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Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:44:00 -
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And delete Dust 514 completely. I already know what you will post, and I know not a single bit will be constructive, either. Kthxbai, cry moar, can I have your stuff, the list really is endless seeing as how none of you really spend any time thinking about this game, but instead spend all your time hating on people that try to say things as they are: This game sucks. Yep, yep, I know this is beta, but it is a 5ish month old beta that hasn't improved at all since it started. In fact, I think it has actually gotten worse since the start. If you disagree with me, well whatever I guess you are easy to please, BUT if you AGREE with me but you still think this game has a chance to become what it COULD be, then I say good luck to you, and I hope the GMs get off their asses and read some of your ideas instead of ignoring you altogether.
Farewell, Space Marines. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:47:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I'm going to go play COD
Logi Bro wrote: I guess you are easy to please.
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Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:48:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:And delete Dust 514 completely. I already know what you will post, and I know not a single bit will be constructive, either. Kthxbai, cry moar, can I have your stuff, the list really is endless seeing as how none of you really spend any time thinking about this game, but instead spend all your time hating on people that try to say things as they are: This game sucks. Yep, yep, I know this is beta, but it is a 5ish month old beta that hasn't improved at all since it started. In fact, I think it has actually gotten worse since the start. If you disagree with me, well whatever I guess you are easy to please, BUT if you AGREE with me but you still think this game has a chance to become what it COULD be, then I say good luck to you, and I hope the GMs get off their asses and read some of your ideas instead of ignoring you altogether.
Farewell, Space Marines. Seriously though, can I have your stuff? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:48:00 -
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Play COD, Who cares. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:50:00 -
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I,ve gone back to bf3 it's like skirmish in dust if you choose conquest only more fun. Thought I'd never say that as bf3 is the worst of the bf franchise.
Makes you realise just how poor this build is, but thats just my opinoin. |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:51:00 -
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What I think is surprising is that you're generalizing all of the immature sentiments that come from the forums to everyone that plays the game. Not everyone is as you say.
As an added note, and I apologizing for sounding rude, but if you're not going to do your job as a BETA tester, why are you even playing? You're carrying unrealistic expectations for what this is.
Also, I think it's funny you point out that no one will saying anything constructive when this post itself is not constructive. If you were tired of this game, why didn't you stop a while ago? |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:56:00 -
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What is the point of threads like these lol.....If you're going to play COD then play COD..no problem. Why make a spectacle about it?
If you have another point to make, then make that point. Because I'm not sure what you want people to say to this. |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:59:00 -
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He will be back by the 21st. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:03:00 -
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The Polish Hammer wrote:What I think is surprising is that you're generalizing all of the immature sentiments that come from the forums to everyone that plays the game. Not everyone is as you say.
As an added note, and I apologizing for sounding rude, but if you're not going to do your job as a BETA tester, why are you even playing? You're carrying unrealistic expectations for what this is.
Also, I think it's funny you point out that no one will saying anything constructive when this post itself is not constructive. If you were tired of this game, why didn't you stop a while ago?
Your first paragraph: Did you read the first three comments? Your second paragraph: I WAS doing my beta testing (as many people were and are STILL doing) and, like I said, this game has gotten worse. I didn't stop playing because I thought maybe CCP could fix this at some point. I WAS carrying unrealistic expectations, and now I see that this game will not become what it should be. Your third paragraph: I'm not arguing with you, I just came here to vent, but I was referring to what other people write on REAL posts, you know, in the thread that was designed to have Feedback/Requests? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:04:00 -
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Sometimes, I get bored with the DUST 514 beta.
I go play Resistance, or Brink (yes, I actually enjoy that), Mirror's Edge, Assassin's Creed (but not multiplayer any more, because Ubisoft broke it, and not ACR or AC3, because they refuse to support their products, so I refuse to support their company), Kingdoms of Amalur, XCOM: Enemy Unknown, or any of the countless other games I have. Then I come back to the DUST 514 beta, and it's fun again.
And if you don't think the beta has improved since it started, you obviously either started MUCH later than you claim (as in... no pre-Codex playtime AT ALL), or you need to relearn the highly valuable skill of actually remembering what happened more than two weeks ago.
The current state of the beta is SO far improved from the E3 build that it's barely even worth TRYING to list the changes. The graphics are practically an order of magnitude better, everything is smoother, there's new toys to play with, most of the bugs that were there are gone - a few have been lessened instead of removed - the new bugs, while annoying, aren't nearly as game-breaking as the old ones... it's HUGELY improved. You can't claim they haven't fixed things and actually be telling the truth. |
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Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:07:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:What is the point of threads like these lol.....If you're going to play COD then play COD..no problem. Why make a spectacle about it?
If you have another point to make, then make that point. Because I'm not sure what you want people to say to this.
I'm saying CCP hasn't put real effort into this, and people seem to be too attached to the idea that this is beta, and everything will be sunshine and rainbows by the time this is fully released, because it won't. |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:19:00 -
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Saying that CCP didn't improve anything during this 5 months is a little bit unfair ...
BUT, I agree with you that we could have more fun in a Zombie game than in this one.
I'll be on COD BO2, but i'll never never never go back to the multiplayer servers. And I think I won't do any solo mission, but zombie would be really fun with good friends.
Well, today, I'm pretty sure that DUST 514 is not the game that we were waiting for (we = me and friends)
I just don't have fun anymore on this game... I'll wait for the next build, but today i think that I lost 40 bucks. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:20:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Sometimes, I get bored with the DUST 514 beta.
I go play Resistance, or Brink (yes, I actually enjoy that), Mirror's Edge, Assassin's Creed (but not multiplayer any more, because Ubisoft broke it, and not ACR or AC3, because they refuse to support their products, so I refuse to support their company), Kingdoms of Amalur, XCOM: Enemy Unknown, or any of the countless other games I have. Then I come back to the DUST 54 beta, and it's fun again.
And if you don't think the beta has improved since it started, you obviously either started MUCH later than you claim (as in... no pre-Codex playtime AT ALL), or you need to relearn the highly valuable skill of actually remembering what happened more than two weeks ago.
The current state of the beta is SO far improved from the E3 build that it's barely even worth TRYING to list the changes. The graphics are practically an order of magnitude better, everything is smoother, there's new toys to play with, most of the bugs that were there are gone - a few have been lessened instead of removed - the new bugs, while annoying, aren't nearly as game-breaking as the old ones... it's HUGELY improved. You can't claim they haven't fixed things and actually be telling the truth.
I see what you are saying, but adding more toys doesn't make the game better. I have to completely disagree with the "everything is smoother" comment, because I have played since E3, and that game was fun. Yeah, we didn't have all the gadgets and gismos that we have now, but it was great, everything was much better balanced (but not not "imperfectly balanced" as it should be) and the game was worth playing. You say that everything has improved, I say YOU need to try to remember, not two weeks ago, but more like two months ago. Two months ago (or maybe a little longer, I'm really bad with time) when all we had was the E3 map, and skirmish started with one side defending and the other attacking. Do you remember that? Back when everyone called in militia vehicles and clogged the game with vehicles, but that didn't matter, because AV actually had a fighting chance, and some people actually played as AV(I was one of them, before I was Logi Bro), back when heavy dropsuits could actually fill their role because they had a substantial amount of armor, back when logistics was actually an important role because only dedicated logi's had gadgets to help their team-mates, back when...well you get the point. I'm saying there was less to use, but there was more to play. |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:26:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote: Your first paragraph: Did you read the first three comments?
Yes, I did read them. My point still stands.
Quote:Your second paragraph: I WAS doing my beta testing (as many people were and are STILL doing) and, like I said, this game has gotten worse. I didn't stop playing because I thought maybe CCP could fix this at some point. I WAS carrying unrealistic expectations, and now I see that this game will not become what it should be.
Really? So you can see that far into the future to know for an absolute fact that this is the best it's going to get? I understand getting jaded after playing for a while, but this might be a tad over dramatic. And I said unrealistic expectations in regards to the Beta itself, not the game that will ultimately come of it. There's obviously still work to be done, so what good does it do to QQ and quit? There stuff broken with heavy suits, missile turrets, lag issue are still present, etc etc etc, but all of that should be expected.
Quote:Your third paragraph: I'm not arguing with you, I just came here to vent, but I was referring to what other people write on REAL posts, you know, in the thread that was designed to have Feedback/Requests?
I'll concede on this one. Some of the suggestions that people give about weapon nerfing/buffing, vehicle stuffs, ect are just flat-out stupid. But I know that feel about needing to vent. Frustration seems to be one thing that is tagged along with Beta's. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:44:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I see what you are saying, but adding more toys doesn't make the game better. I have to completely disagree with the "everything is smoother" comment, because I have played since E3, and that game was fun. Yeah, we didn't have all the gadgets and gismos that we have now, but it was great, everything was much better balanced (but not not "imperfectly balanced" as it should be) and the game was worth playing.
Really? Back when Swarm Launchers were one of the best anti-infantry weapons in the game and also out-performing Forge Guns against anything other than HAVs? You could blind-fire Swarms without a lock, at mid-range or further you could accurately place them on top of a group of players and wipe them out. Then they "hotfixed" them so they had reduced damage vs. Infantry, and a single Swarm Launcher was still about as good as 3 Mass Drivers, except that Swarm Missiles were more likely to actually explode, because about 60 or 70% of Mass Driver projectiles spontaneously vanished without detonating, and they still hit a MUCH wider area. And against LAVs, blind-fire was accurate enough to guarantee the kill at point-blank when now you have to be able to get the lock. Also, blind-fired Swarms were more accurate at longer ranges, so you could just send them down-range and let them wipe out that LAV in the distance.
Quote:You say that everything has improved, I say YOU need to try to remember, not two weeks ago, but more like two months ago. Two months ago (or maybe a little longer, I'm really bad with time) when all we had was the E3 map, and skirmish started with one side defending and the other attacking. Do you remember that? Back when everyone called in militia vehicles and clogged the game with vehicles, but that didn't matter, because AV actually had a fighting chance, and some people actually played as AV(I was one of them, before I was Logi Bro), back when heavy dropsuits could actually fill their role because they had a substantial amount of armor, back when logistics was actually an important role because only dedicated logi's had gadgets to help their team-mates, back when...well you get the point. I'm saying there was less to use, but there was more to play.
I've only been playing the new build for a few days. Before that, I'd taken a break. They had only just introduced Orbital Strikes when I stopped playing - Laser Weapons were confirmed to be on the way, but hadn't shown up yet.
I remember - VERY clearly - the horrific sniper-breaking and long-range AR-breaking deadzone issues that crippled EVERY control scheme for the majority. I remember the way the BPO Dropships used to show up and get 4 kills in a few seconds without a single shot fired. I remember seeing a team redlined by a group of well-fitted Sagaris HAVs that barely cost more than a decent Forge Gun fitting is worth now.
And for the record, my Repair Tool still works fine. And while my previously preferred Scout fittings are a little too frail for my liking in the new build, the tanks are easier to rip open as well. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:53:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:What is the point of threads like these lol.....If you're going to play COD then play COD..no problem. Why make a spectacle about it?
If you have another point to make, then make that point. Because I'm not sure what you want people to say to this. I'm saying CCP hasn't put real effort into this, and people seem to be too attached to the idea that this is beta, and everything will be sunshine and rainbows by the time this is fully released, because it won't.
How do you know? How could you possibly know? If this were an open beta, then I could understand what you're saying but it isn't. |
Shiro Mokuzan
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:08:00 -
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Ca I have your stuff? |
EternalRMG
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:28:00 -
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take a break and come back later dont delete the dust files on your ps3 you will regret that if you do I stopped playin this game about 3 months ago because it was "boring" i deleted everything think on never play this again But last week i wanted to see how was the game if it still was a bad game After 2 day of wait i could finnaly play again... and guess what IT HAD IMPROVE A LOT
you cant see the improvement because you see it all the the time but its alway a tiny improvement if you stopped playin for a while and then returned you COULD see the difference and the changes and you would agree with me THIS GAME HAS FUTURE; THIS GAME IS THE FUTURE (THE FIRST MMO FOR CONSOLES) You can be part of the future and be proud of having helped in it or just see this when its ready and great and everyone will talk about this and then regreting not being part of anything just another player |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:35:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:(THE FIRST MMO FOR CONSOLES)
...because DC Universe Online never happened? |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:42:00 -
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Game is boring if you play only one way, I find this true with most FPS. Change it up, get a HMG, snipe, played with scouts that ran so fast that they capped C before I could get a LAV in on Manus Peak, use REs or proxy mines, fly DSs drive HAV or LAV. Learn to have fun, you see ROFL doing ad hoc racing, I've been thinking of going kamakaze DS ( ram them into HAVs), got into Mass Driverand with all the ladders to get me on hi ground its been fun.
Also not sure if you are but being in a Corp. that has a good community and plays well together help alleviate some of your misgivings. Playing by yourself constantly is the pits, not sure how most do it and have fun. |
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yavor theskillless
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:44:00 -
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Obama DAT wrote:He will be back by the 21st.
fixes are taking too long and i cant see that changing due to the mechanics of ccp>sony etc , they will improve with time and thats a plus for dust as the team get to know their stuff itll push out faster. some valuable players havent been able to play for a long time. probably because the current dev team didnt like the feedback. bring back hilmar, need someone to make some real decisions. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:44:00 -
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This codex build sucks |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:46:00 -
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Hope you will be back. later man and fly safe. |
EternalRMG
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:52:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:EternalRMG wrote:(THE FIRST MMO FOR CONSOLES) ...because DC Universe Online never happened? wasnt as massive a this one will be |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:57:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:And delete Dust 514 completely. I already know what you will post, and I know not a single bit will be constructive, either. Kthxbai, cry moar, can I have your stuff, the list really is endless seeing as how none of you really spend any time thinking about this game, but instead spend all your time hating on people that try to say things as they are: This game sucks. Yep, yep, I know this is beta, but it is a 5ish month old beta that hasn't improved at all since it started. In fact, I think it has actually gotten worse since the start. If you disagree with me, well whatever I guess you are easy to please, BUT if you AGREE with me but you still think this game has a chance to become what it COULD be, then I say good luck to you, and I hope the GMs get off their asses and read some of your ideas instead of ignoring you altogether.
Farewell, Space Marines.
Hopefully the dev's will listen to player input when it launches. Putting the chest beating, flashing e-peen, and trololz; it's sad to see a fellow duster go. This game is a little ruff around the edges.But it'll await your return with 1m sp sitting in skill points for you to use. With that much SP a new tank might be in order. or mow everyone down with the new proto AR. One thing is for sure your dust toon is always waiting for you to come back. To yet another session of endless meat grinders, cluster kittens, and sniper kittens.
Fight in the wire, o/ VK |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.10 19:59:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:EternalRMG wrote:(THE FIRST MMO FOR CONSOLES) ...because DC Universe Online never happened? wasnt as massive a this one will be You said it would be the first console MMO.
There are several other examples, DCUO is probably the best.
No, not AS massive, but still a console MMO. DUST isn't the first. |
Vane Arcadia
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
115
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Posted - 2012.11.10 20:03:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:take a break and come back later dont delete the dust files on your ps3 you will regret that if you do I stopped playin this game about 3 months ago because it was "boring" i deleted everything think on never play this again But last week i wanted to see how was the game if it still was a bad game After 2 day of wait i could finnaly play again... and guess what IT HAD IMPROVE A LOT
you cant see the improvement because you see it all the the time but its alway a tiny improvement if you stopped playin for a while and then returned you COULD see the difference and the changes and you would agree with me THIS GAME HAS FUTURE; THIS GAME IS THE FUTURE (THE FIRST MMO FOR CONSOLES) You can be part of the future and be proud of having helped in it or just see this when its ready and great and everyone will talk about this and then regreting not being part of anything just another player
I think to call this game an mmo is a bit of a stretch. |
Washlee
UnReaL.
131
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Posted - 2012.11.10 20:04:00 -
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I like this game , But COD is going to get in the way. I will keep this game on the side incase of any major updatse . Looking forward for everything in the store to be released. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.10 20:06:00 -
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Vane Arcadia wrote:I think to call this game an mmo is a bit of a stretch. In the game's current state, "lie" would be more accurate than "stretch" but if the current plans for the game's state on release are actually kept up, it should fit the bill. |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
166
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Posted - 2012.11.10 20:09:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:EternalRMG wrote:(THE FIRST MMO FOR CONSOLES) ...because DC Universe Online never happened? wasnt as massive a this one will be
How in anyway do you think this game is a MMO??? Eve is the MMO , this game is connecting to Eve in a small way. From what im seeing this beta is showing more of a tournament style game with a dozen small games between 8 vs 8 players. Thats not a MMO just a bunch of games on a server. From most peoples definition of MMO , it means everyone in the same game at the same time.
As a example I wouldn't pass by a park area set up for chess and go wow chess is a MMG because there is 10 different games being played at a time.
G is for Game because its not online.
Also dont forget final fantasy 11 on the Play station 2 |
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