas tree (full hit at point blank range, duh) but only the last shot registers, and barely scratches him. At this point guy is killing you f2f with his H/L/S whatever. Sometimes they turn around quicker and do this funny sidestepping thing -- you get 3-4 shots to connect on your console, but no damage is done -- hitbox glitching?

My ping to the battle server is <=48ms, everything runs smooth. Just no damage from shotty.

Like I said -- mostly happens for the same group of players each match, go figure.

May be related: sometime you let go a round (and even maime/kill with it) but you can't reload -- discharged shell does not register -- 8 shells remain. Until you fire up another one -- then you're magically at 6 shots left. Still happens this build.


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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.20 17:23:00 - [1] - Quote So in the match I just played, I've narrowed down the cause of this problem to one of 3 possibilities: 1. Shotgun hit detection has changed in some way, making what I THOUGHT were accurate shots miss. 2. I'm not functioning properly because I've been overheating the past few days and it's had a negative impact on my sleep patterns (this is the most likely option) 3. Leaving Skype running in the background while on ADSL2+ causes lag (more likely than option 1, but not as likely as option 2, I can run Yahoo Messenger just fine with most games)
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.20 19:01:00 - [2] - Quote A few people have mentioned that apparently they're seeing a significant deadzone that wasn't there last build. That would cause trouble with controlled aiming in CQC. I haven't noticed a problem personally, but I'm not really functioning at my best lately, so it's reasonable to expect me not to at the moment. If you haven't, try turning your "deadzone" settings to 0 on the Move settings page - it helped me in previous builds.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.21 13:08:00 - [3] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Exactly the same here. I have not slept well past two days, so what I perceive may be unreliable but. What I noticed with Breach SG is that shots that you re-fire right after you send a shell into chamber (which is a lot of the time with only 2 shells in the 'drum') tend to miss completely. For example, I would be sprinting, bunny hopping while franticly trying to reload - at this point SG reticle disappears off the screen - but I figure i still have my target square in the part of the screen where the reticle is supposed to be if I were not reloading. Next I fire - sure enough, right as I finish reload and squeeze the trigger the reticle appears again (SG ready for fire after reload) and it's right over the target, yet I miss. This lead me to believe that there are some conditions when shots are misdetected (like those taken right after reload). Oddly, my experience is almost exactly reversed. Firing straight from reloading (or mid-reload) has been MORE reliable for me with a Militia Shotgun. Reout Karaal wrote: Shotty is my primary spec weapon. This issue is not new. It seems that third of your shotgun shooting and you seeing registered hits is just a glitch -- the enemy doesn't feel a thing. Happens on every shotgun tier (militia - proto), but it seems to be a problem with the same users every match -- I could throw some unshotgunable names from yesterday, but will not. I tried to get these guys more than two times, every time same result -- shots not registering despite shields flash. Killed some other people from their team just fine, but at the end they went XX/0. (Same problem with sniper -- got a clean pot shot, guy lit up, no damage at all, turned around and ARed me.) What happens with shotty: you run around the guy, get close (like 3-4m) and start pumping at his head/chest while getting closer, you can reach out and touch him when you're at your 3rd and 4th shot, all of them make him light up like a christmas tree (full hit at point blank range, duh) but only the last shot registers, and barely scratches him. At this point guy is killing you f2f with his H/L/S whatever. Sometimes they turn around quicker and do this funny sidestepping thing -- you get 3-4 shots to connect on your console, but no damage is done -- hitbox glitching? My ping to the battle server is <=48ms, everything runs smooth. Just no damage from shotty. Like I said -- mostly happens for the same group of players each match, go figure. May be related: sometime you let go a round (and even maime/kill with it) but you can't reload -- discharged shell does not register -- 8 shells remain. Until you fire up another one -- then you're magically at 6 shots left. Still happens this build. And on this, I've seen similar, but the targets have yet to be COMPLETELY immune, and I usually seem to be almost as tough for them to hit if I'm moving at all - it's only when I stand still that I'll be taking hits from someone I can't damage. Of course, they sometimes don't need to be moving to be almost invulnerable against me, so it still feels a bit unfair.