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Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:21:00 -
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I suspect PS4 and PC would be more likely than Wii U. PS4 because of the natural progression, and PC because of their experience and request from all of us who came from the EVE side who have better PC gaming computers than a love for any particular console. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:23:00 -
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PC dust will come eventually, I've no doubt on that! No reason it shouldn't be ported to PC in a year or so. None at all.
But there's plenty of why it shouldn't be ported before then. The biggest being the division of players. Even with cross play, PC corps will want PC members, not PS3 ones, unless they use mouse and keyboard or a modded controller. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:51:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:PC dust will come eventually, I've no doubt on that! No reason it shouldn't be ported to PC in a year or so. None at all.
But there's plenty of why it shouldn't be ported before then. The biggest being the division of players. Even with cross play, PC corps will want PC members, not PS3 ones, unless they use mouse and keyboard or a modded controller.
I agree PC is very likely. Yet with KBM on PS3 being quite good, I'm not sure if it makes that big a difference vs personal skill, or if it'll be easy to determine who is PC vs PS3 based on gameplay. Either way, I definitely understand their desire to be console oriented for the short term. They want to expand their marketspace. I just don't see Wii U or even Xbox now being part of it. Assuming Dust does well for the first year from Launch, I suspect Sony will incentivize CCP to stay Sony console exclusive. |
Bhor Derri
Legion of Eden
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:59:00 -
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I think CCP learned its lesson; never go to microsoft or Xbox for a game like dust. The thing is CCP probably was going to make d514 an Xbox exclusive and for that I dislike that other consoles things
Just release good games into the over hyped console mainstream for kids? No , thanks. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:13:00 -
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Xbox exclusives are a joke, you realize you're paying for those exclusive each month, right? But you only get 3 a year, while PS3 gets over 10?
If dust was a 360 exclusive, then this game would have 0 chance. Not paying someone else to play something for free. |
Lasarte Ioni
Noob Gaming
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Posted - 2012.12.05 23:22:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote: Very interesting ! I was thinking it was nearly impossible to link two different consoles! This gives me LOTS of hope ! Maybe in the future I will be able to play with my cousin (XBOX fan) Still, I don't remember where I saw , but after the PS3 version is complete , they would move to the PC version...
Some years ago (Cod:MW2) i saw an article where some MW2 (i think, it might have been BFBC) dev was telling how the CoD(or maybe BF) franchise in general was able to make matches between PS3 and XBOX, but the companies (i don't remember if MS,Sony or both) never give the approval.
Just imagine getting a XBOX vs PS3 mode in any fps, the fanboy wars unleashed :D
After all, using platform-independent middleware as a mean to connect client and server is not new nor especially complex (and i mean using it, developing the middleware must be some kind of adventure) |
angelarch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.06 00:19:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Dust has as much chance of going to Xbox or wii U or PC as the uncharted series does going to Xbox . . ..
I agree with your post, but just an FYI. . .
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.06 01:53:00 -
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daniel philp wrote:I know I might get some hate on this topic but I do think Dust 514 could work on the Wii U, the console it self has grown to be a lot better hardware wise and the over all people that use this console are not rely all kids. Your get kids in all games but I do think if CCP wants to make dust 514 a console game they should look into growing into the Wii U, to maybe grow there numbers so dust 514 does not have to relay only on the PS3 people.
Bigger numbers means more and better battles and I only want to see dust 514 become better and better over time.
I would love to hear from other people on this, plz no trolls, I want to know the whys in why it should or should not be thought about.
Are you saying that the hardware is better than the Wii,or better than PS3,because if it's the latter,then I've heard reports of some of their games not running nearly as good as their PS3 counterparts.For instance,I've heard that there's horrible framerate issues with Arkham City,and there was another game that had the same problem,but I can't think of it off hand.Now it could possibly be a problem with it being a port,but at this point,who knows,either way,from what I've heard,the Wii U isn't really proving that the hardware is better than PS3 yet. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2012.12.06 01:57:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:daniel philp wrote:I know I might get some hate on this topic but I do think Dust 514 could work on the Wii U, the console it self has grown to be a lot better hardware wise and the over all people that use this console are not rely all kids. Your get kids in all games but I do think if CCP wants to make dust 514 a console game they should look into growing into the Wii U, to maybe grow there numbers so dust 514 does not have to relay only on the PS3 people.
Bigger numbers means more and better battles and I only want to see dust 514 become better and better over time.
I would love to hear from other people on this, plz no trolls, I want to know the whys in why it should or should not be thought about. Are you saying that the hardware is better than the Wii,or better than PS3,because if it's the latter,then I've heard reports of some of their games not running nearly as good as their PS3 counterparts.For instance,I've heard that there's horrible framerate issues with Arkham City,and there was another game that had the same problem,but I can't think of it off hand.Now it could possibly be a problem with it being a port,but at this point,who knows,either way,from what I've heard,the Wii U isn't really proving that the hardware is better than PS3 yet. It's just how they port, PS3 often gets issues from Xbox or PC ports because they don't use the same coding as Xbox shares with PC. Betheseda ran into that problem with Skyrim, though how they handled it was awful and inexcusable.
From what I understand, PS3 is actually the hardest system to port too, not nintendo, but the new Wii-U is indeed still weaker then PS3. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
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Posted - 2012.12.06 03:35:00 -
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Wii U has a better graphics chip than PS3/360 but the CPU is quite a bit weaker, especially compared to PS3s. If you look it up, Xbox actually has a SLIGHTLY better graphics chip than PS3, and more RAM available for Devs to use for games. But the PS3 has a special CPU, and with that you get games like Resistance, Uncharted, Killzone, etc.... |
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Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.01.01 01:51:00 -
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Reviving this thread since it`s a great discussion for us to have ... So the next steps are , in my opinion... PS4, PC, XBox 720 (Future ...) At least it`s a dream I have ... |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.01 18:01:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:Reviving this thread since it`s a great discussion for us to have ... So the next steps are , in my opinion... PS4, PC, XBox 720 (Future ...) At least it`s a dream I have ... Keep dreaming then.
They are having a hard enough time making this work for PS3.What makes you think they can handle one universe on that many consoles?
Sure it would be really nice,but I just don't see it ever happening,and unless Microsoft lets CCP use there own servers,which they wouldn't do in the first place and that's why it's a PS3 exclusive,count them out. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2013.01.01 19:02:00 -
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Nintendo does more family-oriented games. Dust is not one of them. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.01 19:57:00 -
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PS3 and Xbox both have audiences who consider themselves hardcore gamers - Nintendo lost such people since the Wii. I'm more interested in a VITA/PSP app or phone APP where I can mess with my gear and see the galactic map and maybe talk through it. |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
245
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Posted - 2013.01.01 20:03:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:Reviving this thread since it`s a great discussion for us to have ... So the next steps are , in my opinion... PS4, PC, XBox 720 (Future ...) At least it`s a dream I have ... Keep dreaming then. They are having a hard enough time making this work for PS3.What makes you think they can handle one universe on that many consoles? Sure it would be really nice,but I just don't see it ever happening,and unless Microsoft lets CCP use there own servers,which they wouldn't do in the first place and that's why it's a PS3 exclusive,count them out.
I have faith Well , DUST 514 will be eventually released for the PS4, there's no doubt about that ... The thing that can make this dream happens is that when the game realeses , it will only be the beggining ... not the end ....
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Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.01.01 20:05:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:PS3 and Xbox both have audiences who consider themselves hardcore gamers - Nintendo lost such people since the Wii. I'm more interested in a VITA/PSP app or phone APP where I can mess with my gear and see the galactic map and maybe talk through it.
I'm also considering buying a PSP just for this purpose (ok , ok ... I have a few other games in mind too )
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Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.01 20:10:00 -
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aren't most wii fans like part of the baby boomer generation? i assumed it was the same with the new one. if there was bowling and tennis in dust i could see it being a good port |
Jayquan18
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.01 22:28:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:ATR Kuan Ti wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:It would be really nice to see DUST 514 on other consoles... But imagine the problems that this can cause ! I think that the next natural step is PC...
It was suppost to be on Xbox also a few years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_514During E3 2011, it was confirmed that Dust 514 is to be released exclusively on the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Vita.[1][29] A beta would be held before the end of 2011 followed by a release in the summer of 2012. DUST 514 was initially slated to be the first cross platform game, pitting Xbox 360 and PS3 players with each other but CCP has since dropped the Xbox 360 as a potential platform; the choice of PlayStation 3 exclusive was determined by Sony's more open platform allowing Dust 514 to connect to the Eve Online Server, Tranquility, whereas Microsoft's Xbox Live did not.[30][31] It was also confirmed after E3 2011 that Dust 514 utilizes Havok middleware technology.[32] Very interesting ! I was thinking it was nearly impossible to link two different consoles! This gives me LOTS of hope ! Maybe in the future I will be able to play with my cousin (XBOX fan) Still, I don't remember where I saw , but after the PS3 version is complete , they would move to the PC version... CCP isn't bringing Dust 514 to PC at all. They already said they wanted this to be a console game. If they wanted it for PC they would have released it for that platform years ago. |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.01 22:50:00 -
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Jayquan18 wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:ATR Kuan Ti wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:It would be really nice to see DUST 514 on other consoles... But imagine the problems that this can cause ! I think that the next natural step is PC...
It was suppost to be on Xbox also a few years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_514During E3 2011, it was confirmed that Dust 514 is to be released exclusively on the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Vita.[1][29] A beta would be held before the end of 2011 followed by a release in the summer of 2012. DUST 514 was initially slated to be the first cross platform game, pitting Xbox 360 and PS3 players with each other but CCP has since dropped the Xbox 360 as a potential platform; the choice of PlayStation 3 exclusive was determined by Sony's more open platform allowing Dust 514 to connect to the Eve Online Server, Tranquility, whereas Microsoft's Xbox Live did not.[30][31] It was also confirmed after E3 2011 that Dust 514 utilizes Havok middleware technology.[32] Very interesting ! I was thinking it was nearly impossible to link two different consoles! This gives me LOTS of hope ! Maybe in the future I will be able to play with my cousin (XBOX fan) Still, I don't remember where I saw , but after the PS3 version is complete , they would move to the PC version... CCP isn't bringing Dust 514 to PC at all. They already said they wanted this to be a console game. If they wanted it for PC they would have released it for that platform years ago.
If you listen especially to FanFest and E3 interviews and demos, what they have said over and over is it would launch exclusively on PS3. That's a completely different thing from saying it would not be on PC.
I expect to see it on PC and PS4 in the future. Even the head of SoE let slip in an interview that PS2 will be coming to PS4. |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.02 00:07:00 -
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Sytonis Auran wrote:Jayquan18 wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:ATR Kuan Ti wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:It would be really nice to see DUST 514 on other consoles... But imagine the problems that this can cause ! I think that the next natural step is PC...
It was suppost to be on Xbox also a few years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_514During E3 2011, it was confirmed that Dust 514 is to be released exclusively on the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Vita.[1][29] A beta would be held before the end of 2011 followed by a release in the summer of 2012. DUST 514 was initially slated to be the first cross platform game, pitting Xbox 360 and PS3 players with each other but CCP has since dropped the Xbox 360 as a potential platform; the choice of PlayStation 3 exclusive was determined by Sony's more open platform allowing Dust 514 to connect to the Eve Online Server, Tranquility, whereas Microsoft's Xbox Live did not.[30][31] It was also confirmed after E3 2011 that Dust 514 utilizes Havok middleware technology.[32] Very interesting ! I was thinking it was nearly impossible to link two different consoles! This gives me LOTS of hope ! Maybe in the future I will be able to play with my cousin (XBOX fan) Still, I don't remember where I saw , but after the PS3 version is complete , they would move to the PC version... CCP isn't bringing Dust 514 to PC at all. They already said they wanted this to be a console game. If they wanted it for PC they would have released it for that platform years ago. If you listen especially to FanFest and E3 interviews and demos, what they have said over and over is it would launch exclusively on PS3. That's a completely different thing from saying it would not be on PC. I expect to see it on PC and PS4 in the future. Even the head of SoE let slip in an interview that PS2 will be coming to PS4. Is that the same guy that said that Dust 514 would be launching in October?
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CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.02 00:24:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:It would be really nice to see DUST 514 on other consoles... But imagine the problems that this can cause ! I think that the next natural step is PC...
Well its going to PS4.Crossplatform?Nah.Maybe PC gamers can get a game that bridges Eve and Dust 514.Maybe a Underwater combat game.RTS game?Like in Dust 514 only more important.But if Dust goes PC i want Eve to go PS4 |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.01.02 00:44:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote: Snip Sytonis Auran wrote:If you listen especially to FanFest and E3 interviews and demos, what they have said over and over is it would launch exclusively on PS3. That's a completely different thing from saying it would not be on PC.
I expect to see it on PC and PS4 in the future. Even the head of SoE let slip in an interview that PS2 will be coming to PS4. Is that the same guy that said that Dust 514 would be launching in October?
I think your referring to Jack Trenton CEO and President of SCEA. I was referring to SOE president John Smedley. |
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