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Erictheheartless
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:43:00 -
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stuff like this is why I have an issue with dust. Plain and simple I want a slightly more shooter. I do not want to have to get a degree in economics or mineralogy in order to play a game. I just want to shoot you in the face then bunny hop away laughing. if I wanted to devote this much of my cerebellum to something it would be to better myself in real life. Just saying to me spacemen are not serious business. |
Erictheheartless
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:45:00 -
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oh yeah and this --------> http://youtu.be/N-H8LpiQn_0 |
Erictheheartless
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Posted - 2012.12.20 16:11:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Erictheheartless wrote:stuff like this is why I have an issue with dust. Plain and simple I want a slightly more shooter. I do not want to have to get a degree in economics or mineralogy in order to play a game. I just want to shoot you in the face then bunny hop away laughing. if I wanted to devote this much of my cerebellum to something it would be to better myself in real life. Just saying to me spacemen are not serious business. I wouldn't worry too much about that. The beauty of New Eden is you can choose what you want to do. Industry and economics will most likely remain a mostly EVE thing but it would be nice to have the option of participating from the DUST side as well in some fashion. As a miner I have no interest in mining in first-person in DUST. I'd be happy to own planetary installations but they better be automated for the most part, like planetary interaction is in EVE. I will not run around with a man-portable mining laser. iguess I donGÇÖt mind miners mining if I can walk up behind them and be a shooter mining their skull. This can add a whole new aspect of the game for fps players you guys who want to do non fps stuff is cool but we can just charge in and drop you and move on. IGÇÖm kind of digging this now. Maybe we can get some music game people in here too we can beat them with guitars oooo oooo and maybe racing game people we can shoot their tires and blow up their tricked out future HondaGÇÖs drop in a couple fighting game aspects and I can upgrade my nova knife to hadouken levels.(sorry for the sarcasm level but I just upgraded that skill)(this is a fps game) lets concentrate on making a fully playable fps game then we can add in other stuff for sh*^s and giggles. |
Erictheheartless
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.20 18:05:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:Erictheheartless wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Erictheheartless wrote:stuff like this is why I have an issue with dust. Plain and simple I want a slightly more shooter. I do not want to have to get a degree in economics or mineralogy in order to play a game. I just want to shoot you in the face then bunny hop away laughing. if I wanted to devote this much of my cerebellum to something it would be to better myself in real life. Just saying to me spacemen are not serious business. I wouldn't worry too much about that. The beauty of New Eden is you can choose what you want to do. Industry and economics will most likely remain a mostly EVE thing but it would be nice to have the option of participating from the DUST side as well in some fashion. As a miner I have no interest in mining in first-person in DUST. I'd be happy to own planetary installations but they better be automated for the most part, like planetary interaction is in EVE. I will not run around with a man-portable mining laser. iguess I donGÇÖt mind miners mining if I can walk up behind them and be a shooter mining their skull. This can add a whole new aspect of the game for fps players you guys who want to do non fps stuff is cool but we can just charge in and drop you and move on. IGÇÖm kind of digging this now. Maybe we can get some music game people in here too we can beat them with guitars oooo oooo and maybe racing game people we can shoot their tires and blow up their tricked out future HondaGÇÖs drop in a couple fighting game aspects and I can upgrade my nova knife to hadouken levels.(sorry for the sarcasm level but I just upgraded that skill)(this is a fps game) lets concentrate on making a fully playable fps game then we can add in other stuff for sh*^s and giggles. Yes, In my mind this has always been the case. But since expectations of this game to be out and in-development for atleast 5+, 10+ years, there needs to be a visionaries also. while I do see your point my only rebuttal is that I do not think the life span of this game is as long as many believe. For a game to hold a console players attention for 5+ to 10+ years it would be a miracle and would have to have been the most perfect game created. realistically it has 3 good years maybe and then maybe if youGÇÖre lucky and have an extremely hardcore loyal fan base 2 more subpar years while people find a replacement. so it is good to come up with ideas and all but I think they would be best served by fine tuning the main idea first and try and build up that fan base before the ever wandering attention span of us console lowlifes finds something better suited to our liking. |
Erictheheartless
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.21 13:08:00 -
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I wouldn't worry too much about that. The beauty of New Eden is you can choose what you want to do. Industry and economics will most likely remain a mostly EVE thing but it would be nice to have the option of participating from the DUST side as well in some fashion.
As a miner I have no interest in mining in first-person in DUST. I'd be happy to own planetary installations but they better be automated for the most part, like planetary interaction is in EVE. I will not run around with a man-portable mining laser. [/quote] iguess I donGÇÖt mind miners mining if I can walk up behind them and be a shooter mining their skull. This can add a whole new aspect of the game for fps players you guys who want to do non fps stuff is cool but we can just charge in and drop you and move on. IGÇÖm kind of digging this now. Maybe we can get some music game people in here too we can beat them with guitars oooo oooo and maybe racing game people we can shoot their tires and blow up their tricked out future HondaGÇÖs drop in a couple fighting game aspects and I can upgrade my nova knife to hadouken levels.(sorry for the sarcasm level but I just upgraded that skill)(this is a fps game) lets concentrate on making a fully playable fps game then we can add in other stuff for sh*^s and giggles.[/quote]
Yes, In my mind this has always been the case.
But since expectations of this game to be out and in-development for atleast 5+, 10+ years, there needs to be a visionaries also.[/quote] while I do see your point my only rebuttal is that I do not think the life span of this game is as long as many believe. For a game to hold a console players attention for 5+ to 10+ years it would be a miracle and would have to have been the most perfect game created. realistically it has 3 good years maybe and then maybe if youGÇÖre lucky and have an extremely hardcore loyal fan base 2 more subpar years while people find a replacement. so it is good to come up with ideas and all but I think they would be best served by fine tuning the main idea first and try and build up that fan base before the ever wandering attention span of us console lowlifes finds something better suited to our liking.[/quote]
the MMO PS2 version of everquest lasted about 8 years.. [/quote] that's the exception not the rule. |
Erictheheartless
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.21 17:26:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Erictheheartless wrote: I wouldn't worry too much about that. The beauty of New Eden is you can choose what you want to do. Industry and economics will most likely remain a mostly EVE thing but it would be nice to have the option of participating from the DUST side as well in some fashion.
As a miner I have no interest in mining in first-person in DUST. I'd be happy to own planetary installations but they better be automated for the most part, like planetary interaction is in EVE. I will not run around with a man-portable mining laser.
iguess I donGÇÖt mind miners mining if I can walk up behind them and be a shooter mining their skull. This can add a whole new aspect of the game for fps players you guys who want to do non fps stuff is cool but we can just charge in and drop you and move on. IGÇÖm kind of digging this now. Maybe we can get some music game people in here too we can beat them with guitars oooo oooo and maybe racing game people we can shoot their tires and blow up their tricked out future HondaGÇÖs drop in a couple fighting game aspects and I can upgrade my nova knife to hadouken levels.(sorry for the sarcasm level but I just upgraded that skill)(this is a fps game) lets concentrate on making a fully playable fps game then we can add in other stuff for sh*^s and giggles.
Yes, In my mind this has always been the case.
But since expectations of this game to be out and in-development for atleast 5+, 10+ years, there needs to be a visionaries also.[/quote] while I do see your point my only rebuttal is that I do not think the life span of this game is as long as many believe. For a game to hold a console players attention for 5+ to 10+ years it would be a miracle and would have to have been the most perfect game created. realistically it has 3 good years maybe and then maybe if youGÇÖre lucky and have an extremely hardcore loyal fan base 2 more subpar years while people find a replacement. so it is good to come up with ideas and all but I think they would be best served by fine tuning the main idea first and try and build up that fan base before the ever wandering attention span of us console lowlifes finds something better suited to our liking.[/quote]
the MMO PS2 version of everquest lasted about 8 years.. [/quote] So why can't this be an exception too that's the exception not the rule.[/quote]
So why can't this be an exception too. Edit stuiped phone[/quote] i agree your phone is stupid..... and this can also be an exception but it is doubtful.i just think it would serve the community better to focus on the main aspects of the game and fine tune that first then add other stuff when it is complete. you know they do say dont count your chickens before they hatch for a reason. |
Erictheheartless
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Posted - 2012.12.21 17:44:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote: If for EVE side, what do they get from planets to be enough if incentive/annoyance to sink up ISK into DUST to make it worthwhile?
rumors and ideas have been thrown around, something about some kinda buff/bonus to the fleet in that system who's mercs control the planet there was nothing exceptional about everquest online adventures except this it was an open ended MMO for PS2, this game's got way more going for it than it did. the thing about EQOA was the novelty for PS2 players who most never played online game before to interact with thousands of others in an open world- that was the extent of it's appeal. this game also has stuff that the typical PS3 player has never had before but is also way funner. and no ones trying to take your precious gun game away from you eric we're just having a speculative discussion here, CCP is not known to pigeon hole themselves final to any one playstyle so there is room for mining or w/e, we're not trying to derail dev attention we're just speculating here because some of us are tired of all the regurgitation threads of OP MD or whatever they're crying about now. hey condescending a$$hat " funner " is not a word first off. and I do not mind the discussion based on the fact that I am participating and merely stating my point ( this is how debating works kid). I have stated that I think mining and what have you is fine LATER on but think a concerted effort to get this FPSmmorg's mechanics in line with other games that the core audience will be comparing it to. now before you start with 'this isn't other fps games " I understand and do not wish it to be I do however think that some other fps games have a more refined "gunplay" to them. Most of the people coming to dust are fps people we expect certain thing at minimum that is all I am trying to convey. |
Erictheheartless
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Posted - 2012.12.21 18:57:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Erik = Everquest FanBOI :)
Now, if we can keep talking about mining/scavenging at some future point, in a PvE/PvP setting that'd be cool. never played everquest or wow for that matter. |
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