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R F Gyro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 315	Posted - 2012.11.17 16:49:00 - [1] - Quote Hi Belial This thread seems to have bucked the usual trend and is getting more constructive, rather than less, so I thought I'd weigh in a bit. Belial Farceus wrote: UPDATE THE GAME CCP! A MONTH OF CRAPDEX IS ENOUGH! I'm fairly certain that when the devs read the forums they perform a kind of "triage" on each post; is it a whine or is it constructive criticism? The whines will be immediately ignored with no further thought: even if there is actual useful content somewhere in the thread, it will never be seen by the devs. Starting with this essentially guarantees that the people you are addressing it to "CCP" won't read it. Belial Farceus wrote: as just having started college for programming, i have a rough idea. but even still, larger groups of programmers = more code that is being made. This is not as universally true as you might think. Google Fred Brook's "Mythical Man-Month" and you'll probably find his classic quote that "adding people to a project that is running late will make it later". It sounds counter-intuitive but most people with extensive experience in large scale software development realise the truth to it. Belial Farceus wrote: but they have vets from the FPS industry working on their mmo. There is a significant difference between individual experience and organisational experience. I've worked in many organisations where all the individual experience was available to make good decisions, but the actual decision makers weren't able to draw on it when needed. A good organisation (and I believe CCP is one of these) will suffer from this for a while but will rapidly convert that individual experience to organisational experience. Belial Farceus wrote: lets just use some up to date stuff to compare it to. COD black ops came in 2010, black-ops 2 just released 2012. These games aren't written from scratch; new versions build on previous ones. Not just reusing code, but also building on existing gameplay and balancing. Belial Farceus wrote: but how many GREAT ideas have been brushed aside? like i said before they only listen if it really helps THEIR preconceived ideas for Dust instead of looking at something that might work better with their final product Just because a suggestion hasn't made it into the game (yet) it doesn't mean it has been "brushed aside". It might be... * in the next release, going through internal QA right now * on the product backlog, planned for an upcoming release * on the product backlog, not in a planned release, but in a "things we'd like to see eventually" state * a good idea that is incompatible with a better one somewhere else * a good idea that is impossible or impractical to implement It is also important to have a strong vision behind a product, and to make decision/feature decisions within the context of that vision. Ignoring good ideas is a really bad thing; not sticking to your vision is also a really bad thing. Finding the right balance is difficult, but I have confidence CCP have the capability to do it.
R F Gyro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 315	Posted - 2012.11.17 19:36:00 - [2] - Quote Crm234 wrote: that is the thing after about being in the beta for 4 months i am still confused of what CCP concept is. they dont know whether they want to be a FPS or a RPG. they dont know if they want to use the PS3 controller or use a keyboard and mouse. they dont know whether they want large player counts or small player counts. they dont know if they want to be a add on to eve or a full independent game. Sometimes i dont even know if they wanted to make a PS3 game. I know this sounds harsh but its what i feel at the moment and it makes me sad because i really wanted to play this game and was very excited when i got the accepted into the beta. at this point my best advice is to ditch the connection to eve because it is making tons of problems on game development and player relations. balance it, release it and then slowly work in eve if it needs it. By way of analogy: they don't even seem to know whether they want it to be red or yellow; what looks like a lack of vision may simply be a failure to comprehend that the vision is orange.

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