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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.11.15 22:50:00 -
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Governor Odius wrote:ugg reset wrote:
when I run my good logi i put an SMG in the light sought for additional run speed.
I'm pretty sure that doesn't affect your speed.
I have to admit that, in my experience, it FEELS like I'm running faster with my SMG out than with a Light Weapon equipped. I haven't timed it to check, but I think it may be a legit speed difference with Sidearms compared with Light Weapons. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.11.15 23:07:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The other issue with logis is they are so slow. I tend to fall behind the rest of the squad, so we get separated easily, and so my weapon of choice is a laser rifle.
Why do I keep hearing that? It may just be my imagination, but I'm pretty sure logi's are just as fast as assault players (unless you throw an armor plate or 2 on, like mine). The only thing faster than a Type II logi is a scout.
Base movement speed on Militia Logi suit: 4.70 m/s
Base sprinting speed on Militia Logi suit: 6.58 m/s
Base movement speed on Militia Assault suit: 5.00 m/s
Base sprinting speed on Militia Assault suit: 7.00 m/s
Over the course of 5 seconds, you should expect the Logi suit to fall at least 1.5m behind. 10 seconds means they're 3m ahead of you. if you're sprinting, that speed difference increases.
Type II Logi moves faster than the standard versions.
EDIT: Basic Type II has the same statline as the standard Assault suits, while the B-Series (Advanced) and vk.1 (Prototype) are faster than the equivalent Assault suits, including the Assault B-Series and vk.1 variants |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.11.16 01:45:00 -
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Pretty sure that was the point Gyro was making... lets highlight a few key points, shall we?
R F Gyro wrote:Imagine this scenario...
Your team of 16 mercs is running around in a big pack; a couple of scouts are out ahead, there there is the main group with four logis and ten assaults/heavies.
One of the scouts suddenly calls out: enemy gang spotted heading your way. Similar composition to your team, so should be an epic fight. You back around the corner and wait for them to run into you.
In they come and the fight begins.
Seems legit... lets read on...
Quote:Both teams stand out in the open, in their groups, facing each other.
...and there goes any resemblance to FPS tactics.
Quote:Poorschmuck hits the button on his d-pad that broadcasts for reps and your four logis start repping him.
And if all your healers are next to this one person to rep him, there's nobody providing Logistics for the rest of the map.
What has to happen for FPS gameplay - particularly in objective-based game modes - is that you split into smaller groups.
For DUST's gameplay, Logi isn't about making someone invulnerable like it is in EVE. Your job here is to slow the damage, not stall it. Most fights start and finish quickly, and the Logi guy is there to give his teammates an edge in combat - slow the health loss rather than stopping it, so the other guy drops first, and to clean up the mess - revive the guys who fell, and patch up the wounded before the next encounter, so your squad has a good chance of coming into the battle in better shape than the enemy. Resupply is part of the role as well, for the same reason as patching your guys up. If you run into enemies when you're low on health or ammo, you're at a disadvantage. if they're low on health and ammo, and you have a friendly Nanohive, then you have a STRONG advantage. |
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Posted - 2012.11.16 14:09:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:R F Gyro wrote:Both teams stand out in the open, in their groups, facing each other. ...and there goes any resemblance to FPS tactics. Yes, but the example is using Eve ship tactics. Though they don't apply as Dust currently stands, it is an interesting, and likely, scenario should this kind of multi repping become possible.
And that's exactly what I was trying to point out to the people commenting before me who seemed to be entirely missing what Gyro was saying. |
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