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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:23:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Meh, shield regen isnt the problem. It may be their rate tbh. But even then, aint the problem with HAV at the moment.
PS: i just love self +1 obvious people. lol. lol shield regen rate 24-30hp a second lol isnt that slow enough for you? What's the delay on it?
Nt sure tbh, i know it doesnt recharge when taking damage or straight after, maybe a few seconds |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:25:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Meh, shield regen isnt the problem. It may be their rate tbh. But even then, aint the problem with HAV at the moment.
PS: i just love self +1 obvious people. lol. lol shield regen rate 24-30hp a second lol isnt that slow enough for you? What's the delay on it? I can't say for certain, but both rate and delay on a well-fitted Sagaris are definitely worse than they are for my Dragonfly.
Until you count Shield boosters, which are on a 60 second cooldown. Force a tank to pop one of those, then tear it apart when the module runs dry. |
Herpn Derpidus
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:34:00 -
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i think both shield and armor reppers for vehicles need a nerf, but overall armor on all vehicles needs big buff, and shileds a small buff,
shields should still passively regenerate but armor tanking should have more HP overall |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:36:00 -
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Herpn Derpidus wrote:i think both shield and armor reppers for vehicles need a nerf, but overall armor on all vehicles needs big buff, and shileds a small buff,
shields should still passively regenerate but armor tanking should have more HP overall
Armor does have more HP overall |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:24:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Only if we take infantry shield regen away with it- then everything will equally make no sense.
There's no reason a HEAVY ASSAULT vehicle manned by 3 people should be easily destroyed by 1 person with AV gear at a fraction of the cost. Not to mention precision/orbital strikes, gunships, and bombers (after future builds) will easily take out tanks.
However, this goes back to the argument that the main gun should be controlled by a separate seat than the driver's seat. (Which I agree with, before you start freaking out- I'm an LAV driver)
Now watch you say "Z0MG t4nk driv3r n00b" because I disagree with you.
Cost again,So... If it's about cost how come i can't go proto? But tanks can pro to every game? |
Bhor Derri
Legion of Eden
95
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:31:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Ahahahahahahahahahahahah +1 good joke thread man, you're such a funny guy.
Oh jason my good friend you left enigma sec?? Oh dear ROAM is ducked up lol. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:33:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:How many times are you gonna make the same thread 4447?. Granted this is dressed differently, but it's still a tank whine thread.
Seriously I answered pretty much every thread you've made about it until this one. Now your just crying like a baby and I honestly cba explaining it all again.
If you can't take out tanks solo good, get some friends like everyone else and work together. Failing that, just quit the game. It's obviously not for you.
This is what i mean everyone wants this to be a team based game, But most people will solo most of the time. Why should a tank have the ACE card all the time?
Why should a tank not need teamwork and every post i make you say use teamwork?
A logi needs a role in a tanks life. Like bread and butter.
BF 3 tanks can live without a engineer, Right?
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Ops Fox
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
197
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:39:00 -
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4447 wrote: This is what i mean everyone wants this to be a team based game, But most people will solo most of the time. Why should a tank have the ACE card all the time?
Why should a tank not need teamwork and every post i make you say use teamwork?
A logi needs a role in a tanks life. Like bread and butter.
BF 3 tanks can live without a engineer, Right?
well tahts what some of us are suggesting make the tanks require atleast 2 guys to drive by seperating the gunner and mkae them require ammo so they are foced to reley on infantry for resupply. those are the team ellements tanks need what team element would nerfing tanks even futher provide?
a logi could have a resupply module for resupplying vehicles |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:45:00 -
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4447 wrote:Why should a tank not need teamwork and every post i make you say use teamwork? A tank without infantry support is either redlined already or going to die.
A tank without gunners is rarely operating even as high as 50% of its capabilities.
Tanks need teamwork too. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.11.13 16:31:00 -
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LOL ace card
Garrett Blacknova wrote:4447 wrote:Why should a tank not need teamwork and every post i make you say use teamwork? A tank without infantry support is either redlined already or going to die. A tank without gunners is rarely operating even as high as 50% of its capabilities. Tanks need teamwork too.
This
I now roll around with a full squad as much as possible
All gun seats filled all with mics and keeping an eye out, i used to run around with my Gunlogi alot more solo because it was cheaper and just easier to do i need the pts so i did tht now i dont as much because ive nearly perfected the fit and skill to go with it
Even with a full tank and we identify threats such as swarms and forge guns we cant always kill em so we have to retreat
Randoms vs randoms and only 4ppl can do so much and no one ever works together because they are all in ther own squad chatting doing ther own thing |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.13 16:37:00 -
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Bhor Derri wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Ahahahahahahahahahahahah +1 good joke thread man, you're such a funny guy. Oh jason my good friend you left enigma sec?? Oh dear ROAM is ducked up lol.
Time to derail the bad thread. ENSEC was good for what it was, a Corp dedicated to fighting ROAM :D But ROAM died so we all kinda separated, ended up meeting the SI guys and finding that they could actually work together and were a laugh ^_^ Win Corp is Win. |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2012.11.13 17:49:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:LOL ace card Garrett Blacknova wrote:4447 wrote:Why should a tank not need teamwork and every post i make you say use teamwork? A tank without infantry support is either redlined already or going to die. A tank without gunners is rarely operating even as high as 50% of its capabilities. Tanks need teamwork too. This I now roll around with a full squad as much as possible All gun seats filled all with mics and keeping an eye out, i used to run around with my Gunlogi alot more solo because it was cheaper and just easier to do i need the pts so i did tht now i dont as much because ive nearly perfected the fit and skill to go with it Even with a full tank and we identify threats such as swarms and forge guns we cant always kill em so we have to retreat Randoms vs randoms and only 4ppl can do so much and no one ever works together because they are all in ther own squad chatting doing ther own thing
Just to expand a bit:
Driver has mic Both gunners have mics Top gunner has 360 checking duties Front gunner map duties Spotting duties Gunners have logi suit fit with reps, drop links and nanohives Tank supporting scout capping objectives Scout targetting hard-to-reach-by-HAV infantry
No teamwork by tanks here! |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2012.11.13 18:10:00 -
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Keep the shield regen and give me a weapon that can tear through shield, deal decent damage on armor and is a viable option for vehicles and Infantry. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2012.11.13 22:17:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:Keep the shield regen and give me a weapon that can tear through shield, deal decent damage on armor and is a viable option for vehicles and Infantry. soo. give you a proto laser rifle? |
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