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          Rayan Storm 
          ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 02:12:00 -
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          Cannot wait for these rifle additions! It will be sick! Any thoughts on what these guns will be like? Handling, damage, RoF, etc. Ideas? | 
      
      
      
          
          Paran Tadec 
          Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 02:13:00 -
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          We already have the gallente AR.... | 
      
      
      
          
          Mavado V Noriega 
          SyNergy Gaming
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 02:13:00 -
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          Gallente AR is already in the game........................its the current AR ur using....................... | 
      
      
      
          
          Rayan Storm 
          ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 02:20:00 -
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          ...um. yeah...about that. i was thinking about two things at once....
  i meant the scrambler rifle.  *headdesk | 
      
      
      
          
          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Bojo's School of the Trades
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 02:23:00 -
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          Just a guess: more or less a tac AR with a smaller clip and high headshot damage (since scrambler pistols have high headshot damage) | 
      
      
      
          
          karin gaton 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 02:58:00 -
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          Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Just a guess: more or less a tac AR with a smaller clip and high headshot damage (since scrambler pistols have high headshot damage)  
  but full auto! | 
      
      
      
          
          Abner Kalen 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 03:00:00 -
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          Doesn't every weapon have high headshot damage? I'm still spraying and praying with my AR but this morning I got a few random headshots (I think). | 
      
      
      
          
          DUST Fiend 
          Immobile Infantry
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 03:04:00 -
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          I would totally use it on eggs | 
      
      
      
          
          Garrett Blacknova 
          Codex Troopers
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 03:14:00 -
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          Abner Kalen wrote:Doesn't every weapon have high headshot damage? I'm still spraying and praying with my AR but this morning I got a few random headshots (I think).   Scrambler Pistol has a larger headshot bonus than most weapons. Scrambler Rifle works of the same tech, so it will probably follow the same pattern, and deal EVEN MORE MASSIVE DAMAGE than most guns. Might be that it's a poor man's sniper rifle with body shots, but a headshot will be lethal to almost anything. | 
      
      
      
          
          Talos Alomar 
          Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 05:01:00 -
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          Abner Kalen wrote:Doesn't every weapon have high headshot damage? I'm still spraying and praying with my AR but this morning I got a few random headshots (I think).  
 
  most weapons have 1.5x headshots.
  the scrambler pistol has 3.75x damage for a headshot. compare that to the sniper rifle's 1.95x.
  since the energy weapons in game have 120% damage vs shields the SR will ruin any shield tankers day very quickly up close.
  edit - I should mention that all energy weapons thus far in game only deal 80% to armor, so its likely that will be carried over to the AR as well. | 
      
      
      
          
          Ten-Sidhe 
          Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 08:13:00 -
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          I will probably out range the tac ar significantly. It will also probably be higher damage per shot and slower firing, based off the pistol's damage. I would not be surprised if it was around 1/2 damage and 2x rate of fire of tac sniper with a 200m range or so. With high damage vs shields and heads as Talos Alomar said above. | 
      
      
      
          
          Bhor Derri 
          Legion of Eden
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 17:31:00 -
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          200m range on a 3.75x headshot damage wep is game breaking. | 
      
      
      
          
          Vermaak Kuvakei 
          Doomheim
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 17:35:00 -
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          It's meant to be under Lr range so i see this as a direct gallente Ar competitor | 
      
      
      
          
          Sobriety Denied 
          Universal Allies Inc.
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 18:15:00 -
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          I'm hoping is something like the M1 Garand from Bad Company 2. | 
      
      
      
          
          Qn1f3 
          Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 18:31:00 -
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          Sobriety Denied wrote:I'm hoping is something like the M1 Garand from Bad Company 2.  
  Maybe not just that rifle in Bad Company 2, but I was thinking that type of rifle is what the Scrambler rifle will be like. Also probably with the increased headshot multiplier and moderate range. A hybrid between the sniper and assault rifle is what I wish for! | 
      
      
      
          
          Abner Kalen 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 20:13:00 -
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          Talos Alomar wrote:Abner Kalen wrote:Doesn't every weapon have high headshot damage? I'm still spraying and praying with my AR but this morning I got a few random headshots (I think).  most weapons have 1.5x headshots. the scrambler pistol has 3.75x damage for a headshot. compare that to the sniper rifle's 1.95x. since the energy weapons in game have 120% damage vs shields the SR will ruin any shield tankers day very quickly up close. edit - I should mention that all energy weapons thus far in game only deal 80% to armor, so its likely that will be carried over to the AR as well.  
  Where are these numbers coming from? To me, with a basic type-1 AR I can shoot someone for several seconds in the chest and whittle him down, or randomly a shot will hit him in the head and I'll score an instant kill.
  I guess I don't understand what the difference between 1.5x and 3.75x if all guns score instant headshot kills. o_O | 
      
      
      
          
          Sobriety Denied 
          Universal Allies Inc.
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 20:20:00 -
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          Qn1f3 wrote:Sobriety Denied wrote:I'm hoping is something like the M1 Garand from Bad Company 2.  Maybe not just that rifle in Bad Company 2, but I was thinking that type of rifle is what the Scrambler rifle will be like. Also probably with the increased headshot multiplier and moderate range. A hybrid between the sniper and assault rifle is what I wish for!  
  basically what the pistol used to be, so is maybe why they nerfed the pistol..? | 
      
      
      
          
          Sobriety Denied 
          Universal Allies Inc.
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        Posted - 2012.12.19 20:22:00 -
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          Abner Kalen wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:Abner Kalen wrote:Doesn't every weapon have high headshot damage? I'm still spraying and praying with my AR but this morning I got a few random headshots (I think).  most weapons have 1.5x headshots. the scrambler pistol has 3.75x damage for a headshot. compare that to the sniper rifle's 1.95x. since the energy weapons in game have 120% damage vs shields the SR will ruin any shield tankers day very quickly up close. edit - I should mention that all energy weapons thus far in game only deal 80% to armor, so its likely that will be carried over to the AR as well.  Where are these numbers coming from? To me, with a basic type-1 AR I can shoot someone for several seconds in the chest and whittle him down, or randomly a shot will hit him in the head and I'll score an instant kill. I guess I don't understand what the difference between 1.5x and 3.75x if all guns score instant headshot kills. o_O  
  well in grunt terms 3 shots to the head with a dmg modded creo can get pretty ugly | 
      
      
      
          
          Rayan Storm 
          ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2012.12.20 00:30:00 -
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          Thanks for the input guys!
  Honestly, the brainchild of a AR and a SR sounds freaking amazing. I would def. spec into that and see how it goes. Remember how everyone said the Laser rifle was horrible, and now we get mowed down by the few guys who went proto in it? Watch this gun be the same, haha.
  HEADSHOT! Sunnyside up! | 
      
      
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