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Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Needless Sacermendor wrote:

Drommy Hood wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Codewish and a Proto HMG are the only AUR weapons in the game with stats a tier below their capabilities.

The other Proto AUR weapons get the same benefit every other tier has - lower SKILL prerequisites and the Proto level fitting requirements.

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The other proto AUR weapons he's talking about aren't proto ... they are advanced weapons ... but they have the damage and fitting requirements of the proto.

These are simply early unlocks of the proto spec which is fine ... but the AR, HMG and Shield Regenerator have proto skill level AUR items that are an advantage over the isk proto level items and should be removed like most of the others have already been.

If anyone knows of any others post it here so we can compile a complete list of items that missed the last wave of removals.

They're the equivalent to prototype ISK weapons.

They specifically refer to being more accessible versions of prototype technology in their descriptions.

That's what I meant when I said Proto. The tech is Proto, the meta level is Proto, and for every weapon with AUR versions except for those two, the Proto equivalent weapons have Proto equivalent fitting requirements, and only drop back to Advanced skill prerequisites.

They're exceptions to the rule, several such weapons have been removed because of the same "problem" and one of the weapons in this case has also been mentioned as a mistake that needs to be fixed.


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Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.11.14 12:52:00 - [1] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: People people. If something is broken they-¦ll fix it as soon as they know it-¦s broken and are able to. No need to scream "OHMIGOD P2W" for every little inbalance that may appear. They already told that-¦s not their plan, and the forums and support mail are the tools to inform it. Simple as that, no end of the world. Have fun. Nobody here is screaming, it's a general discussion (on the forum, one of your "tools to inform") that now seems to have come to the conclusion that this weapon represents a fairly clear P2W situation that needs bringing to the attention of CCP as they seem to have overlooked it when they removed the other AUR proto damage for advanced fitting requirements a couple of builds ago. I think there is a Heavy weapon that fits the same scenario, HMG or Forge I forget, I'll check when I get home and make sure both are in the feedback section and emailed to support.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.11.17 19:45:00 - [2] - Quote Bumping this up for it's prominence. And also adding a Shield module to the list ... The 'Tether' Complex Shield Regulator is an AUR item with reduced fitting requirements allowing for a better fitting than its isk equivalent. It does require an extra skill level, but it makes no difference to the fact you can make a better fitting by paying for AUR.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.11.18 15:11:00 - [3] - Quote Drommy Hood wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Codewish and a Proto HMG are the only AUR weapons in the game with stats a tier below their capabilities. The other Proto AUR weapons get the same benefit every other tier has - lower SKILL prerequisites and the Proto level fitting requirements. This The other proto AUR weapons he's talking about aren't proto ... they are advanced weapons ... but they have the damage and fitting requirements of the proto. These are simply early unlocks of the proto spec which is fine ... but the AR, HMG and Shield Regenerator have proto skill level AUR items that are an advantage over the isk proto level items and should be removed like most of the others have already been. If anyone knows of any others post it here so we can compile a complete list of items that missed the last wave of removals.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.11.18 19:48:00 - [4] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: Drommy Hood wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Codewish and a Proto HMG are the only AUR weapons in the game with stats a tier below their capabilities. The other Proto AUR weapons get the same benefit every other tier has - lower SKILL prerequisites and the Proto level fitting requirements. This The other proto AUR weapons he's talking about aren't proto ... they are advanced weapons ... but they have the damage and fitting requirements of the proto. These are simply early unlocks of the proto spec which is fine ... but the AR, HMG and Shield Regenerator have proto skill level AUR items that are an advantage over the isk proto level items and should be removed like most of the others have already been. If anyone knows of any others post it here so we can compile a complete list of items that missed the last wave of removals. They're the equivalent to prototype ISK weapons. They specifically refer to being more accessible versions of prototype technology in their descriptions. That's what I meant when I said Proto. The tech is Proto, the meta level is Proto, and for every weapon with AUR versions except for those two, the Proto equivalent weapons have Proto equivalent fitting requirements, and only drop back to Advanced skill prerequisites. They're exceptions to the rule, several such weapons have been removed because of the same "problem" and one of the weapons in this case has also been mentioned as a mistake that needs to be fixed. Yeah I'm sure we're on the same page ... just that they're listed on the market with the advanced weapons due to the skill requirements. To be perfectly honest I'm just trying to keep this thread prominent so that CCP see it and include the HMG and Shield Regenerator in the 'needs to be fixed' list.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.11.19 12:50:00 - [5] - Quote Lol, but I know I'm right ... which means you must be wrong (or possibly right aswell) ;-)
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.11.19 19:04:00 - [6] - Quote CCP ... please let us know you've read this and are at least considering adding these 2 items to the chopping board. Or just add them to the weekly updates thread as being looked into or something.