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Zealot067
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.03 03:03:00 -
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Played several games lately, and even though I've just gotten back, I really have seen a huge change since the first time I played. It happened in various ways - mainly the lack of vehicles and OP players. Anywho I've just bought and skilled 2 weapons - the Laser Rifle and the Mass Driver. The Laser is OK, but it lacks punch at times. The Mass Driver is just HORRIBLE. It's like trying to hit an Ant with a rocket launcher at 1500 yards. The Assault Rifle is now WAY OP, as in it and the Sniper Rifle are the only weapons (other than the forge gun) to be used. Has anyone else noticed this. I suggest a large buff to the Mass Driver - increasing Arc Distance (if not removing it entirely) and reducing certain damages. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.12.03 03:06:00 -
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1_ Beating a dead horse with the AR being OP, there are already a ton of threads on this. Use the search option next time to find if a thread is already made, and comment there.
2_ CCP will be tweaking the assault rifle.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=381213#post381213 (check out the thread for more changes)
"Assault Rifles (Breach especially) - the ultimate weapons of DUST 514
Update: The recoil will be tuned up slightly as well as revisting optimal range for weapons in general in future updates."
3_ Laser rifle kicks ass and kills EXTREMELY fast at the right ranges, especially when the heat builds up.
4_ Mass driver isn't the best weapon right now, but it can be really good at close range, and it will be getting long range mortar functions in the future. I'm not sure if the MD needs the arc to be changed, but right now I don't see the point in using the MD.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=410313#post410313
"[REQUEST] Mortar-like weapons
Update: We have a design that will give the Mass Driver a secondary fire mode that is very similar to a mortar and other designs for "area of effect" weapons as well. For now we are focusing on imporving existing weapons first." |
WHz DS9899
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.03 04:56:00 -
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The SMG is **** too. And HAV's. And shotguns. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.12.03 05:17:00 -
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I do not find that the assault rifle itself is an overly powerful gun it has good rate of fire dose OK damage and good range.
However the gun has little recoil and no bullet spread and these problems are what makes the AR unbalanced |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2012.12.03 05:59:00 -
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AR needs minor nerf. Right now it kills at about the right rate that weapons in this game should.
Other weapons need to be brought in line with AR however. Shotguns are a LITTLE underpowered. e. g. I can sneak up on a Heavy at close range and shoot at upper back/head area and they still survive and retaliate.
Mass Driver. The weapon is a joke. No matter how skilled you are you cant be good with it. Last build did not go far enough to improve it and make it competitive. It needs a better niche function.
SMG. A range is a bit weak.
HMG. Just right at this moment.
Can't comment on other weapons as I don't have any experience with them. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.12.03 06:57:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Shotguns are a LITTLE underpowered. e. g. I can sneak up on a Heavy at close range and shoot at upper back/head area and they still survive and retaliate.
And if you could one-shot Heavies, Shotguns would be horrifically OP. If I get in close to a heavy, I almost never take significant damage killing them, and when I do, it's usually because someone else showed up.
Quote:Mass Driver. The weapon is a joke. No matter how skilled you are you cant be good with it. Last build did not go far enough to improve it and make it competitive. It needs a better niche function.
And you've obviously never seen anyone who's GOOD with a Mass Driver. They're not easy to use, but they're AMAZING in the right hands. Don't feel bad though, I'm not good with them either.
Personal experience is all well and good, but you need to account for OTHER players' skill with different weapons as well. You, personally, sucking with a gun doesn't prove much without seeing how a very different player performs with the same weapon. I'm absolutely useless at using ARs. Seriously, dropping me into battle with one is going to run me into the negatives no matter what I do, no matter what skills I train, and no matter which AR you put in my hands. Does that make ARs weak and tell you they need a buff? Because all it tells me is that I suck with ARs. Let me bring my Toxin SMG into a fight, and I'll break even at worst on my K/D. Give me a Militia Shotgun and at least level 3 Ops, and I can tear several players apart if I have semi-competent teammates backing me up (or at least acting as a distraction). Does that make the Shotgun OP? No, because as you've mentioned and demonstrated, it's a very situational weapon, and in many players' hands, it ISN'T a very effective weapon to be using. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2012.12.03 09:31:00 -
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I put few words here too...
AR:
threat: medium to high
frequency: lot
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
Tactical verision with autofire ->broken
Shotgun:
threat: high to very high
frequency: lot
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
Lasers:
threat: high to very high
frequency: few
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
Grenades:
threat: high
frequency: lot
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
HMG:
threat: high
frequency: medium
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
Forge:
threat: medium / when sniped game over
frequency: medium
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
SMG:
threat: medium
frequency: medium
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
Pistols:
threat: medium
frequency: medium
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
Mass drive:
threat: high!
frequency: few
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
Sniper rifle:
threat: high!
frequency: lot
high meta deadly as ALL weapons
Nova knife/melle
threat: high!
frequency: few/lot
Now you can write ALL weapons are OP, but it is pointles.
Right hands and you die from millita variants everytime.
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