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Zion Shad
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Posted - 2012.11.29 06:58:00 -
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Here are some facts about the CSM. Campaigns start around late January to February. The winners are announced at Fan Fest (late March to April) By this time DUST 514 will be a fully functional game tied in to EVE Online. These means that by this time communication with CCP will become less frequent then what we are accustomed to now. So to set up player representatives to speak on the communities behalf will be crucial if we to influence the way we game.
Today we are in Beta and donGÇÖt need a CSM, but this does not mean we should wait on setting it up for the future.
List of What DUST Candidates may run under:
 Faction Warfare- (EVE/DUST Link, NPC Attack/Defend Contracts, LP and so on)
CorporationGÇÖs & Corp Mechanics- (Dust UI, Dust Management capabilities for Capsuleers, Roles, Communication, ectGǪ)
Infantry Balancing- (Weapons, Mods, Suits and so forth)
DUST Ground Base Vehicle Balancing- (LAVGÇÖs, MAVGÇÖs, HAVGÇÖs, MechGÇÖs)
DUST Air Based Vehicle Balancing- (Dropships, Fighters, Bombers,)
E-Sports (TourneyGÇÖs, Betting, Leagues, Streaming, ectGǪ)
EVE/DUST Planetary interaction- (Installations, District owning/renting, mining, bases, UI, ectGǪ)
EVE/DUST Interaction- (Corps/Alliances, Contracts, Communication, Markets, transportation, ectGǪ)
These 8 are a good place to start and through this list I can a committee can easily be formed |
Zion Shad
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:04:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:???
Why have a second council just for Dust? Not just have a seat or 2 on the current CSM? 1 universe, 1 war, 1 CSM :P
That's why Sha will get my vote if he runs for it. Failing that, Zionshad.
It could be that, but I'm just saying that it is possible to hold two councils based on depth of the game. Why restricted ourselves if we donGÇÖt have to? |
Zion Shad
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Posted - 2012.11.30 02:26:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Hm, Maybe it would be best instead of forming our own council to elect one or two people of our own to simply be a part of the EVE one to represent our interest and things I posted above.
Sha Kharn Clone wrote:
YouGÇÖre restricting yourself and the community by attempting to divide it from the beginning.
I made a statment of how it could happen. It's far from an attempt. I publicly speak more with EVE Capsuleers about interacting with DUST Merc then most any other players. DonGÇÖt mistake me for dividing anything, but let me ask you "do you want a capsuleer to effect how your guns fire or your LAVs drive?". If we only have two seats, we will be out numbered and most of the current CSM are not intrested in DUST. This could be a potential problem in representation in the future.
Im fine with ether way as long as we are represented well  |
Zion Shad
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Posted - 2012.12.01 02:51:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:
Zion's a nice bloke but he's too slippery and not a very honest guy. He says what people want to hear which is good for politics alone if you never plan to actually do anything but eventually he'd have to act and make enemys and he claims to hate us Goons but he's done his fair share of playing nice with us even though he apparently hates us. Either he's got no backbone and will let us do what we want, when we want or he's very, very two faced and long term that does not bode well for him with something like the CSM.
You'd be better off voting for me for Sha.
Your a Member of Goon (not that high up) and a troll. If we were voting for Trolls, Id nominate ReG.
With me being "Nice" with goons, I have given respect where respect is given back to me. Nothing more. To say I have no back bone is BS, I have gone toe to toe with Court House (A director of Goon and Manager of the CFC) and never once backed down (like say the Hive Mind has) when he called all of Dust a "bunch of scrubs".
I find your failed smear to be lame at best. It says a lot when another Duster who is running for Dust CSM step's up to defend me (Thanks Black Jackal )
if you were to run and not have all of Goon vote you in... You would lose.
Bottom line you do nothing for this community now, so why should anyone trust you to do anything then? The last Goon to be in the CSM was fired from both the CSM and banned from EVE. Heck you were even fired from writting for theMittani.com (where Marc the editor came on our show "Podside" and stated it and added you were crap).
But hey glad to hear your running and GG on the forum PvP 
Quote:...or several elected people to sit ON the current CSM.
I'm cool with this idea TBH |
Zion Shad
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Posted - 2012.12.01 03:02:00 -
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Corvus Ravensong wrote:Since we're in beta, CSM candidates should be decided on who has put in the highest number of unique tickets into the bug reports. It's a simple metric, and one that would favor the people who are actually trying to help the game reach release rather than the "I'm better than you" chest thumpers and political backstabbers.
It needs to be greater then Bug reporting. Bug reports do not handle the balancing of weapons or mechanics of vehicles. Bug reports cannot gage the opinions of the community and clearly express them to CCP. Bug reports are a needed thing in beta, but once CSM elections start we will no longer be in beta.
Mavado V Noriega wrote:
Need 2 CSMs tbqh.
EVE link can be easily discussed with both CSMs and CCP having a sitdown imo
Agree.
We have talked about this on Podside with Current CSM members where there could be two seprate meeting as well as holding a Cross over meeting |
Zion Shad
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Posted - 2012.12.01 03:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Speaking solely as an observer here, Zion Shad lacks an element of knowledge in the way things work in Eve Online. Perhaps because he doesn't play the game or perhaps because he doesn't have enough connection in it but I'm hard pressed to vote for someone who is inexperienced in these matters.
Dust 514 is an addition, an expansion, to Eve Online. It is not a separate entity and as such should be treated as such. To we, the Eve Online community, it's not very practical to vote in someone who only knows the Dust 514 element.
I disagree fully on two parts here. First I have played EVE under a few accounts starting back in GÇÖ07 where a death in the family took me away. I came back around GÇÖ09 until the Summer of Rage hit and people started leaving the game due to dissatisfaction. My current start of me participating in EVE is that my laptop currently canGÇÖt support it, but will have a new one come Christmas. So I will be on EVE in one month. But I will always be a DUST Merc.
Second, DUST is much more than some simple GÇ£add onGÇ¥ to EVE. True we will interact and share the same space, but we are separated in game mechanics, factuality and in the majority of our communityGÇÖs. In the US we have one military, but itGÇÖs broken up in three partGÇÖs (Army, Navy, Air force). I see Dust and EVE in this same fashion, but brought together in one universe
IGÇÖm not running to help fix ship balancing or POS in EVE, IGÇÖm running to represent the Players of DUST 514 |
Zion Shad
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Posted - 2012.12.01 06:27:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
The CSM would only need one person covering the Dust mechanics, just as it does one person for each individual field. Hans Jagerblizten was appointed as a CSM solely because his focus was on Faction Warfare mechanics and it got a major revamp just recently...
"Each Individual Field" your words Aeon. So a guy for Ship BalancingGǪ So a Guy for Dropsuit, and Vehicle BalancingGǪ A Guy for EVE Faction WarfareGǪ So add a guy for Dust Faction WarfareGǪ
Dust has and will have just as many field equivalents
Aeon Amadi wrote:
The CSM does -not- need 12 extra members all focusing on their own personal views of Dust 514 when it's active player-base doesn't even number 10,000 yet. There are more corporations than there are people playing Dust 514 (metaphorically speaking) and there are, apparently, more people running for a CSM position -when the game hasn't even been released yet- then there are people in the actual CSM..
You Can't see past the Beta so your opinion is already highly flawed. And to me it appears you want all the power to go to eve.
As for uniting the community of Dust, where has this ever happen in EVE? |
Zion Shad
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Posted - 2012.12.01 11:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
EDIT: Right now - if you were a CSM delegate, what would you honestly fight for? Right now?
First off I would fight for the Interaction and Acceptance of Dust with EVE (Something I already do weekly on Podside in iTunes). This would include features that would benefit Capsuleer and encourage cooperation between both parties. Such things as Planetary based Scanners and Dampeners to aid ally Fleets in system, more meaningful minerals, short to long range Sky fire batteries and the way planets can and will effect SOV Grinds.
I would fight and monitor public opinions on balancing and Core game mechanic issues such as weaponry, mods, infantry vs vehicle combat and Corp UI along with the abilities to recruit and manage EVE Capsuleers. As well as making sure DUST is not Pay to Win
Clearer and more frequent communication between CCP and the Community and in game Events.
I would fight for Player Corp in game advertisement (Also a current project I am working on) and E-sports along with betting and Live stream support. I would also work on more concepts for more Match Types.
https://twitter.com/ZIonShad/status/273345106529112064
I have already begun interacting & chatting with members of CSM 7 and have gained both their respect and trust both in private chats and public Casts. I even keep up with Hans (the Faction Warfare guy heGÇÖs know as) on Skype with the progress of FW and the planetary effect it will have on Plexing.
In fact I was asked to attend the Pre-summit CSM Town Hall to be held Dec. 8 because during the summit they will be discussing the EVE/Dust Link further and so Dust needs a voice.
And I have been wanting DUST 514 to be Involved with CSM even before the E3 Build
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=141895#post141895
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22354
As we come closer to actual election I will be happy to touch on this subject more, But for now we need to establish that we want representation whether it be in our own council or just having two seats. |
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