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Legionay
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:18:00 -
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Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:19:00 -
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They're getting recoil and maybe a tiny nerf to certain weapons - but that's it. |
Legionay
Doomheim
39
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:23:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:They're getting recoil and maybe a tiny nerf to certain weapons - but that's it.
That's it!?
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Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:25:00 -
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Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed.
There are several threads already dedicated to this. Look 'em up and post in them.
That way I only have to destroy your logic in one or two threads. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:27:00 -
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Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed.
It is an AR so it does what is meant to do. |
Legionay
Doomheim
39
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:27:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. That way I only have to destroy your logic in one or two threads.
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Bhor Derri
Legion of Eden
95
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:27:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. There are several threads already dedicated to this. Look 'em up and post in them. That way I only have to destroy your logic in one or two threads.
May I have your attention please? This |
Legionay
Doomheim
39
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:33:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. It is an AR so it does what is meant to do.
You could apply that logic to a weapon named "Nuke Gun" that nukes the entire map with 1 shot.
"It is an NG so it does what is meant to do"
That's not a reason for it not to be nerfed. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:34:00 -
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lol @ this QQ thread |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:36:00 -
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The key is cover.
Bait them so they come in close. Then, OHK with a shotti or rip them apart with a HMG.
Never, ever, ever run out in an open area, especially by yourself. You are just a big target for AR's, snipers and roaming LAV's.
Weave in and out of structures and keep a wall/mountain close to one side.
AR's are just fine, adapt your play style to defeat them. |
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NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:37:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:lol @ this QQ thread
+1 |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:37:00 -
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I recommend this thread be locked |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:38:00 -
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Legionay wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. It is an AR so it does what is meant to do. You could apply that logic to a weapon named "Nuke Gun" that nukes the entire map with 1 shot. "It is an NG so it does what is meant to do" That's not a reason for it not to be nerfed.
The word say "Nuke". If the team makes enough points to earn that NUKE then why not? |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
Doomheim
83
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:41:00 -
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DUST 514 - game with countless possibilities, and one weapon that fits all circumstances. Normally we should constantly convince people on this forum that this game is easy. We do not do this, because it's a game of one weapon, one suit and one strategy(for now - hopefully something will change soon). |
Legionay
Doomheim
39
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:45:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Legionay wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. It is an AR so it does what is meant to do. You could apply that logic to a weapon named "Nuke Gun" that nukes the entire map with 1 shot. "It is an NG so it does what is meant to do" That's not a reason for it not to be nerfed. The word say "Nuke". If the team makes enough points to earn that NUKE then why not?
because it would be overpowered and the game would lose its ability to be enjoyable. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1900
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:47:00 -
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They have been for a very very long time now. There's a reason 9/10 times you're going to see the top K/D guys rocking their Duvolles and Geks and Gorewrecks oh my. ARs are way too easy for low skilled players to use effectively, and way too easy for high skilled players to abuse. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:54:00 -
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Legionay wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Legionay wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. It is an AR so it does what is meant to do. You could apply that logic to a weapon named "Nuke Gun" that nukes the entire map with 1 shot. "It is an NG so it does what is meant to do" That's not a reason for it not to be nerfed. The word say "Nuke". If the team makes enough points to earn that NUKE then why not? because it would be overpowered and the game would lose its ability to be enjoyable.
Or would it? Kill the enemies, earn the points before they do and blow them up.
The only thing that was trully OP here was the Missile launchers. Other than that everything can be tweaked here and there. As 843 Pano mentioned earlier, its up to the players to let something be OP. Try different tactics, earn & upgrade the skill book and be OP yourself.
Most players in this build should have over 6 mil skill points by now, I dont expect a new comer to roll the high skill players over. not saying that it is not possible, but the player has to be tactical. Not cry over items that killed them. Someone has to earn the skill point to use a Duvole. So its not exactly his fault that he is using it and has the skill points and the ISK to do so |
DEADPOOL5241
Doomheim
212
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:59:00 -
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Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed.
Let me guess you're the guy that likes to run in open areas, you don't like to hug walls or cover up very much do you?
AR in every single game made are ALWAYS the top weapons. Gee I wonder why the Army, Navy, Marines use them so much
Also stop using the word Nerf, you nerf herder. Players like you ask for Nerfs for everything because you don't know how to play and how to actually have a gun fight.
Only way to get long range is to spec into Sharpshooter, but if you do that with most of the weapons they to will have long range.
Quick killing time.. dude all weapons spec'd into lvl 5 of that weapon, weaponry and other skills will make ALL the weapons quick kills, lets see HMG lvl 5, Mass Driver lvl 5.. heck a pistol lvl 5 with sharpshooter and weapon proficiency lvl 5 is brutal but you don't see any of us whining or making QQ threads about it..
Get good or get dead.. I think you have the later part down already |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:01:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. Let me guess you're the guy that likes to run in open areas, you don't like to hug walls or cover up very much do you? AR in every single game made are ALWAYS the top weapons. Gee I wonder why the Army, Navy, Marines use them so much Also stop using the word Nerf, you nerf herder. Players like you ask for Nerfs for everything because you don't know how to play and how to actually have a gun fight. Only way to get long range is to spec into Sharpshooter, but if you do that with most of the weapons they to will have long range. Quick killing time.. dude all weapons spec'd into lvl 5 of that weapon, weaponry and other skills will make ALL the weapons quick kills, lets see HMG lvl 5, Mass Driver lvl 5.. heck a pistol lvl 5 with sharpshooter and weapon proficiency lvl 5 is brutal but you don't see any of us whining or making QQ threads about it.. Get good or get dead.. I think you have the later part down already
This +1 |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:08:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed. Let me guess you're the guy that likes to run in open areas, you don't like to hug walls or cover up very much do you? AR in every single game made are ALWAYS the top weapons. Gee I wonder why the Army, Navy, Marines use them so much Also stop using the word Nerf, you nerf herder. Players like you ask for Nerfs for everything because you don't know how to play and how to actually have a gun fight. Only way to get long range is to spec into Sharpshooter, but if you do that with most of the weapons they to will have long range. Quick killing time.. dude all weapons spec'd into lvl 5 of that weapon, weaponry and other skills will make ALL the weapons quick kills, lets see HMG lvl 5, Mass Driver lvl 5.. heck a pistol lvl 5 with sharpshooter and weapon proficiency lvl 5 is brutal but you don't see any of us whining or making QQ threads about it.. Get good or get dead.. I think you have the later part down already This +1
+1 LOL
Btw stop shooting me while i'm capping an objective. Wait till i'm done and have a gun fight and bring the MT guns too LOL |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:18:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:+1 LOL
Btw stop shooting me while i'm capping an objective. Wait till i'm done and have a gun fight and bring the MT guns too LOL
Meh! I am a "No-Factor" and got no gun game. The only times I can kill anyone is when they are hacking or if they are standing still or I am in my Sigaris behind the red lines or with my REs or with my proximity mines or with my shotguns or with my HMG. So im gonna wait till you start hacking to engage you LOL.
Just my 0.02 Cheap Kill LOL
PS: MTs are fun |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:20:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:NAV HIV wrote:+1 LOL
Btw stop shooting me while i'm capping an objective. Wait till i'm done and have a gun fight and bring the MT guns too LOL Meh! I am a "No-Factor" and got no gun game. The only times I can kill anyone is when they are hacking or if they are standing still or I am in my Sigaris behind the red lines or with my REs or with my proximity mines or with my shotguns or with my HMG. So im gonna wait till you start hacking to engage you LOL. Just my 0.02 Cheap Kill LOL PS: MTs are fun
Same here! No gun game! Thats why i wanted to practice and learn |
Michael Cratar
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2012.12.12 22:31:00 -
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Legionay wrote:Quite long range, quick killing time, zoomed in scope, no recoil, no scope wobble EVER.
I hope these damn overpowered things get nerfed.
Let the buthurt flow through you. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
70
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Posted - 2012.12.12 22:37:00 -
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I think they're fine but just throwing out there a possible change: More intense muzzle flash? |
Gemini Reynolds
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2012.12.12 22:39:00 -
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Legionay wrote: no scope wobble EVER.
Falsehood is false. My scope wobbles all of the time. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.12.12 22:42:00 -
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The main reason I think AR feel OP is that stacking Penalties on Mods are broken so people use Multiple Complex mods. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
391
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Posted - 2012.12.12 22:45:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:The main reason I think AR feel OP is that stacking Penalties on Mods are broken so people use Multiple Complex mods.
its this plus the no-recoil thing. having a very high ROF with the ability to put all rounds on traget have made the AR the go to weapon for nearly all ranges of combat with no downsides.
when ccp adds stacking penalties and recoil things are going to be much different. |
Korval Raa
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.12 23:15:00 -
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Its taken a bit of time, but I've finally skilled my AR into something that doesn't take a clip and a half to bring someone down. I still get my A$$ handed to me by Heavies and occasionally Snipers, but I'm still trying to figure out how one guy was 1 shotting me with a scrambler pistol. AR's, Heavies, etc. have never one shotted me, but a scram pistol from quite a distance can? Eh, maybe I've been looking at the wrong weapon system. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.12.12 23:18:00 -
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Korval Raa wrote:Its taken a bit of time, but I've finally skilled my AR into something that doesn't take a clip and a half to bring someone down. I still get my A$$ handed to me by Heavies and occasionally Snipers, but I'm still trying to figure out how one guy was 1 shotting me with a scrambler pistol. AR's, Heavies, etc. have never one shotted me, but a scram pistol from quite a distance can? Eh, maybe I've been looking at the wrong weapon system.
Head shots! |
Korval Raa
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.12 23:21:00 -
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Sorry mate, no one is THAT lucky with headshots, and not at a distance where you only see the enemy icon. Either way it doesn't matter just pointing out that AR's are definitely not OP, just need to skill up. :) |
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