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Posted - 2012.12.13 16:46:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:how about profiles on your individual members instead? u are ranked number one after all. but we'll post the results of the internal tourney if u like.
Why bother? You will just leave out one of the best teams and then put zion TCD in 3rd for no reason what-so-ever.
You want to be taken seriously? Do real evaluations |
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Posted - 2012.12.13 17:39:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:Free Beers wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:how about profiles on your individual members instead? u are ranked number one after all. but we'll post the results of the internal tourney if u like. Why bother? You will just leave out one of the best teams and then put zion TCD in 3rd for no reason what-so-ever. You want to be taken seriously? Do real evaluations dont really understand why u dislike Zion TCD so much. finished top 4 and lost to the runner-up. also is one corp whereas ROFL is an alliance. keep in mind rankings are fluid and will change every 2 wks. in the end we deal in facts not popularity.
I like Zionshad, it wasn't an attack against him or his corp. I was making a point. Do you know the matches they won/lost since then and who was invovled? The tourny was almost a month ago and a lot has changed since them. How you didn't put SyNergy in top 5 is evidence enough that you dont know what you are talking about. They were put in a group with us and that shouldn't be held against them. Do you know who they battled and won/lost to since the tourny?
Besides imperfects at the top you are just guessing at the rest. Even I couldn't give you a top 10 because we only know about who we play against and their skill/tatics. So maybe you should go back and put a big dislaimer thats says
"I made this all up and your guess is as good as mine" |
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Posted - 2012.12.13 18:20:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:agreed, the rankings are rather F.U.B.A.R. I mean it seems like you just picked out of a hat more or less and went with it. Personally i'd drop SI out of the top 3, maybe top 5, and drop Zion out of the top 5 hands down. If we could correct, i'd go something like
1. IMP
2. PFBz
3. SyN
4. SI
5. WTF
6. Zion
7.
8. Tritan
9. Crimewave
10.
i couldn't even list a worthy 7 or 10 to be honest; as ranking to me means they are x-#'s best corp in the game. If anyone would like to know how i came to this conclusion, i'll lengthen the post. In future for ranking DustMerc, you NEED to give explanations on reasoning (not 1 sentence bits).
To be fair about this you need to give detail or you are just guessing too. Let me save you the trouble though. Unless all the better corps fought each other best 2 out of 3 and had the isk to go all out then it doesn't matter.
I get it we all like rankings but there just isn't a point to do it without any sort of accuracy or consistancy |
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Posted - 2012.12.13 19:20:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:ur missing the point. we used as much measurable data from the tourney as we could and relied on opinions as secondary indicators becuz of bias. not ranking SI second is the kind of MAG fanboyism that needs to stop. they earned the right to be ranked #2 at this stage. not everyone is going to agree with any top 10 list. they really arent supposed to. games won/lost after the tourney are so subjective. no corps comes on here and says 'we just lost to _____' it just doesnt happen. and where is the proof of these horrible TCD losses btw? we received tons of emails about the rankings but not one tried to discredit them as a bad corp. in the end they arent static ratings they change a great deal.
we recognize the skill of the Imperfects and their #1 ranking but thats where it ends. their opinions on how to rank the bottom 9 corps means as much as anyone else.
SI is the 3rd best team we faced. I would put ROFL house and SyN above them. This is shared by all IMPs not just me.
The EU server ****** us up the more than SI. When we played them in the second/third matches it was evident that they were not the second best team.
Also there are a lot of newer/smaller corps with skill and you go and put STB and Betamax who didn't even compete in the tourny in.
Just be honest that you dont have a damn clue but want to put out a list to fulfill your need to be deemed important to the dust community. Well your content is **** and thats all you got. |
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Posted - 2012.12.13 19:57:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:imperfects 'guess' is more right than dustmerc 'guess'
We just go based on how they performed in corp battles. We dont deal in bullshit. I wouldn't take it personal 
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Posted - 2012.12.13 20:28:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:Berserker007 wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:ur missing the point. we used as much measurable data from the tourney as we could and relied on opinions as secondary indicators becuz of bias. not ranking SI second is the kind of MAG fanboyism that needs to stop. they earned the right to be ranked #2 at this stage. not everyone is going to agree with any top 10 list. they really arent supposed to. games won/lost after the tourney are so subjective. no corps comes on here and says 'we just lost to _____' it just doesnt happen. and where is the proof of these horrible TCD losses btw? we received tons of emails about the rankings but not one tried to discredit them as a bad corp. in the end they arent static ratings they change a great deal.
we recognize the skill of the Imperfects and their #1 ranking but thats where it ends. their opinions on how to rank the bottom 9 corps means as much as anyone else. Firts, what i ranked isnt the imp opiinion but my own; but like beers said, SI was the 3rd best team we faced in the tourny. Also this "data" you have is complete bull unless u post it, otherwise its just words. As my data of playing is more accurate tyen yours. Coprs have been playing before and now after the tourny yet you dont seem to make note of that; as people have joined and left corps which also should impact ranking. So in end, your ranks are 1/2 a$$ed w/o proper intel, data and consideration on how teams actual did per game in the tourny (as only looked at win/loss), and how do in regular battles (pub/corp) well if the IMP said it than it must be right  ur opinion doesnt get a bonus because of ur corp tag. sorry.
Maybe you should have asked the corp that knows a bit about skilled players and tatics. Even better you could have ask in a post for corps to send in a lit of corp battles an results. Ever think of that? I mean the winners would always send in a list so in the end you can get a pretty good picture of things. Oh but thats real data and its not that important to you. Opinons of certain people is the way to go it seems.
I mean you listed corps that didn't even participate in the tournament? Do you have information of them beating corps since then that the rest of us dont have? What about the rest of the corps?
I talk to corp leaders all the time and know who plays who and the results on these matches. Its not my place to give that info out but if you made a list based on real information it would look nothing like the one you put up there.
You picked the order then bascially made up reasons to justifiy them. Nothing more.
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