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Marston EV
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:27:00 -
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simple question guys, how many people do you think will be playing at launch??? 10,000?? 100,000? 500,000?? i have my own opinion but i want to hear what you guys think. its hard for me to say exactly how many because of how unique this game is, i mean, the game is free which means that theoretically there could be over 70,000,000 who could own it, but at the same time thats never going to happen soooooo what do you guys think???
EDIT: also tell me whyyyyy you guys think it'll be at the numbers you say?? lol, imagine if they released the game in the current build...... |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:28:00 -
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Marston EV wrote:simple question guys, how many people do you think will be playing at launch??? 10,000?? 100,000? 500,000?? i have my own opinion but i want to hear what you guys think. its hard for me to say exactly how many because of how unique this game is, i mean, the game is free which means that theoretically there could be over 70,000,000 who could own it, but at the same time thats never going to happen soooooo what do you guys think??? 1500 on the U.S. Server.
thats it.
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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:29:00 -
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Marston EV wrote:simple question guys, how many people do you think will be playing at launch??? 10,000?? 100,000? 500,000?? i have my own opinion but i want to hear what you guys think. its hard for me to say exactly how many because of how unique this game is, i mean, the game is free which means that theoretically there could be over 70,000,000 who could own it, but at the same time thats never going to happen soooooo what do you guys think???
Depending on how the next few builds go by, about 100-200 k in the first two weeks. |
FFFFF recruiter
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:29:00 -
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mehhh... about 400,000 could own it but only about 300,000 will play it |
Marston EV
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:30:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Marston EV wrote:simple question guys, how many people do you think will be playing at launch??? 10,000?? 100,000? 500,000?? i have my own opinion but i want to hear what you guys think. its hard for me to say exactly how many because of how unique this game is, i mean, the game is free which means that theoretically there could be over 70,000,000 who could own it, but at the same time thats never going to happen soooooo what do you guys think??? 1500 on the U.S. Server. thats it.
lol, do you mean right now?? or how many people you think will be playing at launch?? if its the latter then i think thats helarious, but i also gotta ask why you think that?? |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:43:00 -
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Marston EV wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Marston EV wrote:simple question guys, how many people do you think will be playing at launch??? 10,000?? 100,000? 500,000?? i have my own opinion but i want to hear what you guys think. its hard for me to say exactly how many because of how unique this game is, i mean, the game is free which means that theoretically there could be over 70,000,000 who could own it, but at the same time thats never going to happen soooooo what do you guys think??? 1500 on the U.S. Server. thats it. lol, do you mean right now?? or how many people you think will be playing at launch?? if its the latter then i think thats helarious, but i also gotta ask why you think that?? They want to say its f2p but we know better.30 day actives and passives and the dedicated player will keep moving leaving the average player in the Dust....you only have to read post like this one https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=46489&find=unread
and realize that if they dont segregate the newbs and give us PVE and get better at the wp(bring the rep back)team heals for nano hives,fix the sensor modules so they pay some kind of wp....then we the 1500 of us a year from now will think were are king **** of a "ghost town".Maybe when it get bundled with the PS4 then we will see a massive influx...but it depends if CCP segregates them so they dont get stomped.Maybe the dedicated will recruit and the rest of us originals will be like special forces standing out from the masses...but dont get your hopes up.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:49:00 -
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First few weeks will witness about 800,000 downloads , 1 month in of that 800k only 180k will be playing, 2 months after launch numbers drop further to 150k active players. The first quarter will see drastic number drops down to 75k active players. Major updates will be introduced, internets shall be spammed with ads, numbers will climb back up to 150k within first week. Numbers will continue to climb and hover at around 250k active players gaining and losing a few here and there but balancing out. CCP will try and keep them in game as long as possible with many more updates for years to come. This is my thoughts |
RayRay James
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:49:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Marston EV wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Marston EV wrote:simple question guys, how many people do you think will be playing at launch??? 10,000?? 100,000? 500,000?? i have my own opinion but i want to hear what you guys think. its hard for me to say exactly how many because of how unique this game is, i mean, the game is free which means that theoretically there could be over 70,000,000 who could own it, but at the same time thats never going to happen soooooo what do you guys think??? 1500 on the U.S. Server. thats it. lol, do you mean right now?? or how many people you think will be playing at launch?? if its the latter then i think thats helarious, but i also gotta ask why you think that?? They want to say its f2p but we know better.30 day actives and passives and the dedicated player will keep moving leaving the average player in the Dust....you only have to read post like this one https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=46489&find=unread and realize that if they dont segregate the newbs and give us PVE and get better at the wp(bring the rep back)team heals for nano hives,fix the sensor modules so they pay some kind of wp....then we the 1500 of us a year from now will think were are king **** of a "ghost town".Maybe when it get bundled with the PS4 then we will see a massive influx...but it depends if CCP segregates them so they dont get stomped.Maybe the dedicated will recruit and the rest of us originals will be like special forces standing out from the masses...but dont get your hopes up.
My god, you really have no concept of how CCP does things, do you?
I g curb stomped daily for months when I first started playing EVE. Guess what, 6 years later, I still active. Th learning curve and single server will attract people to Dust gust like it does to EVE
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Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
166
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Posted - 2012.12.04 02:00:00 -
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Yes Pc games never die, but can you name me one console game that has been played 6 years straight with no sequel? In addition, this game has to make it on PS3 to get on the PS4 to Sony as well. I don't know numbers and waiting for the next release but I think it will have a niche player base not a major success. Im hoping this doesn't happen though will changes that need to be made. |
RayRay James
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.12.04 02:43:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:Yes Pc games never die, but can you name me one console game that has been played 6 years straight with no sequel? In addition, this game has to make it on PS3 to get on the PS4 to Sony as well. I don't know numbers and waiting for the next release but I think it will have a niche player base not a major success. Im hoping this doesn't happen though will changes that need to be made.
Honestly, i do believe that a game could last that long on a console. I believe there is a generation of gamers that want there to be more than 'Ooooh.... Shinies' and for their time in game to mean more than just a k/d ratio |
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Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.12.04 02:58:00 -
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over 9000 |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
166
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Posted - 2012.12.04 03:03:00 -
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So a dodgie no is your answer, if kdr is in a game it's always going to be about kdr. Why do betas always make rational people lose their common sense. Even this beta is a small reflection sample size of a player base after release and losing numbers |
Marston EV
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.12.04 03:08:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:So a dodgie no is your answer, if kdr is in a game it's always going to be about kdr. Why do betas always make rational people lose their common sense. Even this beta is a small reflection sample size of a player base after release and losing numbers
no its not an accurate reflection of what will happen to the game because of a few reasons..
number 1 is that because the game is still in beta many people dont see the point in playing (often) because they know that there going to lose everything anyway.
number 2 is that when the game is released there will be TONS of things that will help make the game feel meaningful, and thus more addicting then the current build is.
number 3 is that currently weve been in a sort of stasis in this build, nothing new has been added and theres bugs/ frame rate drops that almost break the game. These SHOULD be gone by launch, and will help to stop the rate at which people drop off of the game. |
Washlee
UnReaL.
131
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Posted - 2012.12.04 03:22:00 -
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This game has potiential if by the release of the open beta it isn't super buggy.
The one thing this game has that many others don't , its a free to play Fps
The game is going to have big lobbys the only thing CCP has todo is increase server caps and make sure people stay aactive
We don't need another MAG situation where the lobbys were to big and there weren't enough players
But like I said this game a CCP have potiential they just need to play their cards right. |
RayRay James
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.12.04 03:42:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:So a dodgie no is your answer, if kdr is in a game it's always going to be about kdr. Why do betas always make rational people lose their common sense. Even this beta is a small reflection sample size of a player base after release and losing numbers
No, to some people it's more war points than k/d radio. I'm a logi and even though I can't get points for half what I do, I still do it. I may not lead the board in k/d (in fact, I'm currently a .52) I still enjoy the role I choose play. If I can help those go 16/1 who can by dropping links and hives, then I will.
It's about the greater good of the group and not the individual. It's pretty much how things work in New Eden. |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
166
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Posted - 2012.12.04 03:46:00 -
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your point one
Oh didn't see its a beta defense coming , since its the holiday season do you believe every time you say "its a beta" an angel gets its wings?If the beta was fun with its limited gear, maps, and features then anything added would seem like a upgrade not a necessity to play it like whipped cream on a sundae is nice but not needed to enjoy ice cream.
your point two
That is very optimistic since at the moment the core game play is polarizing most players and the feedback section is filled with i want to craft, talk to others on space stations, not play against other players, and the biggest selling point a skill system that has to be defended every three seconds or logic might set in and realize the core game play is an FPS but were using a smaller RPG skill progression for the sake of a pokemon gotta collect them all even when I don't play.
your point three
Every game has a wipe before launch , maybe if the beta didn't so heavily depend on skills in order to somewhat enjoy playing the beta they wouldn't be stasis as you said. Yes we are here to test , but fun is a test in games and no one ever said chess and checkers suck because they haven't added new pieces. Or even the mighty Starcraft for video game people. Yes bugs are upsetting but that's what builds fix or updates and ive yet to see that when we know they can from the quick orbital strike fix accomplished in a week.
ok i know you will reply to this but were way off topic now and ill leave you with the last word |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.12.04 03:53:00 -
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lol If they change the aim down sights/scopes on the assault and sniper rifles. Or let u add the attachments u want..
I would say about 1 million.. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.12.04 04:04:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:lol If they change the aim down sights/scopes on the assault and sniper rifles. Or let u add the attachments u want..
I would say about 1 million..
Iron sights are coming, confirmed on twitter: https://twitter.com/CCP_CmdrWang/status/271879431184846848 Weapon customization is coming, confirmed here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=315202#post315202 "[REQUEST] Weapon customization: Subsystem, Rigging, Slots, or Add-ons - The design for this is ready, but it is a very large task to implement it in-game. Expect this at a later date." People really need to read this thread.
The game will be FREE, so I don't think we need to worry about the numbers at launch. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.12.04 04:10:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Marston EV wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Marston EV wrote:simple question guys, how many people do you think will be playing at launch??? 10,000?? 100,000? 500,000?? i have my own opinion but i want to hear what you guys think. its hard for me to say exactly how many because of how unique this game is, i mean, the game is free which means that theoretically there could be over 70,000,000 who could own it, but at the same time thats never going to happen soooooo what do you guys think??? 1500 on the U.S. Server. thats it. lol, do you mean right now?? or how many people you think will be playing at launch?? if its the latter then i think thats helarious, but i also gotta ask why you think that?? They want to say its f2p but we know better.30 day actives and passives and the dedicated player will keep moving leaving the average player in the Dust....you only have to read post like this one https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=46489&find=unread and realize that if they dont segregate the newbs and give us PVE and get better at the wp(bring the rep back)team heals for nano hives,fix the sensor modules so they pay some kind of wp....then we the 1500 of us a year from now will think were are king **** of a "ghost town".Maybe when it get bundled with the PS4 then we will see a massive influx...but it depends if CCP segregates them so they dont get stomped.Maybe the dedicated will recruit and the rest of us originals will be like special forces standing out from the masses...but dont get your hopes up.
PVE with rogue drones is confirmed to be coming. Matchmaking system for highsec that matches people up by total skillpoints is also confirmed. No WP for using repair tool is only a temporary measure because people were abusing it. Sensor modules are already confirmed that they will give WP here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=381213#post381213 |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.12.04 04:23:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:lol If they change the aim down sights/scopes on the assault and sniper rifles. Or let u add the attachments u want..
I would say about 1 million.. Iron sights are coming, confirmed on twitter: https://twitter.com/CCP_CmdrWang/status/271879431184846848Weapon customization is coming, confirmed here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=315202#post315202"[REQUEST] Weapon customization: Subsystem, Rigging, Slots, or Add-ons - The design for this is ready, but it is a very large task to implement it in-game. Expect this at a later date."People really need to read this thread. The game will be FREE, so I don't think we need to worry about the numbers at launch.
just because its free dont mean ppl will play it if its not up to standard |
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Gemini Reynolds
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2012.12.04 04:51:00 -
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I'm willing to bet there will be at least 4 people playing. |
Azrael Arcturus
Doomheim
16
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Posted - 2012.12.04 05:10:00 -
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Honestly? I like the game and what it's trying to do and have high hopes for it, but if things don't change for the better, It's going to bomb pretty hard IMO. As a shooter, it just doesn't feel good like Battlefield 3 or Team fortress 2 does. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
294
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Posted - 2012.12.04 05:45:00 -
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Do not be surprised if you see high numbers the first weekend of launch. Sony is probably going to put alot of money behind this game. It is exclusive and with how many people invested into merc packs just in beta I have a feeling sony will see this as a nice money maker. So I could se 50k-100k maybe even up to 200k if things go real well and once open beta comes around and they get good reviews.
This is closed beta and depending on if CCP gets there crap together and realizes the changes they need to do to make this a better game. |
Zanzbar clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
6
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Posted - 2012.12.04 06:46:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:Yes Pc games never die, but can you name me one console game that has been played 6 years straight with no sequel?
To be fair dust won't need sequels as ccp has unrestricted access to their game files and can update the code as often as they want. comparing it to a major console shooter like COD for example doesn't work, every release of that game has just been an expansion on the lest with a $60 price tag and bring no greater level of functionality to that game than eve has gained from any one of its free expansions over the years. So long as CCP does updates of similar quality to dust and they make sure to properly advertise and convey what the game really is in those add then I have high hopes.
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.12.04 07:08:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:First few weeks will witness about 800,000 downloads , 1 month in of that 800k only 180k will be playing, 2 months after launch numbers drop further to 150k active players. The first quarter will see drastic number drops down to 75k active players. Major updates will be introduced, internets shall be spammed with ads, numbers will climb back up to 150k within first week. Numbers will continue to climb and hover at around 250k active players gaining and losing a few here and there but balancing out. CCP will try and keep them in game as long as possible with many more updates for years to come. This is my thoughts
Thank u for saving me the hastle of typing this out have a like. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.12.04 07:41:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:First few weeks will witness about 800,000 downloads , 1 month in of that 800k only 180k will be playing, 2 months after launch numbers drop further to 150k active players. The first quarter will see drastic number drops down to 75k active players. Major updates will be introduced, internets shall be spammed with ads, numbers will climb back up to 150k within first week. Numbers will continue to climb and hover at around 250k active players gaining and losing a few here and there but balancing out. CCP will try and keep them in game as long as possible with many more updates for years to come. This is my thoughts This seems like a legit summary of at least the first 18 months.
Over time, it'll EITHER hover around the 250k mark, OR it'll pick up gradually and build a huge following (much like EVE has), depending on how well CCP manage to cater to the fans and encourage new players as time goes on, and on how well we, as players, support the new people. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.12.04 09:12:00 -
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Call of duty and need for speed basically re-release the same game with a different expansion pack every year.
I know need for speed would be more popular not less if it was a $10-15 dlc every year instead of $60 game, and didn't swap old features for new ones each time. Some things in old ps2 nfs games was better then the new ones.
If call of duty had used dusts's model, black ops players would have just got black ops 2 for free and kept the guns and maps they already had but added more. Sounds like more people would play it not less, although the game company would probably make less money.
Call of duty will of course have higher player counts, kind of like eve compared to world of warcraft. Less popular doesn't mean worse or it won't last.
How many micro transaction no disc mmo console games have been made?
I had a friend buy a dream cast on ebay and play a console mmo from 2000 with the server still up around a year ago, so it does happen. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.05 04:11:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Crm234 wrote:So a dodgie no is your answer, if kdr is in a game it's always going to be about kdr. Why do betas always make rational people lose their common sense. Even this beta is a small reflection sample size of a player base after release and losing numbers No, to some people it's more war points than k/d radio. I'm a logi and even though I can't get points for half what I do, I still do it. I may not lead the board in k/d (in fact, I'm currently a .52) I still enjoy the role I choose play. If I can help those go 16/1 who can by dropping links and hives, then I will. It's about the greater good of the group and not the individual. It's pretty much how things work in New Eden. you wanna job Logi bro?Dont worry to much bro there gonna fix the rep farm issue in the next build so you can go back to repping and helping out the team....which this dude has a positive mental attitude and should be rewarded for it so he can be tops on the INDIVIDUAL WP leaderboards......CCP.......... ARE YOU LISTENING TO YOUR PLAYER BASE?
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