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Mobius Kaethis
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Posted - 2012.11.20 02:17:00 -
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Wait, are you seriously saying that a tank does not have a chance against a heavy with a forge gun? Even you have just said it takes 3-4 forge hits (and those are probably proto because I can't 3 hit kill a tank with my standard forge) to take your tank down. Do you really want us to believe that you can't kill a forge gunner, even one who is sitting all the way across the map, with a single missile barrage? Come on now, there is no way a forge is OP. |
Mobius Kaethis
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2012.11.20 13:32:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Obviously not a HAV driver
Forge gunners hide behind hills and the only way THE ONLY WAY to get a kill on that forge gunner is a direct hit, he charges up and pops out for less than a couple of seconds fires the gun and hits the tank and is back behind the hill
'OP' missiles splash damage doesn't travel over the hill
That is all, wait for it, untrue. Having played as both a HAV gunner and forge gunner I can tell you that you just need some elevation. With the height advantage you don't have to get a direct hit just the splash damage will kill the heavy. Don't shoot the hill shoot the rise right behind where the heavy is hiding. Your top turret gunner almost always has this height advantage.
If you are QQing about places where you can't get the splash damage upper hand, a rare animal indeed thanks to the limited range on a forge gun (there are some of these if you hide in your red-line but the forge gun's range does not reach far enough to cover lots of the map when you do this thus limiting your anti-vehicle effectiveness) then perhaps you need to remember that your missiles have unlimited range. You are not hindered by only being able to kill your choosen target by getting close, your missile tank can spam red dots with missiles all the way across the map.
Don't forget HAV drivers, the maps as they currently stand are only a tiny fraction of the full maps. Your unlimited missile range will be an even more massive advantage in future builds since you will be able to hit others from the other side of the map with the help of spotters on comms while forge gunners will still be limited by the range of their weapon and having to be dead on with their shot.
If you are really having a hard time surviving us little forge gunners perhaps you should take up the baby tank driver move of hiding in your red-line to protect your precious isk investment.
edit: You will notice that I never said the missile launcher is OP. |
Mobius Kaethis
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2012.11.21 05:04:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I can't believe my eyes. Is a tank pilot complaining about forges? Is the guy whose sitting in a million dollar tank one shotting everything with a turret that shoots 4 missiles at unlimited range with 2 more people able to jump in and help complaining that his shield tank that can wishstand 4 hits from a prototype forge and run after the first hit to go charge shields... is too squishy? Then I complain that proto forges suck, one fires as soon as charged, the other takes 6 seconds and unable to move, and at such a damn price I shouldn't be getting fall backs in usage, charging behind cover and firing on a tank that 1 shots me is all we forgers have. If this guy can complain he's too squishy then I complain we're not only too squishy, we're limited, over priced, and useless for anything but anti-air.
Thank you SoTa PoP. This is exactly what I was trying to expain to EnlishSnake. The reward/risk ratio for tank driving is currently much higher than that of an AV player thanks to the number of kills a skilled tank driver can get versus the risk of being killed by a forge. Really forge gunning is a tough road to hoe. He failed to notice that I never called for a buff to forge or a nerf to tanks either. It seems that all EnglishSnake wants to do is complain about other people identifying a problem that he is clearly taking advantage of. |
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