DUST Search - quafe event times suggestion for CCP

Needless Sacermendor wrote:

I'd have to say the same about your reply ... you obviously didn't read my post properly.

I didn't say you had demanded anything ... I suggested you make an alternate post.

I also made no mention of CCP data providing information on people's work schedules ... what I said was that they know the best times to run these events to get the best spectrum of results they want.

This isn't about "benefiting the players" it's about testing a game in development and we all want to see it released sooner rather than later. Scheduling events to suit a minority of players would require extensions of each event over a longer period to get the same quantity of data thus prolonging the development process.

Finally I'm not sure what post history has to do with the relevance of this thread ... but I do have something constructive for you ... If you want to 'request' event scheduling be adjusted for future events or maybe provide 'feedback' on previous event schedules that didn't suit you then there is an entire forum section entitled 'Feedback & Requests' ... otherwise this is a general discussion and I've pointed out why CCP schedule events to suit themselves and not the testers.

Edited : Also your thread has been on page 1 for over 4 hours and the only responses have been an irrelevant change of discussion and a like for my reply.

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charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2012.12.06 12:28:00 - [1] - Quote i am sure i am not alone in the community being a duster that has to work all weekend. please make some of the matches for the quafe event in the evening time so i and others in my same predicament have an opportunity to participate please. really anytime after 5:00 pm eastern time would be great for me and i think would be appreciated by more than just me.. if you are one of those mercs that needs evening matches make sure you post here so CCP knows how many need evening event times. thanks ccp
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.12.06 12:43:00 - [2] - Quote Why not just create a thread where everyone can post the time they want a battle and then demand CCP starts a battle for everyone at the time they stated. Battles will be timed by CCP ... they have all the data and know what time will provide the most or most valuable data they are looking for from this event. When you miss it ... don't forget to make a new post crying and stating you "told them to time it to suit you"
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2012.12.06 15:54:00 - [3] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Why not just create a thread where everyone can post the time they want a battle and then demand CCP starts a battle for everyone at the time they stated. Battles will be timed by CCP ... they have all the data and know what time will provide the most or most valuable data they are looking for from this event. When you miss it ... don't forget to make a new post crying and stating you "told them to time it to suit you" I assume this is troll post from you since it is obvious you didn't read my post. At no point did I demand anything. How exactly in the data CCP has will they know how many players must work this weekend and would be helped by there being some after noon times? The point of my post was to give CCP the data you somehow believe they already have of how many players would benefit from evening battle times. Furthermore if you look through my post history you will not see a single time I have "Cried" or demanded anything. Since this thread obviously doesn't pertain to you how about doing something constructive rather than trolling other peoples threads that are made to help the community and CCP gather the Max amount of information from their event and giving the Max number of players an opportunity to participate So looking through your previous posts I guess all the suggestions you have made were you crying and demanding things of CCP if my thread is that to you.
xMarauder Doomheim 139	Posted - 2012.12.06 16:31:00 - [4] - Quote charlesnette dalari wrote: i am sure i am not alone in the community being a duster that has to work all weekend. please make some of the matches for the quafe event in the evening time so i and others in my same predicament have an opportunity to participate please. really anytime after 5:00 pm eastern time would be great for me and i think would be appreciated by more than just me.. if you are one of those mercs that needs evening matches make sure you post here so CCP knows how many need evening event times. thanks ccp Better suggestion would be to be able to choose what the dropsuit is. In other words, choose whether its a heavy or scout or whatever you want the quafe dropsuits for.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.12.06 16:41:00 - [5] - Quote I'd have to say the same about your reply ... you obviously didn't read my post properly. I didn't say you had demanded anything ... I suggested you make an alternate post. I also made no mention of CCP data providing information on people's work schedules ... what I said was that they know the best times to run these events to get the best spectrum of results they want. This isn't about "benefiting the players" it's about testing a game in development and we all want to see it released sooner rather than later. Scheduling events to suit a minority of players would require extensions of each event over a longer period to get the same quantity of data thus prolonging the development process. Finally I'm not sure what post history has to do with the relevance of this thread ... but I do have something constructive for you ... If you want to 'request' event scheduling be adjusted for future events or maybe provide 'feedback' on previous event schedules that didn't suit you then there is an entire forum section entitled 'Feedback & Requests' ... otherwise this is a general discussion and I've pointed out why CCP schedule events to suit themselves and not the testers. Edited : Also your thread has been on page 1 for over 4 hours and the only responses have been an irrelevant change of discussion and a like for my reply.
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2012.12.07 00:14:00 - [6] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: I'd have to say the same about your reply ... you obviously didn't read my post properly. I didn't say you had demanded anything ... I suggested you make an alternate post. I also made no mention of CCP data providing information on people's work schedules ... what I said was that they know the best times to run these events to get the best spectrum of results they want. This isn't about "benefiting the players" it's about testing a game in development and we all want to see it released sooner rather than later. Scheduling events to suit a minority of players would require extensions of each event over a longer period to get the same quantity of data thus prolonging the development process. Finally I'm not sure what post history has to do with the relevance of this thread ... but I do have something constructive for you ... If you want to 'request' event scheduling be adjusted for future events or maybe provide 'feedback' on previous event schedules that didn't suit you then there is an entire forum section entitled 'Feedback & Requests' ... otherwise this is a general discussion and I've pointed out why CCP schedule events to suit themselves and not the testers. Edited : Also your thread has been on page 1 for over 4 hours and the only responses have been an irrelevant change of discussion and a like for my reply. Oh i see you are one of those Jekyl and Hyde trolls. you post a troll then when you are called on it you try and act like it wasnt a troll. Take some lessons from Regnum Dei he trolls and then has the balls to defend his troll with a further troll rather than the lame attempt at trying to convince someone your first post was something other than what it was. grow a pair then try trolling again. looks like your brain is as small as your pen is ( <--see what i did there?)since you write that as a Beta tester we are not supposed to enoy the game we are testing for CCP. We are simply to be mindless testers that need not enjoy the game or benefit from it in the form of entertainment value since that has no value to CCP in the Beta phase in determining if the general public will enjoy the game after release. Guess what? that benefit is our payment as beta testers since we don't get monetary recompense. As far as what post history has to do with things well i pretty much said it clearly in reply to you already. Let me spell it out slowly for you and say it a little differently this time and maybe you will get it. Its pretty hypocritical of you to criticize my thread for making a suggestion to CCP that I think would be beneficial to them and other players when you have many prior posts making suggestions for the exact same purpose. Lastly the reason this thread was posted in general rather than feedback/request is it was not feedback on the game nor a feature request related to the game itself but rather a suggestion for scheduling of an event so it is most appropriately posted in the general section. I could further tear apart your idiotic reply but I have grown bored with you. Now, jekyl or Hyde, whichever you will be in your next reply to this post I am done with you and this battle of wits since you are obviously fighting unarmed you mental midget. By the way my last couple sentences was a troll directed back at you for yours earlier yet I have the cahones to say that rather than cower from it since I am a man and not a confused mixed up little boy who hasn't quite figured out who he is yet.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.12.07 00:41:00 - [7] - Quote Lol, keep bumping your fail thread ... it still won't get any support. As for the name calling and derogatory or belittling comments ... some pretty childish behavior coming from a "man"
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.12.07 00:50:00 - [8] - Quote Needless did troll you a bit in his first comment - but it was so minor compared to the response you gave. It may of come with a bit of troll, but everything he says is true, and nothing you've said is. CCP owes you nothing, they have in front of them all the numbers of when people are on the most - and apparently it's the weekends, big shock. If you get screwed - so what, I got screwed in many a WoW event because I had other things to do - such is life, bro. If it's THAT important to you give someone your PSN and tell 'em to get the job done. Otherwise you're nothing but a troll yourself. To fight trolls, you use professionalism and facts - not name calling. Stoop to there level, you're one yourself. And trolls ftw. :D
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.12.07 01:26:00 - [9] - Quote Thank you SoTa ... granted my initial response was a bit off hand ... It's very tiring seeing so many posts of people wanting things done to suit them rather than for the better of the game or efficiency of its development. Sometimes it seems the best way to get the message across is in an abrupt manner.
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2012.12.07 12:57:00 - [10] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Needless did troll you a bit in his first comment - but it was so minor compared to the response you gave. It may of come with a bit of troll, but everything he says is true, and nothing you've said is. CCP owes you nothing, they have in front of them all the numbers of when people are on the most - and apparently it's the weekends, big shock. If you get screwed - so what, I got screwed in many a WoW event because I had other things to do - such is life, bro. If it's THAT important to you give someone your PSN and tell 'em to get the job done. Otherwise you're nothing but a troll yourself. To fight trolls, you use professionalism and facts - not name calling. Stoop to there level, you're one yourself. And trolls ftw. :D perhaps my response in return was a bit much for that i do apologize. what caused such a harsh response was i simply made a suggestion that it may be beneficial to others and ccp if there were evening event times and made a thread so if that is the case people can let ccp know. nowhere in my post do i say or even imply that i think ccp owes me anything or even that i expect them to make evening times simply to suit me. there is no way CCP can know everyones schedule in the future so this was an opportunity to let ccp know how many players would benefit from evening time slots. this knowledge actually could be beneficial to CCP as well if there happened to be a large number of testers that would have replied to my thread but i highly doubt they will now since the very first post was a needless troll (see what i did there even made myself laugh). if i miss the event oh well no biggie. i think these forums have lost a lot of participants exactly because of the kind of thing that happened in this thread due to needless. i made a thread that i thought would be helpful and i got trolled and then when i responded to the troll i got further bashed. this seems to happen alot in the forums and quite frankly i was so harsh in my final reply to try and show needless that perhaps being trolled in return is not so pleasant and hopefully he will think about it the next time he posts in another thread and if he wants respect he should either be a troll or not rather than trying to be both in the same thread. needless i dont know you. you dont know me. there is one way to learn about someone on these forums. look back at their post history. if you would have done that prior to your initial post you would have easily seen that i have never in the past asked for things simply to suit me or have posted things that are not for the purpose of furthering this game toward success. with that knowledge of my post history you would have known the troll was inappropriate if truly the reason you give SoTa for the troll was that you felt it necessary to be abrupt to get the point across that people want things done that dont further Dust's development or are detrimental to the efficiency of the process, so needless truce is being oferred from me to you further i apologize my reply troll was so harsh and i will give you the benefit of the doubt going forward that you are not a troll and this incident was caused by your passion for the game.

Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.12.07 14:52:00 - [11] - Quote Respect for your last reply ... as you said, had I scanned your previous posts I probably wouldn't have been so harsh, but in my defense I take each thread on its own merit and checking peoples history before replying to anything would be a bit much, though granted if I'm going to be harsh like that I might have a quick check in future. You're right, these forums have lost a lot of participants, I'd say partially due to the troll replies but also due to countless troll threads and irrelevant and down right dumb threads (not saying yours fell in those categories). I joined the beta around May before it was opened outside of the Eve subscribers and back then the forum was 99% constructive, then the console community joined and over time it's devolved into about a 75/25 % split in favor of the rubbish. I'm not bashing you or anyone in particular for joining from the console family, but sadly that's what's happened. I've even looked back at some of my post history since this thread and most of my posts have been constructive or helpful, though there are a few trolls, sometimes in obvious troll threads or even good ideas put forward in a selfish way (as in the vehicle recall thread, as I told him) or when there is a clear or obvious argument against the idea (though as you say, in those cases, a quick history check could be worth while). I honestly don't take any offense by what people say, it's like water off a ducks back as they say, sticks and stones and all that, I'm old enough to be past caring if someone dislikes me, move on, life does. But I do respect someone who can be the first to apologise ... hat tip for that ... and I too am sorry for providing a troll response where I could have just stripped it down to "weekends are more active and provide most data" No hard feelings ... but I'll still kill you if you're a red dot lol
Ludwig Van Beatdropin Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 195	Posted - 2012.12.07 16:02:00 - [12] - Quote Lets all hold hands and sing koom by yah.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.12.07 16:20:00 - [13] - Quote And thank you, SoTa, for being the catalyst that brought these two together + 1 And then -1 cause love < troll
Sandromin Hes Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 204	Posted - 2012.12.07 16:34:00 - [14] - Quote 1) They didn't state the time 2) They run on GMT, which means they'll do this later during the day in EST 3) They'll probably be doing this like 18 hours a day So no worries, more than likely we'll be able to participate at EST.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.12.07 23:53:00 - [15] - Quote charlesnette dalari wrote: i am sure i am not alone in the community being a duster that has to work all weekend. please make some of the matches for the quafe event in the evening time so i and others in my same predicament have an opportunity to participate please. really anytime after 5:00 pm eastern time would be great for me and i think would be appreciated by more than just me.. if you are one of those mercs that needs evening matches make sure you post here so CCP knows how many need evening event times. thanks ccp agreed some of us have jobs and I buy AUR.Just some matches after the time the OP suggested would be cool.I appreciate it.Thanks. but not super late either cause I got to get up in the morning early.How Early?3:40 est. I have to be clocked in by 5 am est
Tzaar Bomba Doomheim 174	Posted - 2012.12.08 00:09:00 - [16] - Quote Dont apologize. He was wrong for trolling even slightly. It was no one else's place to cone into your argument and take sides. You made a simple request, make one event or several at a convenient time for workers. He got butt hurt, and as you pointed out he trolled. He then began to cave until somebody came to pick him up with their version of maturity. It irritates me that people get trolled for making a simple request. Then that request is laughed at because one person says its a bad idea. Weaklings don't need to start **** they cant themselves end. Cant fight you better run, cant troll properly dont try dont talk.
ThreeXB ZionTCD Legacy Rising 7	Posted - 2012.12.08 00:14:00 - [17] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: And thank you, SoTa, for being the catalyst that brought these two together + 1 And then -1 cause love < troll LOL
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.12.08 00:25:00 - [18] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Needless did troll you a bit in his first comment - but it was so minor compared to the response you gave. It may of come with a bit of troll, but everything he says is true, and nothing you've said is. CCP owes you nothing, they have in front of them all the numbers of when people are on the most - and apparently it's the weekends, big shock. If you get screwed - so what, I got screwed in many a WoW event because I had other things to do - such is life, bro. If it's THAT important to you give someone your PSN and tell 'em to get the job done. Otherwise you're nothing but a troll yourself. To fight trolls, you use professionalism and facts - not name calling. Stoop to there level, you're one yourself. And trolls ftw. :D Yes..but did the troll,troll the troll's troll? If when in the act of trolling did said troll occur to the trolls troll only to be back up by the trolls alt? does anyone else see how ridiculous trolling is?


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