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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.14 17:36:00 -
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New Eden doesn't have permadeath by virtue of the fact that the players in that galaxy are clones of their original bodies and thus wake up in a new body when they die. But I see what you mean. Here are some examples to back up what the OP is talking about.
1. Clones cost ISK. In Dust 514, your clone in the merc quarters is your main clone. It's the same quality clone that Eve Online capsuleers use. And it's expensive. But you don't use it for battle. That's why you use the cheap ones every time you go into battle. You know, those hastily put together clones that start to degrade and break down after 24 hours and probably don't have any of the familiar features your main clone has. Thus they are cheap... if you avoid losing them so often. But when large scale battles take place in null-sec space between two of the most powerful alliances in New Eden, suddenly losing hundreds of clones in a single match starts to feel like an unwanted credit card bill that you are 14 days late on. Now imagine one day, ten years from now, when Dust 514 is fully immersed in the Eve Online universe where your main clone risks being killed inside the safety of your own station in 0.0 space when an enemy alliance comes pummeling against your station that you helped build.
2. That warbarge ain't cheap. Your warbarge. You know, that ship in space that carries billions of ISK worth of equipment including multiple MCCs that cost 125,000,000 ISK a piece alone not including installations that you need for deployment, the number of clones you carry, the amount of infantry gear you need to supply your mates. If your Eve Online friends are not able to defend it or if your team is not able to stop the opposing mercs from using the Skyfire Battery against it, then you lost the game. Bad enough a single merc has to worry about funding his own gear. Imagine a corp director facing the realization that he just lost billions of ISK worth of assets in a single day.
3. Destruction Breeds Creation. In Eve Online, every ship, every module, and every piece of ammunition is manufactured by the players. Except for the modules that have the word "Civilian" as their prefix (almost no one bothers with them as they are useless). If a ship is destroyed, the pilot seeks out a new ship which is built by another player who bought the minerals from yet another player who mined them from asteroids using a ship he bought from... you guessed it... another player. No one is going to make any money if people don't lose their ship or not have to replenish them. Dust 514 could be like that. After all, you will be affecting planets that have access to resources that Eve players need. Just take a look at what is needed to produce a single POS in Eve. Imagine the same for your gear or that of your opponent.
4. It forces you to be careful with your choices. You don't like that concept? Well, Hello Kitty Online is that way.--------> |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2012.12.14 21:05:00 -
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Crm234 wrote: A free to play model needs a huge playerbase and corps are never the answer to that.
Maybe in other games you would be correct. But this is DUST. Corps are needed if you want to make a name for yourself. Besides, most mmo games focus on the social aspect of gameplay. Since DUST will be entering the mmo stage soonGäó I can see that corps will be the norm. Some players will not like it, but that is just their preference. Therefore, it's none of my concern if you don't like it. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.14 21:24:00 -
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@Crm234
Oh take your pessimism somewhere else. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2012.12.14 21:39:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@Crm234
Oh take your pessimism somewhere else. all that saids is that you are just as concerned about the same things ,but afraid to face the reality of it and cant counter that with a typical eve player response. Im not going to take any more space in this thread so you dont have to worry and everyone from eve will hit the like button on your post anyway.s to make you feel better.
ok, now I sense a troll. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2012.12.15 00:52:00 -
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Everyone, please ignore Mr. Crm over here. You are just feeding a troll. |
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