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Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.11.11 02:56:00 -
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The black ops tanks will most likely have cloaks |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.11.11 02:59:00 -
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I thought that was the point? |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2012.11.11 03:02:00 -
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I I'm pretty sure the main point was to have infantry sized sig radiuses but I'm probably mistaken
(this was mainly meant to be a wake up call to those who say cloaking should be limited to scouts) |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.11.11 03:31:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I I'm pretty sure the main point was to have infantry sized sig radiuses but I'm probably mistaken
(this was mainly meant to be a wake up call to those who say cloaking should be limited to scouts)
lolno
vehicles already confirmed will have cloaks
read the devblogs, one of them with vehicles said dropships will have them
black ops tanks will be able to use them as well |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
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Posted - 2012.11.11 03:37:00 -
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Remember, in EVE, cloaks are only used to set up the attack. Once committed they are weaker than other tech 2 vessels. They also can't use the cloak to escape combat. If they do it smartly, they will be a side-grade to gank and tank. If they do it wrong it will be broken (either useless or overpowered). I do not want to see cloaking be a "X class only" item. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2012.11.11 04:21:00 -
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2 Million ISK tank. Discussion finished. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2012.11.11 04:24:00 -
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I'd be more worried about the invisible Black Ops LAVs running around crushing people. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.11 04:26:00 -
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Assuming the cloaking mechanics will be copied from Eve Online, this means the following will happen:
- cloak limits mobility on infantry or vehicles not suited for cloaking. Example: a cloaking device fitted on a Rifter will have limited speed and no warp capability compared to a stealth bomber like the Nemesis that can warp while cloaked and has no reduced speed.
- regardless of whether the cloak is fitted on a black ops vehicle or on a standard vehicle, they will not be able to attack unless the cloak is disabled.
- cloak gets disabled upon being locked on by a weapon (vehicle needs to be decloaked first to be locked on)
- cloak has a cooldown timer imposed on it once cloak is broken.
- one cloaked vehicle will not affect the cloak of the other cloaked vehicle even when too close to each other. However, a cloaked vehicle can be decloaked by an uncloaked vehicle that is too close.
Of course, we don't really know what mechanics CCP will change for DUST 514. For all we know, the cloak mechanics would be entirely different from what we see in Eve Online. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2012.11.11 04:29:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:2 Million ISK tank. Discussion finished.
And that's just for the hull alone. |
Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2012.11.11 04:34:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:2 Million ISK tank. Discussion finished. And that's just for the hull alone.
Lol at thinking ISK balance ever works. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2012.11.11 04:38:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:2 Million ISK tank. Discussion finished. And that's just for the hull alone. Lol at thinking ISK balance ever works.
It works for now... until CCP lets us sell out salvage.
But don't forget that one day the market will be player controlled and thus the price of the tank will more than likely shoot up depending on supply and demand. In the meantime, you deserve the right to LOL. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.11 10:28:00 -
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Black ops tanks won't be cloak oriented, they will however get portals!
They'll have the ability to use a special portal generator, sending any one of their passengers to any other valid spawnpoint (objective, default spawn, CRU, etc.) almost instantly :) |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:38:00 -
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Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:40:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:2 Million ISK tank. Discussion finished. And that's just for the hull alone. Lol at thinking ISK balance ever works. It works for now... until CCP lets us sell out salvage. But don't forget that one day the market will be player controlled and thus the price of the tank will more than likely shoot up depending on supply and demand. In the meantime, you deserve the right to LOL.
Titans in EVE...
ISK and SP balance NEVER works. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:59:00 -
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Hm
BO HAV with my fitting will prob reach upto 3mil at least
Statswise it does have a weaker tank and smaller sig i think it says, its also 4/4 with high n low slots
Cloaking will rock but its gonna have to be done right, none of that uncloaking within 50m of something because it makes it useless in this game, chances are it will have a movement penalty, maybe uncloak if someone hit it and maybe cloak shimmer if like normal AR rounds hit it etc |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:42:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I'd be more worried about the invisible Black Ops LAVs running around crushing people.
Cloaking as we know it gets temporarily disabled within a certain range of just about anything. For ground vehicles, hopefully less than 2500m.
I got a laugh on this one though, definitely the kind of thing I'd do before my first cup of coffee.
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Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2012.11.11 19:49:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I'd be more worried about the invisible Black Ops LAVs running around crushing people.
Thinking about this probably made my day. That would be an insane amount of fun.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.11 20:07:00 -
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It's not that big a deal really. Once cloak is activated, no other module can activate. And it's a tank, so it won't be very small, as with eve I am sure there will be a proximity to decloak once you are close enough to it. Worst thing it can do is sneak in, somehow avoiding contact, and position itself to stop an objective from being taken over. Once it goes to shoot, it's cover is blown it is seen and if there is AV around and someone to keep in it's proximity to avoid recloak.. one expensive tank is on fire. let them have their cloaks I say |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:12:00 -
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NOOOO  |
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