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ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation
Coalition of Galactic Unity
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Posted - 2012.12.19 23:54:00 -
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Name one thing they can do that weapons can't do better.
They are the most underpowered weapon in Dust. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation
Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.19 23:59:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Sharpen a stick into a spear?
And die by gunfire while doing so. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation
Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:24:00 -
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Free Healing wrote:Well... i may be stating the obvious but since this probably isn't a serious post i'll oblige.
A pair of Nova Knifes can dish out more melee DPS than any other Weapon can.
Well now that that's out of the way.
-They're also the only weapon that can be held in both hands, and dual-wielding blades is always badass.
-They can stab people more easily than other weapons
-They are quieter than any other weapon, at least i think so.
-Easier to hip-fire than any other weapon.
That's all i got.
Keep the faith.
All of these points are not important.
Why?
Because you can't f'ing hit a target unless you're hugging him and he isn't moving.
If he moves, you are probably toast, unless you bunny hop in which case you have a few extra seconds.
And yes I'm sneaking behind them but I keep missing the swing because the range is so low and the hit detection for mele attacks in general is rubbish.
Garrett Blacknova wrote:Name one other weapon that's silent when used and doesn't make you appear on nearby enemy mini-maps.
...and that's about it. With the right skills and buffs, you could out-DPS Nova Knives in Codex. Not sure if that's still the case now, though. Haven't checked the math properly yet. Waiting on someone who's skilled into Nova Knives to update me on the details I'm missing.
Not important.
Good luck killing anything that's not stationary and isn't blind with it.
Even if you sneak, its rare to have enough time to charge up the knife and attack one or twice before he looks around and kills you. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation
Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.21 13:05:00 -
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My main problem with the knives is that the hit detection for melee is already "meh", so adding a weapon system centered around that is kinda stupid if you don't fix the melee hit detection.
Also drop the price, you would think a simple blade would be less expensive than an Assault rifle with advanced systems.
And also for gameplay reasons, nova knives are not as effective as a shotgun that can do everything better at this range.
1000 ISK seems reasonable.
Maybe 750 ISK for standard and 1000 ISK for prototype. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation
Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.21 20:11:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:
My main problem with the knives is that the hit detection for melee is already "meh", so adding a weapon system centered around that is kinda stupid if you don't fix the melee hit detection.
The Nova Knife is no longer a melee weapon and is no longer effected by melee mechanics. It is now technically a sidearm.
Also drop the price, you would think a simple blade would be less expensive than an Assault rifle with advanced systems.
The Nova Knife is not a simple blade. It uses super-heated plasma to sharpen the blade and it requires CPU/PG to operate at all. The price may be high at the moment, but it might drop once the players have full control of the market.
And also for gameplay reasons, nova knives are not as effective as a shotgun that can do everything better at this range.
Well... DUH!!! For general gameplay where you just want to pick up a weapon and kill people without putting much thought into it, of course the Nova Knife is useless. But this is a special weapon that is not tailored for general gameplay is it? It's a weapon for pros. Scrubs or Blueberries need not even touch it. Scrubs are not even worthy of looking at it. Think of it as the Law Giver from Judge Dread: can only be used by a Judge.
1000 ISK seems reasonable.
Maybe 750 ISK for standard and 1000 ISK for prototype.
Too cheap even for standard.
IMHO, if you don't make any weapon system practical - its not worth adding into the game.
Simple.
I'm having a lot of fun using them, but they are the most useless thing since warm ice. |
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