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xprotoman23
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Posted - 2012.12.16 17:56:00 -
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side arm sharpshooter should extend their effective range. |
Dissonant Zan
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Posted - 2012.12.16 17:57:00 -
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They need to be able to be charged while sprinting as well |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.16 17:57:00 -
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also with a dashing ability |
StrafeN AnD HeadShotN
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:02:00 -
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What we need is commando |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:02:00 -
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It has already been stated that there is going to be the ability to charge and run at the same time in an upcoming update.
Dashing would feel to commando like for me personally this might be a fix if they are still to weak after the ability to run is updated. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:03:00 -
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Nova Machete. I could dig it. |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:04:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:side arm sharpshooter should extend their effective range.
Not to troll but this would not work due to it being on a percent base. The effective range is 0 meters, so any percentage increase to 0 is still 0. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:08:00 -
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I wasted so many skill points maxing out Nova Knifes, thinking there would be an SP wipe coming. Silly me 
Nova knifes need a lot of love.
Oh. And can I please get a giant hammer? The dropsuit could totally handle it. I just want to smash someones face in please ^_^ |
Dissonant Zan
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:10:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I wasted so many skill points maxing out Nova Knifes, thinking there would be an SP wipe coming. Silly me Nova knifes need a lot of love. Oh. And can I please get a giant hammer? The dropsuit could totally handle it. I just want to smash someones face in please ^_^
Grav Hammer? |
xprotoman23
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:11:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:also with a dashing ability
running nova knives with a dash ability and militia shotgun  |
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G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:14:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:G-SLicK wrote:also with a dashing ability running nova knives with a dash ability and militia shotgun
add a grappling hook and you sir will have to best fit ever in a game |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:24:00 -
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They also need to be able to hit at 0m distance which they curren't don't (At least not all the time). Hooking on an enemy futher reduces their effectiveness. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:31:00 -
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Adding range to Nova Knives would basically turn them into Shotguns. Not sure if there's any real value in doing that.
They need a buff, but I wouldn't say range is what needs buffing.
-Stimulants need to actually affect Knives (according to player testing I've read about, they currently don't)
-Knives need to NOT require a manual charge (auto-charge after each strike), OR you need to be able to charge while sprinting.
-A damage buff is almost certainly a good idea.
-Melee skill needs to buff Nova Knives damage as well as standard melee damage.
-Base charge time is too high and could use at least a slight reduction. Even with maxed skills, they're too slow.
That last one may not be needed, depending how much of a buff the other elements are given. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2012.12.16 18:36:00 -
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Came across my first Nova Knifer yesterday. Had a sqaudie warn me that one was comin' from behind - so I turn around and he was already in melee range so I do what any good fattie does - fired liked crazy. He avoids the majority of my untapped shots, so my thoughts is as I'm reloading and my sidearm is out of ammo from pervious fights - I'm a dead fattie. He slashes around, and I dance and to my shcok - avoided 3 of his attacks, reloaded, and finished him off.
So I'd say the knife definitely needs a slight range buff if it's to be an effective weapon. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:19:00 -
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Some skills mods in eve had a double bonus, what if melee training did +10% to basic and +5% to nova knife damage.
The stimulants should also affect the knife.
For range, why not a melee reach skill, 10-20% per level. Even at double range nova knife reach is less then the much shotgun.
We could also have a skill to increase melee swing speed, for basic and uncharged nova knife swipes. A skill that reduces the stamina used per swipe would be similar to the more ammo skill other weapons have. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:25:00 -
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nova samari sword |
Tbone322
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:31:00 -
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slap26 wrote:nova samari sword
I have yet to be killed by a nova knifer, and I die a lot lol The knife definitely needs some love, just so long as lag doesn't turn it into a better option than most of the guns (I'm looking at you MAG lol) |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.16 20:10:00 -
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Tbone322 wrote:slap26 wrote:nova samari sword I have yet to be killed by a nova knifer, and I die a lot lol The knife definitely needs some love, just so long as lag doesn't turn it into a better option than most of the guns (I'm looking at you MAG lol)
We need some Shurikens.
Hides knifing only grims ribbons........I have no idea what you mean.
I do have a few grims from sidearm only kills. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.16 20:19:00 -
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If the knife can be charged while sprinting next build, that would eliminate the need for increased range. However, the base charge time is too low for the standard nova knife. The Ishukone nova knife is ok with its current base charge time.
But when it comes to skill books, I notice that their bonuses don't seem to be applied or effecting the charge times. I have nova knife operations to level 5 and all the nova knife variants are still charging at their base charge time rate. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.16 20:22:00 -
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Tbone322 wrote:slap26 wrote:nova samari sword I have yet to be killed by a nova knifer, and I die a lot lol The knife definitely needs some love, just so long as lag doesn't turn it into a better option than most of the guns (I'm looking at you MAG lol)
That's because there are not that many knifers like me out there. The weapon is currently a niche only weapon for those seeking a challenge. |
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Selinate deux
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.16 20:35:00 -
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Dissonant Zan wrote:They need to be able to be charged while sprinting as well
We need to be able to do a lot more things while sprinting.
Starting with reloading.... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.12.16 22:26:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Nova Machete. I could dig it.
Minmatar version of a nova knife: all it is is a machete. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.16 22:55:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:Dissonant Zan wrote:They need to be able to be charged while sprinting as well We need to be able to do a lot more things while sprinting. Starting with reloading....
How do you reload a nova knife? |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:08:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Selinate deux wrote:Dissonant Zan wrote:They need to be able to be charged while sprinting as well We need to be able to do a lot more things while sprinting. Starting with reloading.... How do you reload a nova knife?
Reloading a Nova Knife only applies to the special Jovian Toxin Nova Knife which actually contains a micro fuller groove along the knife allowing a cartage to dispense chemical compounds damaging to the neurons of a Mercs battle clone.
(Note: the above information, while kind of cool IMO, is real only within the lore of D514 not the actual game... at least, so far  ) |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:10:00 -
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Dissonant Zan wrote:They need to be able to be charged while sprinting as well
True, and thankfully confirmed as a planned feature.  |
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