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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.02 01:46:00 -
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It doesn't make any sense why the tank is lost even when it survives the match. At the very least someone should keep it. |
Dissonant Zan
157
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:33:00 -
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I still think all assets on the field owned by the loosing team should be lost and added to the salvage pool of the winning team. |
Wafflelauncher
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:48:00 -
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dude thats exactly what happens. if it survives the match, its returned to your inventory. goes for both suits and vehicles. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.02 06:42:00 -
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Wafflelauncher wrote:dude thats exactly what happens. if it survives the match, its returned to your inventory. goes for both suits and vehicles.
On a disconnect, it's gone. It doesn't matter if it survives the match. Heck, in one instance I manged to get back in the same match and repilot my own vehicle and it was still not returned at the end of the match, |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
90
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Posted - 2012.12.02 06:57:00 -
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In the general area of this thread...
If you hack a vehicle then the match ends, who does the vehicle belong to? |
Dissonant Zan
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Posted - 2012.12.02 07:26:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:In the general area of this thread...
If you hack a vehicle then the match ends, who does the vehicle belong to? Nobody, the vehicle is treated as though it were destroyed in battle.
...even if you hack it back. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
90
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Posted - 2012.12.02 08:32:00 -
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Dissonant Zan wrote:Khal V'Rani wrote:In the general area of this thread...
If you hack a vehicle then the match ends, who does the vehicle belong to? Nobody, the vehicle is treated as though it were destroyed in battle. ...even if you hack it back.
aaaand back on target, I'm with Noc. Someone should keep it if it survives. It would be a good way to "earn" assets in the field if you can manage it... Tankjacking for profit anyone? Might help with retaining corp assets as well. Thanks for the info DZ. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.12.02 08:35:00 -
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You losing it on dc prevents people from purposely dcing to keep their vehicles |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.12.02 08:42:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:You losing it on dc prevents people from purposely dcing to keep their vehicles
How many times does that actually happen? Vs how often do legitimate disconnects happen? In any case, losing an intact asset because the server booted you is asinine. Even if they do rage quit and teammates save it somehow, they should get it back. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.12.02 08:48:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:You losing it on dc prevents people from purposely dcing to keep their vehicles How many times does that actually happen? Vs how often do legitimate disconnects happen? In any case, losing an intact asset because the server booted you is asinine. Even if they do rage quit and teammates save it somehow, they should get it back. It happened plenty of times in the build after E3 because people did it so much just to save isk |
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BestNameEva
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.02 09:22:00 -
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Dissonant Zan wrote:Khal V'Rani wrote:In the general area of this thread...
If you hack a vehicle then the match ends, who does the vehicle belong to? Nobody, the vehicle is treated as though it were destroyed in battle. ...even if you hack it back.
thats not right, if it gets hacked and survives the round it goes back to the original owner. |
Corvus Ravensong
Skyel Industries Subspace Exploration Agency
179
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Posted - 2012.12.02 09:34:00 -
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I'm actually with Noc on this one. If a vehicle survives the match, the person driving it at the end of the match should get to keep it.
Of course if you DC, or ragequit, or try to logoffski to save your vehicle, well, odds are pretty good it's gonna get blown up or stolen.
Bad part of the idea is that it will promote people taking their HAV's deep into their own red zone and kill whoreing from safety - which is already a big enough problem. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
90
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Posted - 2012.12.02 09:39:00 -
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Whoever has control of it at the end should keep it. Resource management is suppose to be part of the game and it is suppose to be a persistent universe after all...
It shouldn't go back to the original owner. Or be treated as destroyed. I know it does but it shouldn't. Dc's should be treated the same way...
Hey Noc, were you in the vehicle when you dc'd or were you out getting your boots dirty? Honest question.
Additionally: @ Vermaak- I'm assuming off of what your saying, the dc & vehicle/saving isk thing is by design then? |
Victor Jovum
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.02 09:48:00 -
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Maybe there should be maintenance costs for survived equipment. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.12.02 10:37:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:You losing it on dc prevents people from purposely dcing to keep their vehicles How many times does that actually happen? Vs how often do legitimate disconnects happen? In any case, losing an intact asset because the server booted you is asinine. Even if they do rage quit and teammates save it somehow, they should get it back. It happened plenty of times in the build after E3 because people did it so much just to save isk
You're a either ignorant or a bad liar. E3 had stability issues too. Furthermore, tankers definitely didn't rage quit to save the meaningless ISK, since you have ALWAYS lost your assets when you leave the battle, through D/C or quitting out. |
Corvus Ravensong
Skyel Industries Subspace Exploration Agency
179
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Posted - 2012.12.02 10:58:00 -
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I support teh vehicle loss to DC or quitting. But I do have to give you the fact that a vehicle still around at the end of the match should be added back to your assets. IMO everything you are driving, wearing, or carrying at the end of the match should be added back into your invintory. (added back to invintory to allow theft & scavenge on the battlefield) |
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