DUST Search - (Request) New Race Idea..

DarkShadowFox wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

1. They don't just commit suicide. The Jovians are also the most technologically advanced race in the cluster as they were the ones that created POD technology that Eve Online player utilize as well as possible mastery of wormhole technology. They also specialize in information warfare which enabled them to kick the Amarrians off their turf even if they were outnumbered and outclassed by the biggest and oldest empire in the cluster. It was such a humiliating defeat that it began a chain of events that led to the revolt by the Minmatar who were enslaved by the Amarrians.

2. Again, CCP has to consider whether or not it is worth it to alienate a large player base that may not like your idea just to appease a small minority of players who may like it. They are a business after all and have to factor in the possible loss of revenue.

3. Octavian is right. CCP has already made up their mind on where the story will go. If you are so dead set on pushing this idea of yours, why don't you apply for a job at CCP? They have an office in Atlanta, Georgia as well as one in Iceland and in Shanghai, China if you are willing to relocate.

4. You may claim that you are not trying to shove this down our thoats, but the way you respond to some of our constructive criticism in the last 7 pages clearly shows that you really are determined to shove this idea of yours down our throats. If you can't accept criticism at all even after I provided constructive criticism with a detailed explanation as to why, then you are not going to get far in your career as a writer.

I suggest you drop this now and back off gracefully while you still can. I know I would.

ok this is just in reponse to # 2, I keep saying it can be optional marketplace DLC, wouldnt affect that much and would just pile onto what would be already there. so in a sense, people who dont want it would just not get it and it wouldnt really alienate a player base at all that is where you are wrong, cause they only way to make it actually work is to make it a side download. You know you get where im going.

#4 Yeah your right, I cant accept criticism when its nothing but hate.

# 3) Why so I can just get my idea rejected spend all this money just to see if it works? Id love to work for CCP, I have lots of great Ideas that are human related.

and any other number after this IDK, I cant count, drop it, how about you just stop commenting if you dont like the thread, kay? I have a right to continue on as I see fit and as forum rules go you have a right to respect my posts, but since its been nothing but disrespect and nonconstructive criticism from others and mostly just plain old stupid criticism. IDK where to go from here OH Um I can keep chugging along as I want. thanks have a nice day and dont breath too hard, theirs some canine dander in the hair thats floating right near your windpipe.


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Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.06 16:51:00 - [1] - Quote I don't see this happening considering that you are asking CCP to throw in something like anthro characters into a storyline that has been running just fine for nine years and has two books out already.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.06 17:03:00 - [2] - Quote PS: if there were any anthro characters in New Eden, then I bet the Amarr empire has practically domesticated them and turn them into nothing more than slaver hounds. The rest must have been executed into extinction as they were an abomination to their catholic god.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:02:00 - [3] - Quote Vallud Eadesso wrote: DarkShadowFox wrote: TD;DR Its a new race idea... so read it. alright.. im gonna go sleep.... I think it might be good to see new races in New Eden but they'd be human offshoots like the Joves and Takhmal. An anthro race could potentially be a pretty cool idea and gives a nice basis for really~ mixing up stuff like racial abilities and the like... but not in EVEs universe. The closest we have to aliens in the EVE universe are the Sleepers (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sleeper) and their equivalents. This is part and partial of the universe that humanity REALLY IS all alone. Don't get me wrong, i'm not slamming your ideas, nor am I going to stoop to the levels some others in this thread have, but I will point out that what you're suggesting is so disconnected from EVE and the EVE universe it'd be like introducing jedi as a character class and giving them force powers. Sure it'd be damned cool, but it's not EVE\Dust. This. Maybe in another MMO like World of Warcraft. But never in Eve Online or in Dust 514. The backstory will have to be completely revamped and CCP could potentially lose a lot of players who may not even like the idea suggested by you, Dark. And as far as I am concerned, I don't know anymore than two people in my entire life of talking to people who are into furries in video games. In that case, it might not be worth it for CCP to waste resources developing something that could only gain a small group a players while alienating a much larger number of players. "I can't picture cute fuzzy creatures with big powerful weapons" -Colonel O'Neill of Stargate: SG1-
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:10:00 - [4] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: Vallud Eadesso wrote: DarkShadowFox wrote: TD;DR Its a new race idea... so read it. alright.. im gonna go sleep.... I think it might be good to see new races in New Eden but they'd be human offshoots like the Joves and Takhmal. An anthro race could potentially be a pretty cool idea and gives a nice basis for really~ mixing up stuff like racial abilities and the like... but not in EVEs universe. The closest we have to aliens in the EVE universe are the Sleepers (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sleeper) and their equivalents. This is part and partial of the universe that humanity REALLY IS all alone. Don't get me wrong, i'm not slamming your ideas, nor am I going to stoop to the levels some others in this thread have, but I will point out that what you're suggesting is so disconnected from EVE and the EVE universe it'd be like introducing jedi as a character class and giving them force powers. Sure it'd be damned cool, but it's not EVE\Dust. Lol.. you never knoooow, im sure I could whip up some giant huge world changing galaxy driven force that just makes it happen, this is scif after all. But hey, this is just a mere branch on the eve tree, which can grow other branches, sure they wanna stick to eve as much as possible but we are making two totally different games here. Two totally different games based on the same lore and universe that has been established since 2003 or earlier. You are asking for too much.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:21:00 - [5] - Quote Vallud Eadesso wrote: You never know though, in the PVE mode one of the native races we might see might end up being anthro looking. Nullsec is a big place and this game is very young~ I remember running an NPC mission in Eve Online which I was tasked with finding and destroying a lab in space that housed genetically modified animals. They were basically rabid rabbits of some sort and ate the entire crew according to the story. After destroying some environmental terrorists who stood in my way, I proceeded to destroy the station housing said animals and collected my reward. I think I exterminated the OP's only hope for anthro soldiers that day.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:59:00 - [6] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: DarkShadowFox wrote: Necrodermis wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I remember running an NPC mission in Eve Online which I was tasked with finding and destroying a lab in space that housed genetically modified animals. They were basically rabid rabbits of some sort and ate the entire crew according to the story. After destroying some environmental terrorists who stood in my way, I proceeded to destroy the station housing said animals and collected my reward. I think I exterminated the OP's only hope for anthro soldiers that day. that is the only course of action when dealing with anthro creatures. if i would go out of my way to make sure a planet that has any kind of creature like that is bathed in fire. Yep All Because I wanna contribute something that I like. Yup lets ruin it for the person who thinks up probably something that would actually work. Ok then if it wont work, go make a nice well thought up post on what you would like to see. Alright. also to anyone who said DUST514 and DLC wouldnt work, Dust will have a single player, its not going to be all multiplayer. Link proof of the single player and you still seem deadset as if your idea is preordained to woek while everyone else doubts it Proof. And by proof we mean a direct comment from CCP Games. Not some half baked quote from Sony.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.06 21:51:00 - [7] - Quote Wow, so much trolling here. As for the OP, I think it's time fur you to take your furry idea somewhere else. This game is not suited for it and the community would sure as hell rather burn Jita a thousand times than to see furries in the game.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.06 21:54:00 - [8] - Quote PS: I played Eve since 2007. I know what i'm talking about in regards to how the player base would react.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.07 04:58:00 - [9] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: Octavian Vetiver wrote: DarkShadowFox wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: PS: I played Eve since 2007. I know what i'm talking about in regards to how the player base would react. eve is eve, this is once again not eve, set in the same universe but not eve. And the lore is still the same. They will not change new eden lore to suit some console gamer that wants it. yet its built on a console, hmm.. wonder whos gonna mention most of the things, eve fanboys know nothing about console gaming, no one hears knows about what I have to offer. Oh my ******* god. Really? You think just because the game is in a console suddenly your idea matters more? The console platform has no bearing on the established backstory of the New Eden universe. Again, you are asking CCP to change the lore that effects both games at once. In Eve Online there are five races (all human): Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar, and Jovians. In Dust 514 there are five races (all human): Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar, and Jovians. In both games, we have no access to the Jovian race and their star systems because they are known as a very isolated race because they have tampered with genetic manipulation so much that they now suffer a condition that makes them depressed and commit suicide. Both games share the same storyline. The empires in Eve Online discover an ancient technology that enables the creation of immortal soldiers that you and I know as Dust mercenaries that participate in Mordu's Private Trials as well as that hosted by the Ishukone corporation which invaded Intaki 5 - moon 14 (hint). Both games access the same server and the same galaxy (you and I know it as New Eden). As you can see, being made in a console platform or PC platform has no bearing on storyline development. It never did, and never will. The storyline is dictated by CCP and CCP alone and has been running like that for nine years straight. Do you have any idea how much careful planning it took to put together such an intricate storyline that spans years and two novels? No, you do not. I don't care if you wrote sci-fi stories before. Your stories cannot possibly compare to the complexity and progressive development of New Eden's storyline that also effects the players as a whole.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.07 05:19:00 - [10] - Quote 1. They don't just commit suicide. The Jovians are also the most technologically advanced race in the cluster as they were the ones that created POD technology that Eve Online player utilize as well as possible mastery of wormhole technology. They also specialize in information warfare which enabled them to kick the Amarrians off their turf even if they were outnumbered and outclassed by the biggest and oldest empire in the cluster. It was such a humiliating defeat that it began a chain of events that led to the revolt by the Minmatar who were enslaved by the Amarrians. 2. Again, CCP has to consider whether or not it is worth it to alienate a large player base that may not like your idea just to appease a small minority of players who may like it. They are a business after all and have to factor in the possible loss of revenue. 3. Octavian is right. CCP has already made up their mind on where the story will go. If you are so dead set on pushing this idea of yours, why don't you apply for a job at CCP? They have an office in Atlanta, Georgia as well as one in Iceland and in Shanghai, China if you are willing to relocate. 4. You may claim that you are not trying to shove this down our thoats, but the way you respond to some of our constructive criticism in the last 7 pages clearly shows that you really are determined to shove this idea of yours down our throats. If you can't accept criticism at all even after I provided constructive criticism with a detailed explanation as to why, then you are not going to get far in your career as a writer. I suggest you drop this now and back off gracefully while you still can. I know I would.

Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1594	Posted - 2012.12.07 15:01:00 - [11] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: 1. They don't just commit suicide. The Jovians are also the most technologically advanced race in the cluster as they were the ones that created POD technology that Eve Online player utilize as well as possible mastery of wormhole technology. They also specialize in information warfare which enabled them to kick the Amarrians off their turf even if they were outnumbered and outclassed by the biggest and oldest empire in the cluster. It was such a humiliating defeat that it began a chain of events that led to the revolt by the Minmatar who were enslaved by the Amarrians. 2. Again, CCP has to consider whether or not it is worth it to alienate a large player base that may not like your idea just to appease a small minority of players who may like it. They are a business after all and have to factor in the possible loss of revenue. 3. Octavian is right. CCP has already made up their mind on where the story will go. If you are so dead set on pushing this idea of yours, why don't you apply for a job at CCP? They have an office in Atlanta, Georgia as well as one in Iceland and in Shanghai, China if you are willing to relocate. 4. You may claim that you are not trying to shove this down our thoats, but the way you respond to some of our constructive criticism in the last 7 pages clearly shows that you really are determined to shove this idea of yours down our throats. If you can't accept criticism at all even after I provided constructive criticism with a detailed explanation as to why, then you are not going to get far in your career as a writer. I suggest you drop this now and back off gracefully while you still can. I know I would. ok this is just in reponse to # 2, I keep saying it can be optional marketplace DLC, wouldnt affect that much and would just pile onto what would be already there. so in a sense, people who dont want it would just not get it and it wouldnt really alienate a player base at all that is where you are wrong, cause they only way to make it actually work is to make it a side download. You know you get where im going. #4 Yeah your right, I cant accept criticism when its nothing but hate. # 3) Why so I can just get my idea rejected spend all this money just to see if it works? Id love to work for CCP, I have lots of great Ideas that are human related. and any other number after this IDK, I cant count, drop it, how about you just stop commenting if you dont like the thread, kay? I have a right to continue on as I see fit and as forum rules go you have a right to respect my posts, but since its been nothing but disrespect and nonconstructive criticism from others and mostly just plain old stupid criticism. IDK where to go from here OH Um I can keep chugging along as I want. thanks have a nice day and dont breath too hard, theirs some canine dander in the hair thats floating right near your windpipe. #2: DLC as an optional download is not part of CCP's design philosophy. Once they create content, they release it as an entire expansion that effects all servers and consequently everyone else. Eve Online never had optional DLC and neither has Dust 514. Besides, you still have to log into the servers to play. You need to understand how CCP operates and what their philosophy is. CCP never said anything about any possible side downloads anywhere in the foreseeable future. Everything they release will effect everyone... no exceptions. We are in one universe // one war // one sandbox. The actions of one MUST effect the other. #4: Not much hate from me actually. Much of what I posted was constructive criticism. The rest were just a mixed bag from other posters who speak for themselves (I have no control on what they post). Overall I wouldn't mind your idea being implemented in other games like maybe World of Warcraft or Guild Wars and such. Or maybe even Stargate Universe (is that still going on?) since their storyline involves an unseen race known as the Furlings who were allies with the Asgard, Ancients, and the Knox. But not in Dust 514 or anywhere near New Eden. It's an entirely different beast from the rest. Again, I don't mind your idea. I just don't see it happening or working out in Dust given what I said in #2. PS: I can continue this all day or all week for all I care. Just as you have a right to voice your opinions and ideas, I have a right to equally criticize if I see something that won't work based on what I know of CCP's philosophies and policies as well as player behavior over the past 6-7 years that I have been observing. We just have to agree to disagree. I'm sorry that others here have acted like complete jackasses, but they have a right to speak out their minds as well just like you and me. Again, I like your idea, but it won't work in New Eden simply by virtue of how CCP operates. bye.