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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.07 23:37:00 -
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Everybody everywhere is only specing out for prototype ARs, dropsuits and shield modules, along with jumping around like rabbits. Why clone existing games? |
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Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.07 23:39:00 -
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Go away. Seriously, shut up, pack up your ps3, throw it out a window and go away. |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.12.07 23:42:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Everybody everywhere is only specing out for prototype ARs, dropsuits and shield modules, along with jumping around like rabbits. Why clone existing games?
lol so what are ppl suppose to skill into good sir? having trouble trackin a jumpin target? really? can only bunny hop like twice come on |
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Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.12.07 23:55:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Everybody everywhere is only specing out for prototype ARs, dropsuits and shield modules, along with jumping around like rabbits. Why clone existing games? lol so what are ppl suppose to skill into good sir? having trouble trackin a jumpin target? really? can only bunny hop like twice come on
I think tanks and heavy is working good for you Mavado. lol
Me personally I like my armor armor/rep mass driver build.
Now seriously I think this is like this because it is not balanced for AR yet give it time it is still in beta. Every build has a particular flavor to it, this build is AR/shields. CCP knows how we feel about it. The AR is getting some kick to it soon, and the armor will have a little bit more to help it soon to. Armor might not really need it to much IMO. Just give it time fellow merc give it some time. |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.12.07 23:58:00 -
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Sniper rifle: boring Mass driver: not so versatile, difficult to use, small magazine. Laser rifle: great at longer ranges, sucks at close range Shotgun: great at close range, sucks at everything else. Assault rifle: good at all ranges, no real drawbacks right now.
Other weapons are sidearms or AV weapons. What do you expect people to spec into right now? CCP said they would tweak the AR's recoil and maybe range.
If there wasn't the ability to "bunnyhop", then it would qualify as as a Battlefield or Killzone clone by your logic. |
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Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2012.12.07 23:58:00 -
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I'll agree with the OP that there's not really a reason to spec in to anything other than AR's and assault suits. And I'll agree that everybody bunny hops like a bunch of idiots. That's not CCP's fault. So what exactly are you saying other than those two things that we already know? |
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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.08 00:00:00 -
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I know some people who are fairly deadly with those pistols noob tubes and militia shotguns. |
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Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2012.12.08 00:04:00 -
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Tzaar Bomba wrote:Go away. Seriously, shut up, pack up your ps3, throw it out a window and go away. ^ this |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.12.08 00:06:00 -
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Goat of Dover wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Everybody everywhere is only specing out for prototype ARs, dropsuits and shield modules, along with jumping around like rabbits. Why clone existing games? lol so what are ppl suppose to skill into good sir? having trouble trackin a jumpin target? really? can only bunny hop like twice come on I think tanks and heavy is working good for you Mavado. lol Me personally I like my armor armor/rep mass driver build. Now seriously I think this is like this because it is not balanced for AR yet give it time it is still in beta. Every build has a particular flavor to it, this build is AR/shields. CCP knows how we feel about it. The AR is getting some kick to it soon, and the armor will have a little bit more to help it soon to. Armor might not really need it to much IMO. Just give it time fellow merc give it some time.
dont use heavy and dont use my tank in pubs unless the enemy drops theirs or lav spam needs to be taken care of other than that i run infantry assault golden ***** or AR |
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Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.12.08 00:12:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Goat of Dover wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Everybody everywhere is only specing out for prototype ARs, dropsuits and shield modules, along with jumping around like rabbits. Why clone existing games? lol so what are ppl suppose to skill into good sir? having trouble trackin a jumpin target? really? can only bunny hop like twice come on I think tanks and heavy is working good for you Mavado. lol Me personally I like my armor armor/rep mass driver build. Now seriously I think this is like this because it is not balanced for AR yet give it time it is still in beta. Every build has a particular flavor to it, this build is AR/shields. CCP knows how we feel about it. The AR is getting some kick to it soon, and the armor will have a little bit more to help it soon to. Armor might not really need it to much IMO. Just give it time fellow merc give it some time. dont use heavy and dont use my tank in pubs unless the enemy drops theirs or lav spam needs to be taken care of other than that i run infantry assault golden ***** or AR
My apologize if i offended. I thought I seen you running heavy in a couple pubs one time. And the tank was just cause I know you are you guys main tanker. |
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.08 03:14:00 -
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You haven't been here long enough to know the game mechanics, have you? |
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Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.12.08 03:41:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:I know some people who are fairly deadly with those pistols noob tubes and militia shotguns. All u need is a pistol ![Smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.12.08 04:46:00 -
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I just watched a Heavy trying to bunnyhop today against my Shotgun Assault.
Surprisingly enough, it wasn't that effective.
His decision to swap out the HMG for his SMG probably helped my situation a little. |
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KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.08 05:22:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:I'll agree with the OP that there's not really a reason to spec in to anything other than AR's and assault suits. And I'll agree that everybody bunny hops like a bunch of idiots. That's not CCP's fault. So what exactly are you saying other than those two things that we already know?
True story. I switch to a garbage assault fit sometimes when hvy ain't the best option and I can still get plenty of kills with a standard AR and militia gear. |
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Michael Cratar
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.08 12:23:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Everybody everywhere is only specing out for prototype ARs, dropsuits and shield modules, along with jumping around like rabbits. Why clone existing games?
Man all this but hurt. I wonder if CCP can can this stuff and sell it? |
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Django Quik
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Posted - 2012.12.08 12:31:00 -
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You seriously have no idea about this game, do you? Do you realise what a beta is? Do you understand the big picture of Dust 514 and what it's intended to become? It will be nothing like MAG, not even a bit. |
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Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.08 13:12:00 -
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i do remember Halo having no speed and your character had this weightlessness about him, as far as mag, the only thing i see that has been cloned and (also removed once) is lag. beyond that theres no comparison other than the games have objectives. |
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Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2012.12.08 16:46:00 -
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Usually Bunny hoping and Dolphin diving is used in past games as a exploit because at the time devs couldn't code movement but could show the animation, it wasn't a type of game.
Bunny hoping in Dust is more a symptom of the high hit points, and no cover what so ever at the moment. I promise you if everyone died in two shots you wouldn't see a lot of bunny hoping. Just more complaining "its pointless to buy Proto gear and boosters". In addition if we didnt all need BFG to kill each other or 20 second continuous fire to kill someone or their shields would regen to 100 percent there would be more diversity in fittings.
Also if the aiming versus blindfiring was fixed and fluid, its hard to Bunny hop when your in magnifying glass mode.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.12.08 17:37:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:You seriously have no idea about this game, do you? Do you realise what a beta is? Do you understand the big picture of Dust 514 and what it's intended to become? It will be nothing like MAG, not even a bit. ^This. What we have at the moment is a very small part of the bigger picture. |
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Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.12.08 17:42:00 -
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Basicly i dont think the amination is right yet hopefully it will be fixed, in most cases the bunny hop is a result of panic i know i only do it in 2 situations, one if iam caught off guard or if i need to reload i dont claim its skillful what so ever but it is effective for now,
I think movement in general is also aiding this feeling of halo you describe while in fact the game is closer to battlefeild the lack of acceleration in movement basicly when you put stick in position you are going full speed alot of more emersive game like Battlefield BC2 (best core gamplay in my opinion) had a second or so when you are gaining speed this stops the effectivness of short left to right strafing,
As for the AR it seems to be broken its not op as such but rather not acting like a AR its currently got too good hip fire cone of fire while firing non stop or moving if the hip accuracy was decreaased it would force people to line up shots in ads rather than spraying in gerenral direction as you can use now to accuratly hit |
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.08 18:04:00 -
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Assault is your basic infantry,which in every single battle throughout human history,has always had more troops than any other class.It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to have 10/16 snipers on your team at the start of a match,would it?
Assault infantry is the backbone of any army,plain and simple.Now when the player count increases,I'm sure that we'll see a lot more variety on the battlefield. |
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Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.09 03:33:00 -
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Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.09 05:26:00 -
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Nastiest people with the pistol are Reflex and William H., that I've seen so far. But then again, not a lot of people spec into pistols like that. |
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Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.09 06:19:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Everybody everywhere is only specing out for prototype ARs, dropsuits and shield modules, along with jumping around like rabbits. Why clone existing games? lol so what are ppl suppose to skill into good sir? having trouble trackin a jumpin target? really? can only bunny hop like twice come on
lolz I haven't any issues tracking a bunny hopping enemy of mine. In fact, I love it when they are hopping around because that's time away from them shooting at me. |
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Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2012.12.09 06:36:00 -
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too bad CCP cant just grow a sack and make their game instead of relying on noobs to tell them how to "balance" everything |
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