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SGT Dauphine
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.17 04:20:00 -
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Greetings all,
As a long time EVE player I think it's important to make DUST players who are not familiar of EVE Online aware of the political landscape they will be entering.
So, I've decided to give you all ongoing updates of the battles that are raging for New Eden.
More Comprehensive info to follow. In the meantime below is a link to a very simple representation of the current major power blocs in the galaxy.
DISCLAIMER: This map is not 100% accurate and simplifies what is a rather complicated arrangement of NAPs and front lines, but it's the best I could find as an initial overview.
http://i.imgur.com/WXqG4.jpg
P.S. I'm currently involved on only one frontline and therefore will be researching the goings on elsewhere in the galaxy, if you have info to share, feel free to get in touch.
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.12.17 04:22:00 -
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Wow pretty colors...
Also How does someone come to own a section of the galaxy is it just man power. I don't play eve. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.12.17 06:28:00 -
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I like eve's built in hexagonal territory maps. Unfourtunately they don't mega-alliances. collation, or player empires.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gn-oGAdlmSc/UEozcpV49GI/AAAAAAAACLg/59mrqx_sNu0/s1600/New-Eden_Tiled.jpg |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.12.17 12:04:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Wow pretty colors...
Also How does someone come to own a section of the galaxy is it just man power. I don't play eve.
It's a long difficult process involving "sovereignty" mechanics in which you have to spend days and/or weeks taking over systems. It involves a lot of co-ordination, an insane amount of patience and a great deal of people.
If memory serves (it's been a while) if you want to jack sovereignty from someone you have to set up Sovereignty Blockade Units and you have to place down a certain number for however many gates (link between solar systems) are in that system. In which case you have to keep them alive as they can be shot down by your opposing force. It takes a lot though, like, a LOT. The SBU takes 8 hours to online and once that occurs the system is considered "vulnerable" after downtime.
This point you can go in and start "reinforcing" structures like Stations, Infrastructure Hubs, etc. Reinforcing is just basically dropping the damned things massive amount of shields (HP numbering in the millions) and then it adds a "reinforcement timer" of like, 72 hours. With which they can either repair the thing or prevent you from coming back and finishing the job. Stations don't get destroyed but I think Infrastructure Hubs do.
At any rate you can read all about that non-sense here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sovereignty_guide
GENERALLY - you need a massive amount of people with a lot of heavy damage ships (like capitals for instance) in order to get jack of **** done in null-sec and that's why a lot of people are clamoring for reform. No-one likes station bashing but it's what you have to do if you want your name in the system. It takes forever but, that's war.
It's why I stay the absolute **** away from Eve Politics lately... It's boring... |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.12.17 12:06:00 -
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SGT Dauphine wrote:Greetings all, As a long time EVE player I think it's important to make DUST players who are not familiar of EVE Online aware of the political landscape they will be entering. So, I've decided to give you all ongoing updates of the battles that are raging for New Eden. More Comprehensive info to follow. In the meantime below is a link to a very simple representation of the current major power blocs in the galaxy. DISCLAIMER: This map is not 100% accurate and simplifies what is a rather complicated arrangement of NAPs and front lines, but it's the best I could find as an initial overview. http://i.imgur.com/WXqG4.jpgP.S. I'm currently involved on only one frontline and therefore will be researching the goings on elsewhere in the galaxy, if you have info to share, feel free to get in touch.
Nice, so Goonswarm/Test now own the entire map. Lot of people hate Goonswarm but what the hell are you honestly going to do about it? Just play by their rules and do your own thing - they usually just leave people alone anyway. |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
966
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Posted - 2012.12.17 14:05:00 -
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VFK by Christmas, just not saying which one. |
Dust Goon
Doomheim
22
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:23:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:VFK by Christmas, just not saying which one.
RESET TEST.
I hope this new build fixes my mic. :( |
Banjo Hero
BurgezzE.T.F
17
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:31:00 -
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"Test Alliance Please Ignore"
Heh, great name.
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:38:00 -
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They tend to be ******* impossible to ignore in comms though.
Woop, i can post on my main again. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:41:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Wow pretty colors...
Also How does someone come to own a section of the galaxy is it just man power. I don't play eve.
The CFC owns almost all the Technetium moons in the game, which are essential for the production of Tech II ships, which virtually everyone uses in large numbers. Basically means we have the entire in-game market by the short hairs. |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:45:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Wow pretty colors...
Also How does someone come to own a section of the galaxy is it just man power. I don't play eve. The CFC owns almost all the Technetium moons in the game, which are essential for the production of Tech II ships, which virtually everyone uses in large numbers. Basically means we have the entire in-game market by the short hairs.
Us goons hold over 100 tech moons alone, which is a substantial number, we just took about 50/60 from NC. the last couple of months and we've given them all away to our allies because we're that ******* awesome.
We're still earning well over 1 trillion isk a month in moon mats alone. |
Myles Aarne
Amarrican Ground Forces
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
22
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:47:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Wow pretty colors...
Also How does someone come to own a section of the galaxy is it just man power. I don't play eve. It's a long difficult process involving "sovereignty" mechanics in which you have to spend days and/or weeks taking over systems. It involves a lot of co-ordination, an insane amount of patience and a great deal of people.
This.
It's why you see EVE Online battles with a couple of thousand players involved.
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:48:00 -
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Myles Aarne wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Wow pretty colors...
Also How does someone come to own a section of the galaxy is it just man power. I don't play eve. It's a long difficult process involving "sovereignty" mechanics in which you have to spend days and/or weeks taking over systems. It involves a lot of co-ordination, an insane amount of patience and a great deal of people. This. It's why you see EVE Online battles with a couple of thousand players involved.
Not strictly true though is it? You can take sov quite easily if you know what you're doing and time things right.
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Myles Aarne
Amarrican Ground Forces
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
22
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:53:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Myles Aarne wrote:This.
It's why you see EVE Online battles with a couple of thousand players involved.
Not strictly true though is it? You can take sov quite easily if you know what you're doing and time things right.
Yes/no.
If your opponent is of limited size or restricted to particular time zones, then you can play with timers that require your opponent to use "alarm clock ops." But from what I saw of the big alliances that isn't as much of an issue.
Timer games and will to fight can also play a big role in those parts of null sec that are (permanently) under NPC control. Rote Kapelle just kicked the butt of a much larger alliance in Syndicate and took their moons because the larger alliance wouldn't fight. |
Myles Aarne
Amarrican Ground Forces
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
22
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:55:00 -
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Caveat lictor:
It's been a while since I worried about null sec sov games. I come and go from EVE, and during my most recent stint I was all about the faction warfare PVP. That's one of the things I love about DUST 514: instant PVP. I am not that good at it, but it's what I love.  |
Phoenix Arakyd
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:56:00 -
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When are you bitches gonna unblue each other? |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.12.17 22:12:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:When are you bitches gonna unblue each other?
We're best buddies, we're in love and we're firmly in bed with each other along with some of our new Dust friends too.
Mittens and Monty are too good drinking buddies for us to unblue each other after all we've been through and done for each other too.
I think you're clearly in one of those red alliances who don't like our special relationship. Are you in -A- by any chance? or ex NC.? Ex BoB maybe? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.12.17 23:10:00 -
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As I was looking for the alliance of the corp I'll be joining (from a friend who got me into this stuff- the alliance is tribal band, if you're wondering) I discovered something completely amazing-
zombie ninja space bears. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.12.17 23:53:00 -
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:Commissar: Pubbies. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.12.17 23:58:00 -
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Just note some of these player 'empires' took years to build which is why some eve online players don't like dust bunnies, they're afraid well take that away from them and they'd be powerless to stop us.
Fortunately that isnt the case. |
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:24:00 -
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Another Question
Why is there seem to be uncontrolled areas on this map? Whats the reason for that? |
tastzlike chicken
ROGUE SPADES
59
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:48:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Another Question
Why is there seem to be uncontrolled areas on this map? Whats the reason for that?
0.0 space (security rating) is up for player sovereignty. Some 0.0 is held by non player corps (like the ones in DUST) and not up for player territorial control.
Empire Space is "owned" by the major empires and also not up for territorial control; these areas have security status above 0.0. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:55:00 -
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i don't care who I'm shooting. Amarran FW chumps are the same as TEST/GEWN tags as far as I care. I decide my loyalty in DUST the same way as I determine my Loyalty in EVE. He who pays me and doesn't feed me too much **** is golden. everyone else is a potential target.
if you stop paying me, you become just another chump. If the guy i was shooting last week starts paying me, he gets my loyalty.
I really don't care if i'm shooting for TEST/GEWN or shooting at them. I just wanna shoot someone. |
Myles Aarne
Amarrican Ground Forces
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
22
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:50:00 -
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IIRC, DUST 514 will initially be set on Temperate planets with several districts per planet (I don't remember if Barren planets will initially have DUST 514 districts, but I think they will be later). Some temperate planets don't have DUST 514 districts (e.g., the capital of the Amarr empire, Amarr Prime, won't have combat on it). But most will.
Here's a list of planet distribution. K-space is "known space", which includes high sec, low sec, and null sec star systems. W-space is wormhole space. DUST 514 will probably have its biggest eventual impact in the player-controlled parts of null sec and in the faction warfare parts of low sec space, where control of the districts on the ground will affect system sovereignty.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Planet
Yah, that IS a lot of planets.  |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.12.19 22:35:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:i don't care who I'm shooting. Amarran FW chumps are the same as TEST/GEWN tags as far as I care. I decide my loyalty in DUST the same way as I determine my Loyalty in EVE. He who pays me and doesn't feed me too much **** is golden. everyone else is a potential target.
if you stop paying me, you become just another chump. If the guy i was shooting last week starts paying me, he gets my loyalty.
I really don't care if i'm shooting for TEST/GEWN or shooting at them. I just wanna shoot someone.
Actually, no you won't.
You'll shoot at whoever Quickgloves tells you to shoot. You're not a solo merc who works for himself, you work for the corp and follow their agenda.
You're clearly not up to scratch on your EVE info either or you'd know that TEST and GEWN are not our respective tags in EVE, for a start we use CONDI
Though we will be using GEWN in Dust under Immobile Infantry. |
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