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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.20 00:40:00 -
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It makes me proud to say the following since I am a dedicated ninja knifer.
They don't require a stupid reload. My victims can confirm that for me as they struggled to reload while trying to dodge me in a close quarter 1v1 confrontation while I sprint literally under their gun. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.20 08:06:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:It makes me proud to say the following since I am a dedicated ninja knifer.
They don't require a stupid reload. My victims can confirm that for me as they struggled to reload while trying to dodge me in a close quarter 1v1 confrontation while I sprint literally under their gun. Can you do a regular melee with nova knives? If not, it wouldn't be too hard to just melee NKers to death.
No. No melee with nova knives. Fists and the butt end of a rifle are good, but only if you land a good hit. It's much harder to melee someone than you think. |
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:01:00 -
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Free Healing wrote:Well... i may be stating the obvious but since this probably isn't a serious post i'll oblige.
A pair of Nova Knifes can dish out more melee DPS than any other Weapon can.
Well now that that's out of the way.
-They're also the only weapon that can be held in both hands, and dual-wielding blades is always badass. -They can stab people more easily than other weapons -They are quieter than any other weapon, at least i think so. -Easier to hip-fire than any other weapon.
That's all i got.
Keep the faith.
1. That much is true. Dual wielding is badass.
2. No they can't more easily because they are the ONLY weapons that can stab at all. Never heard of anyone trying to stab me with an assault rifle or forge gun.
3. Not really. They produce a 'shing-shing' kind of noise that is noticeable from only a short distance. I notice mercs tend to get scared whenever they hear that. It has a very good intimidation factor working for it.
4. Well, that's because you can't aim down with them and you have to be close.
ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:And yes I'm sneaking behind them but I keep missing the swing because the range is so low and the hit detection for mele attacks in general is rubbish.
The range is not as low as you think. You don't have to be hugging them in order to kill them. They have a hit distance of about close to 2-3 feet in front of you. That's about the length of your arm stretched out.
Garrett Blacknova wrote:Waiting on someone who's skilled into Nova Knives to update me on the details I'm missing.
The numbers have not changed for the Nova Knife. Not sure about the scrambler pistols though.
ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:Even if you sneak, its rare to have enough time to charge up the knife and attack one or twice before he looks around and kills you.
With the standard (1.5 sec) and advanced (1.0 sec) Nova Knives they are slow to charge and I think the skill book that effects their charge time is not having any effect at all.
However, once you get a hold on the prototype Ishukone Nova Knives (0.5 sec), they become insane. The charge time is so low that you barely have to hold down the R1 button at all to get a charge ready. Also, their damage is pretty high even with just Nova Knife Proficiency Level 2 and that's before applying the enhanced sidearm damage mods. With this configuration, I can kill most assaults in one hit and almost all heavies in three hits. Sometimes, if I'm really lucky and if I take advantage of the confusion, I can cut down 4 mercs in 10 seconds and it's all because of the insanely-fast charge time. Even when I have to sprint first to get close.
There is also one other thing people seem to forget.
The Nova Knife, if you one-hit-kill a sniper, will give the sniper a false impression that he/she was counter-sniped by someone else and will occasionally come back to the same spot. I saw this happen several times during Codex as one or two of my victims would come back to the same spot but just reposition themselves a few feet left or right thinking they are getting ample cover from the counter sniper when in fact I was waiting for them behind the hill they never checked.
As for my targets turning around at the last moment, well... that's inevitable. I occasionally run into those people. At least now I can see that snipers are checking their six like they are suppose to. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:53:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I think i've only seen one nova knifer.
It was weird. He was just running at me so I just...jumped back and kept shooting.
It'll weird you out man.
It's only natural that you jumped back because you know once that knife touches your assault suit you're dead. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.20 17:27:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: The Nova Knife, if you one-hit-kill a sniper, will give the sniper a false impression that he/she was counter-sniped by someone else and will occasionally come back to the same spot.
Who is so oblivious to not read on the top right corner what weapon killed them? Oh well, i guess some snipers are really dense. I've seen quite a few and it's like they can't pay attention to anything but their scope, and barely even that. Good snipers are but a few, horrible snipers are everywhere.
I know right? I mean, it's like the sniper is like...
"Um, why I am dying in this same spot over and over again? And I don't know but I keep seeing this message on the top-right corner and I don't know what it is. I think it's trying to tell me something." |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.20 17:28:00 -
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Sparten 269 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:It makes me proud to say the following since I am a dedicated ninja knifer.
They don't require a stupid reload. My victims can confirm that for me as they struggled to reload while trying to dodge me in a close quarter 1v1 confrontation while I sprint literally under their gun. Mass driver, dodge that.
Easy, kill you before you have a chance to pull the trigger. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.20 17:47:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Sparten 269 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:It makes me proud to say the following since I am a dedicated ninja knifer.
They don't require a stupid reload. My victims can confirm that for me as they struggled to reload while trying to dodge me in a close quarter 1v1 confrontation while I sprint literally under their gun. Mass driver, dodge that. Easy, kill you before you have a chance to pull the trigger. I could be wrong, but the last time I checked, Mass Drivers had SLIGHTLY longer range than Nova Knives. Feel free to tell me otherwise if that's changed?
Not all mercs like to say "hi" to you from the front.
Interesting how people forget that one can come from behind, below, and from above. |
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Posted - 2012.12.21 17:51:00 -
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ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:
My main problem with the knives is that the hit detection for melee is already "meh", so adding a weapon system centered around that is kinda stupid if you don't fix the melee hit detection.
The Nova Knife is no longer a melee weapon and is no longer effected by melee mechanics. It is now technically a sidearm.
Also drop the price, you would think a simple blade would be less expensive than an Assault rifle with advanced systems.
The Nova Knife is not a simple blade. It uses super-heated plasma to sharpen the blade and it requires CPU/PG to operate at all. The price may be high at the moment, but it might drop once the players have full control of the market.
And also for gameplay reasons, nova knives are not as effective as a shotgun that can do everything better at this range.
Well... DUH!!! For general gameplay where you just want to pick up a weapon and kill people without putting much thought into it, of course the Nova Knife is useless. But this is a special weapon that is not tailored for general gameplay is it? It's a weapon for pros. Scrubs or Blueberries need not even touch it. Scrubs are not even worthy of looking at it. Think of it as the Law Giver from Judge Dread: can only be used by a Judge.
1000 ISK seems reasonable. Maybe 750 ISK for standard and 1000 ISK for prototype.
Too cheap even for standard.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.21 20:37:00 -
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@Armagedon
If you don't like the weapon because you think bringing a knife to a gunfight is impractical and have little intention of using it, then why are you talking about it? Just don't use and leave it to the pros to test it. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.27 00:09:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:I personally use Nova knives. It is hard for combat confrontation. I believe its meant for stealth confrontation. I just use it for giggles.
Which is why I'm looking forward to the cloak modules. I'm already pretty good with the knife. Imagine me with the cloak. |
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:17:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Whoever tried sneaking up on me when I was giving overwatch wasn't, but I doubt it was you. Just saw a red dot show up behind me, and I was sprinting down the mountain before they could hit me. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a scout however, since someone told me a heavy was heading my way and I heard forge shots hitting behind me on my way to cover.
Definitely wasn't me. I never use a heavy suit.
If it was me, I would've chased you down all the way into the red zone if I had to. And considering I can sprint two football fields in 20 seconds, you would not live. |
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