Very well thought out and interesting idea, just not an NPC contract beyond Beta. +1

It's the substance that would make the difference. In order to keep people from disengaging in the "One Universe, One War" foundation, it would need to be a contested barge that actually belongs to someone/ some corp and have an effect on that corps ability to wage war somewhere. In that way it would give the infantry only people a playground and still be a contribution to the overall gameplay, lore, roleplay, whatever.

This may also lead into an interesting mesh of Eve and Dust, as an Eve corp would first have to disable the barge in space before it could be contested. Borrowing from existing sov mechanics, it might not be terribly difficult to modify to apply to war barges. It would also answer a ton of questions people have asked about whether war barges would be attackable, and if so, conquerable or destructable.

This is a way better idea you have here than some map generated out of thin air for people to play on that has no lasting effect beyond stats.

I hear ya. As much fun as it would be to have Eve ships (f.ex. a Titan) able to be tackled and overrun with mercs, yes it's a long way off. War Barges do not currently exist in Eve, it's a Dust based asset. It is also an asset that corporations will eventually need to build/buy and defend (with Eve fleet support). I'm probably thinking a year or more in advance. For now the NPC contract is probably a good way to go. For now. Until the mechanics are in place for grander things.

I dont see how it would work

Ther is no mention of how the attackers would board the warbarge to start with, its just attackers turn up out of thin air and attack

So its a no

The idea is that one NPC corp manages to hack one of the enemy War Barge CRUs, allowing it to deploy its own mercs inside. Purpose could then be to either capture the War Barge for their own use, or to aim for its destruction. Honestly, i always have slight preference for destruction Lol. Now, gameplay details.

Still how do they get up ther to the warbarge which is orbiting around the planet?

But how does the person get to the warbarge to hack the enemy CRU so everyone else can spawn up ther?

here's my two cents. How about instead of it just being the interior, we have the slight outside of the ship open too. If we have the proper dropsuit, we could actually walk on the outside of the ship, possibly even using explosives or some sort of drill to enter a different part of the War Barge. Also, we could have a special type of dropship (say, larger and having open and closeable doors instead of landing gear). These could pull up in front of airlocks (where you can also exit the ship in the dropsuit) and deposit soldiers inside.

Also, what if we could use that same system for, say, searching derelict ships. It could have the benefit of yielding a greater percentage of the cargo and modules the ship had equipped, while the negative of requiring you to assemble a small, say, three man team.

@Bojo the mighty,
This happens a lot in EVE, and it's never that significant of a problem. Why? Because we added sovereignty to the mix of factors. To avoid what you're suggesting, we just institute a 24-hour response time between when the barge is t\hacked and taken offline, and when it becomes usable by the enemy.

Also, I do know that it's only NPC contracts

i like the idea (even posted similar on feedback/request forum page where this probaly wuild have been beter posted)
beside the warbarge im sure station fight's are quite posible aswel curently on eve to take over station's you kill shield's wait 3 days kill armoure wait 3 days attack hull to take over (furst 2 parts im 100% sure of later i havent payed atentoin to bro's station conqour for 6+ days to lazy :o
we cuild get the merc's contract out when shield are taken out and have them fight for the corp trying to take station this wuild give the defending corp on eve if they are small compared to other corp's to defend succesfully for a smal time in order to get reinforcment on eve side and give merc's a bit more involvement on eve like eve is going to be on dust whit the orbital strike's

and even if attacker's merc's dident win the 3 days cooldown of invrunable state the eve ppl can stil attack the armoure down and send new merc's this time whit difrent map layout cause of several damaged area for the eve ship attack's ofcourse this is something ccp will have to decide seeing its just a sugestion like your sugestion about warbarge fight's

the warbarge fight cuild have 2 winable way's one to capture it and one to blow it up lets say your a poor corp you might wanne keep it intact to use for your own gains altough if the capture is to heavly deffended ppl cuild try head for the engine room to overload or criple the ship making it eazy picking's for eve capsuler's (if the fight hapend in null sec on a crop vs corp contract) yet again this is just a sugestion and some discusion food

altough it will be less lickly these type's of fight's will be avaible for non npc contract's unless it can be made completly exploitfree

Nope

It isnt just done like magic, it needs an action or an event for it to happen

Instead of saying just "no" and being totally against "just cause", you should come with a (better perhaps) idea(s) and contribute with something constructive to this thread.

This idea should be a priority for future game modes.

+1 I would love to see Dust mercs vs Concord NPC gaurds

This is a really great well thought out idea. kudo to you.

wait so...

the players who can't handle playing on a simple open field map are now requesting
fatal funnel maps, like cod, inside a warbarge?

how is changing the location of the fight going to increase the competence level of the players?


don't you have to walk before you run?

this community can't even get out of the crib yet.

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Didnt look through topic, but what you are asking for is Titan mode from BF2142

you guys wanna fight in ship hallways cuz....

well you can't fit a tank in there can ya?


so then you guys wouldn't get redlined.


that's why.

grow up?

how about you nerds quit ducking and diving in an attempt to turn this game into cod.

it seems like that's all you guys really want =
ez mode maps, fatal funnels, camp sniping, no vehicles...

it's all cod, son.

and you guys keep asking for more and more of it.

can't handle the way it is now?
turn it into something you can handle, totally natural response...

which is why all the games out on the market suck today.

cuz you guys can't play em as intended.

you can only play cod.

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When I was 12, all the cool kids called people "son" when they were being self-righteous.

Maybe it's come back into fashion... that WAS quite a while ago now.

ok

so you won't mind then if the vehicles are actually in the war barge?

make the halls big enough for cars and tanks?

no problems, right?

if you guys could actually play on the maps as they are currently, yeah sure... new modes!!


but ya can't!

ya can't play 514 as it is.
and this is what you guys do EVERY time a game comes out:

you can't play it as it is. then you guys start wiggling around trying to figure out how to change it so you can play it.
no wait.... we don't want to change it.
we just want a different game mode. y'know... one with no tanks, no clans, no dropships, limits on gear... oh but it can't be outside... too many camping sissy snipers... so lets put it INSIDE a war barge. y'know with narrow hallways and CQC...er i mean codstyle play.
but no... we don't want to change it.

LOL
you guys sure do work hard to NOT have to play a game as intended.
if you worked this hard to actually be able to play it without them changing it all up so your egos get mashed,

well...
naw you still wouldn't be able to play it. lol

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Would be great if gravity was disabled during a stage of the attack, and players had to traverse in 0 gravity with the help of some ion thrusters.

Amen !

P.S. Had to like this post so I change your like counter to a 4 digit one ;)

So who gets picked to get fired into space and drill into the control panel to open the ventilation panel so they can crawl through the ventilation system while trying to remain undetected and not get lost so they can find the CRU and active it?

I sill love the idea of a war barge fight. Having a war barge map would be just as awesome. I love CQC!

Didn't read through the topic but am picking this for comment.

I think the excact opposite. What dust needs for me, is a wide range of fights so that merc outfits need to adapt to the situations. Some merc corps could to specialize in shotgun range bulldozing and make it their niche. This is where ship fights would come in, extreme close quarters and tactics to accompany.

Just as long range oriented fights are needed IMHO. A wide spectrum = wide specialization of corps, instead of just doign the same thing with FOTM setup.

Edit: naturally, the thing can be both CQC or Midrange. Just pointing out the need for pure CQC :)

Outsourcing.

If your warbarge gets raided while you're undermanned, a mercenary contract goes out, and a bunch of players who are awake & online defend your warbarge for you.