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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:40:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Cross Atu wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:for the nerdy among you see Orcs from the warhammer world :P. In your estimation would that make EVE players Dark Eldar or Chaos? Oooo, wait I know, considering what MMORPG stands for they must be Slanessh (Note: I am too lazy to look up the spellings of these WH40k terms, they may be incorrect) Only spelling mistake was Slaanesh, and you weren't far off. But Orcs are Warhammer Fantasy, It would be Orks for 40k, so you had the wrong setting. Should be Dark Elves instead of Dark Eldar. But I'd be more inclined to describe EVE players as Empire/Imperium (Empire for Fantasy, Imperium for 40k). They're not a particularly unified group, and there's plenty of internal strife preventing them from being the singular entity they often appear to be from an outside perspective, but they're HUGE and they share many common enemies against whom even the most disagreeable fellow Imperial will be considered a valuable ally.
My 40k is rather rusty, and my straight WH more so but I think that the same could generally be said of Chaos as well as the Empire/Imperium could it not? (less the actual Daemons and more their mortal counterparts) Tho the influx of Orcs (or Orks) into empire territory is an amusing concept to consider.
But if EVE is to be imperial, then I need to find out where these guys hang out
/more directly on topic I'm amused by the sheer number of this type of thread considering the volume of players I know who aren't either D514 or EVE:O but both and the likely trend of that to become more common (not less) in the longer term development of this games meta.
Cheers, Cross
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:44:00 -
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I cant belive I actualy posted in a thread with orcs and stuff in it |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness Industrials
27
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:02:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:(Empire for Fantasy, Imperium for 40k).
What, are we playing Jepardy now?
Alex Trebeck says: "Slaanesh, Orc, and dark elf are playable role characters from this widly popular MMORPG.
Contestant answers in the form of a question: "What the eff are you talking about?"
Alex Trebek says: "ooh, looks like we'll have to go to the judges for that one...
Yes! 'what the eff are you talking about' is correct!"
Contestant: "Alex, I'll take 'other obscure bullsh!t' for 50k." |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:14:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:I cant belive I actualy posted in a thread with orcs and stuff in it thus proving never trust British muhahaha. :-P |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
442
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:45:00 -
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As a pure FPS player I can see that you EVEtards seem to forget a few details.
First off, many of the beta players are from MAG. Though the game modes themselves were just slightly more complex than the current ones in Dust, don't underestimate the meta game from MAG. There are still a lot of animosity between clans and the faction loyalty is still very much alive and brought into Dust. Its almost at a point were I can take every clan playing Dust that came from MAg and put them in the "cool kids" or the "tryhard Ez-mode loser" bracket. I can with great confidence say that many former MAG clans will care kitten about who pays the most, given the opportunity to stomp an old rival clan thats what they'll do.
Many FPS players aspire to get more involved in the games than simply "press L1and then press R1". The meta game around the gameplay itself was immense and I think it'd be wise to not under-estimate many groups currently running about in the beta. They might have more longterm goals and schemes than you might suspect. Playing a FPS on a console doesn't automatically make you less intelligent or interested in whatever lies beyond the content of the game.
As I haven't played COD for more than a couple of hours, (one blind eye and one bad one make me bad at aquireing targets, thank the heavens for the simple grafics in Dust) but even this game gets under-estimated by many. I'm just sick and tired of everybody saying "go back to COD" all the time, usually they don't have the slightest idea what they're talking about. These games may appear to simply be point and shoot, but its a lot more going on, you might not see it or understand it, but trust me, its there.
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Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:55:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:I think FPS players won't care about the big sov issues to start out with.
CCP needs to focus on "Salvage" first.
We need to get that "THISISMETAKINGYOURSTUFF" into the game.
Salvage needs to come from the bodies of dead clones not random Officer Drops (ie pve). Losing the match means NO salvage.
That's the beginning of this type of game like Eve Online and Darkfall.
The motivations to the bigger parts of "THISISMETAKINGYOURSTUFF" like Faction Warfare and Nullsec need to build on this basic.
Lol, talks about salvage over sov. So far from the imperfects in this thread i've seen exactly what i've always said. They don't understand this game, it's too big for them to understand. If you want to sit back and live in your own little world and never par take in the sov mechanics or if you want to turn on who hired you, enjoy never being hired again and watching your corp dwindle. I suspect that any corp who doesn't look seriously into the deepest aspects of this game instead of salvage and loot will fade and die within a year of launch. Deuces.
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.11.29 16:44:00 -
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Mike Krieger wrote:Reimus Klinsman wrote:Those who are into mindless fighting will be left in the dust. I see what you did there! Anyway, more seriously, I actually started getting into this game simply because I like to feel that I'm having some sort of impact. I also like that you feel invested in yourself and actually feel like you have something to lose/something to gain. In CoD/Halo/Whatever else, nothing really matters. You fight, rank up, see your stats, then move on. I could die 50 times in a Black Ops match and go to the next battle with a completely clean slate. In this game, if I start getting shredded too many times, I start looking at my loadouts, seeing what I can drop/add to help me out, while also doing everything I can to dampen the strain to my wallet. If I get blown up while flying a Banshee in Halo, I don't think twice. If my Myron gets blasted by a Forge Gun, I actually care. Also, as a plus, I just opened up an Eve account as well, which I think was part of CCP's tactics from the get go. I played this, got curious with the Eve universe and decided to check out the 'other side.' Granted, Eve Online is a lot less intuitive that Dust so far (which is saying a lot since Dust isn't exactly intuitive), but I've taken enough of an interest to try sorting things out.
That right there is what will attract many others. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.11.29 17:53:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I smart EvE player will release that even smart FPS players wont deal with the BS that comes with EvE online, the reason every FPS panders to that crowd is because that wants every FPS loves. Were all here because we want more from shooters that true. but are core nature is not going to change.
your in a gangland trying to act CEO is just going to get you shot release or realize...? |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.29 18:01:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:I think FPS players won't care about the big sov issues to start out with.
CCP needs to focus on "Salvage" first.
We need to get that "THISISMETAKINGYOURSTUFF" into the game.
Salvage needs to come from the bodies of dead clones not random Officer Drops (ie pve). Losing the match means NO salvage.
That's the beginning of this type of game like Eve Online and Darkfall.
The motivations to the bigger parts of "THISISMETAKINGYOURSTUFF" like Faction Warfare and Nullsec need to build on this basic. Lol, talks about salvage over sov. So far from the imperfects in this thread i've seen exactly what i've always said. They don't understand this game, it's too big for them to understand. If you want to sit back and live in your own little world and never par take in the sov mechanics or if you want to turn on who hired you, enjoy never being hired again and watching your corp dwindle. I suspect that any corp who doesn't look seriously into the deepest aspects of this game instead of salvage and loot will fade and die within a year of launch. Deuces.
Actually Telc's post is legit. While we do care about Sov, it's not a major deal yet due to the fact it will take a while before we get there. We need to focus on basic **** such as salvaging and making sure it's a solid mechanic. Instead of being an ass, take into account not all players want to be hardcore players that strive for only Sov. Why do we need to focus on sov? CCP has said they want DUST Mercs to fight in FW aswell as nullsec, they want to cater to both hardcore and casual players.
Working on salvage would be good, I'd like to see it worked on soon. |
Dissonant Zan
157
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Posted - 2012.11.29 18:14:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:Lol, talks about salvage over sov. So far from the imperfects in this thread i've seen exactly what i've always said. They don't understand this game, it's too big for them to understand. If you want to sit back and live in your own little world and never par take in the sov mechanics or if you want to turn on who hired you, enjoy never being hired again and watching your corp dwindle. I suspect that any corp who doesn't look seriously into the deepest aspects of this game instead of salvage and loot will fade and die within a year of launch. Deuces. LOL you should reread it |
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Vane Arcadia
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
115
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Posted - 2012.11.29 20:21:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote: "they will just want to watch your worlds burn" and they WILL turn on you in seconds if the price is right.
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This has been the Eve way since day 1 - so no change there !
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RayRay James
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:05:00 -
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6 years in EVE, I still don't have it all figured out. If you need help, though, let me know. I'll do my best to impart what knowledge I do have if you're interested.
Mike Krieger wrote:Reimus Klinsman wrote:Those who are into mindless fighting will be left in the dust. Also, as a plus, I just opened up an Eve account as well, which I think was part of CCP's tactics from the get go. I played this, got curious with the Eve universe and decided to check out the 'other side.' Granted, Eve Online is a lot less intuitive that Dust so far (which is saying a lot since Dust isn't exactly intuitive), but I've taken enough of an interest to try sorting things out.
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Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:07:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:I do not plan to release the people at all. We are all gamers here. We all intend to burn and destroy the enemy with whatever implement we have available. Intent remains the same no matter if the implement is a HAV, AR or battleship.
These artificial factional lines will make less sense over time. I know eve players who operate in very short bursts of violence rampaging from fight to fight, as well I know FPS players who are long game schemers.
Bored of this drama already.
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:15:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Cross Atu wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:for the nerdy among you see Orcs from the warhammer world :P. In your estimation would that make EVE players Dark Eldar or Chaos? Oooo, wait I know, considering what MMORPG stands for they must be Slanessh (Note: I am too lazy to look up the spellings of these WH40k terms, they may be incorrect) Only spelling mistake was Slaanesh, and you weren't far off. But Orcs are Warhammer Fantasy, It would be Orks for 40k, so you had the wrong setting. Should be Dark Elves instead of Dark Eldar. But I'd be more inclined to describe EVE players as Empire/Imperium (Empire for Fantasy, Imperium for 40k). They're not a particularly unified group, and there's plenty of internal strife preventing them from being the singular entity they often appear to be from an outside perspective, but they're HUGE and they share many common enemies against whom even the most disagreeable fellow Imperial will be considered a valuable ally. lol Unified in the universe of Warhammer 40k it is unified absolutely and with out fail.For if you are not with us you are a HERITIC....and you know what we do to heretics? KILL THE MUTANT, BURN THE HERETIC, AND PURGE THE UNCLEAN. |
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