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Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.06 03:09:00 -
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Do you have the log of me complaining about the brackets? I'm pretty sure I'm the one that got it changed, not Sam, it's just they changed it to not what I was asking for (they went back to the very first mockup that said 1st and 2nd place of the same group play in quarter-finals - http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/beta/tournament/Dust514TourneyBrackets2.png), and then decided to not touch it further to avoid more confusion. |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.11.06 03:17:00 -
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No one even remotely cares about you, okay SyN?
I understand Mavado is still butthurt over old clan drama from a dead game, though. |
Hollow M Ling
Doomheim
30
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Posted - 2012.11.06 03:43:00 -
[33] - Quote
Oh numbz |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.11.06 03:47:00 -
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Thank you Mavado for showing that I was not QQing and just pointing his attention, and that it was put back to how it was intended to be.
You shouldn't be QQing about this. It is not an important situation. The brackets were proper and your complaints are a kind of mystery to me. When the typo was in there People where here complaining about it getting messed up. You would of course prefer it had stayed with the typo I guess...
As for what order it should have been in I just went by the picture they provided. I don't care enough about sports to know anything about that. Unless its the Canucks in the playoffs, I don't care about a sport unless I play it.
Also you have to stop kidding yourself and thinking that KEQ and ROFL House fighting each other mattered at all. We fought each other as if we were facing any other group. If anything we were preparing for them as if they were the Imperfects. It was all fun on comms before and after, but during the match we were team vs team. |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.11.06 03:52:00 -
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The only issue ROFL had with the bracket change was that it was unexpected and different from the original bracket. It could have been any corp and Sam would have questioned the change.
The QQ isn't very becoming |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.11.06 03:56:00 -
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SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote:The only issue ROFL had with the bracket change was that it was unexpected and different from the original bracket. It could have been any corp and Sam would have questioned the change.
The QQ isn't very becoming Exactly, I was confused when it deviated from the plan they had put out. |
Lifeamor Lineator
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.11.06 04:50:00 -
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Someone accuses Mavado of QQing on a point, and then to combat it he points out that someone did the same thing in ROFL (albeit, pushing towards an incorrect bracket method for tourneys)...
... and then ROFL brigade shows up and labels Mavado as trying to pick a fight by accusing SAM of QQing? When they started it?
Lol, gotta hand it to ROFL, they know how to turn tables.
But i predict SI and Imps in finals, tbh think its a bit premature to call who would win that fight. Either way sure will be interesting to see results |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.11.06 05:09:00 -
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Being called out on a fallacy and responding is hardly starting a fight.
It's really unfortunate that the brackets weren't set up as KEQ vs Imperfects and ROFL vs SyN. We would have had some knowledge on the Imperfects, and SyN wouldn't have anything to accuse us of on the forums. |
Lifeamor Lineator
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.11.06 05:23:00 -
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SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote:Being called out on a fallacy and responding is hardly starting a fight.
It's really unfortunate that the brackets weren't set up as KEQ vs Imperfects and ROFL vs SyN. We would have had some knowledge on the Imperfects, and SyN wouldn't have anything to accuse us of on the forums.
Exactly, being called out on a fallacy and responding isnt starting a fight, Mavado was responding to ROFL calling him out but you guys were acting as if he was picking a fight. Tbh he did have a point, no tournament is run the way CCP did it, but its useless bringing it up now.
Anyways not my fight to fight, i just am somewhat tedious about logic, it goes with my profession. Ironically, that makes me illogical because this place is like Plato's cave.
In any case, you two should fight it out in true New Eden style, and then shake hands and give your gfs |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.11.06 05:26:00 -
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I think we would both really enjoy a good fight, but 8v8 is just bad lol. Once the game is 16v16 I expect a lot more contracts to be put up. |
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SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.11.06 05:47:00 -
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Lifeamor Lineator wrote:SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote:Being called out on a fallacy and responding is hardly starting a fight.
It's really unfortunate that the brackets weren't set up as KEQ vs Imperfects and ROFL vs SyN. We would have had some knowledge on the Imperfects, and SyN wouldn't have anything to accuse us of on the forums. Exactly, being called out on a fallacy and responding isnt starting a fight, Mavado was responding to ROFL calling him out but you guys were acting as if he was picking a fight. Tbh he did have a point, no tournament is run the way CCP did it, but its useless bringing it up now. Anyways not my fight to fight, i just am somewhat tedious about logic, it goes with my profession. Ironically, that makes me illogical because this place is like Plato's cave. In any case, you two should fight it out in true New Eden style, and then shake hands and give your gfs I really do not like to get into things and was only responding to Mavado, and only bothered to respond to him because I use to play with him.
I could be wrong and would like to be corrected, but no ROFL member was calling out Mavado, he was just using that as an example and then trying to defend himself. I am just glad that he provided the records to show he was wrong.
That said, this thread shouldn't turn into a drama thing. Lets just enjoy playing DUST and having fun in the tournament CCP put on for us. I hope they get a lot of data out of these matches so they can see what good players fighting each other is like. I feel it may be important for balancing info. |
Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.11.06 11:35:00 -
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I'll first state that I'm speaking on behalf of myself in this instance, not my corporation, if they want they can reprimand me for it later. Now, let me make something abundantly clear.
It makes absolutely no sense for two teams going 3-0 to knock each other out in the quarter finals, and to let some 2-1 team pass a 3-0 team. Secondly, ROFL has much stronger players, more dedicated specialists, and more solid match leadership from our separate-in-dust KEQ counterpart. You're correct in stating that the original match brackets were wrong, KEQ probably should've been group 3 and another team from group 3 in our group 4. You are however incorrect in implying that somehow the match was thrown -- play 10 corporation matches with ROFL, play 10 corporation matches with KEQ, I'm pretty sure you'll more clearly understand the difference by then, since you obviously don't now.
Nevertheless, it wouldn't change the result that the strongest teams have made it to the finals. I've seen the teams, I know how they play. Quite frankly even STB is better than SyN, and they didn't even get into the tournament. You were happy as could be when you felt so sure two 3-0 teams were going to knock each other out, but oh so sad after they fixed the brackets back.
Roughly half of ROFL wanted to fight Imperfects (myself included) on this previous weekend, I didn't personally want the bracket to revert back, but it wouldn't have made sense for either us or the Imperfects to lose out due to improper tourney seeding.
Lastly, let's be realistic, you didn't have any chance of winning the tournament anyway, considering the fiercest competition stomped you out (likely easily I suspect), so ultimately you can choose to be bitter about it, or you can go root for another team to win.
P.S. I've never been impressed by any of the scrubs in your corp, besides "Example Core" who's probably the best on foot player you have, everyone else isn't really up to par. Now go find something else to do. Adios. |
Lifeamor Lineator
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:34:00 -
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Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:I'll first state that I'm speaking on behalf of myself in this instance, not my corporation, if they want they can reprimand me for it later. Now, let me make something abundantly clear.
It makes absolutely no sense for two teams going 3-0 to knock each other out in the quarter finals, and to let some 2-1 team pass a 3-0 team. Secondly, ROFL has much stronger players, more dedicated specialists, and more solid match leadership from our separate-in-dust KEQ counterpart. You're correct in stating that the original match brackets were wrong, KEQ probably should've been group 3 and another team from group 3 in our group 4. You are however incorrect in implying that somehow the match was thrown -- play 10 corporation matches with ROFL, play 10 corporation matches with KEQ, I'm pretty sure you'll more clearly understand the difference by then, since you obviously don't now.
Nevertheless, it wouldn't change the result that the strongest teams have made it to the finals. I've seen the teams, I know how they play. Quite frankly even STB is better than SyN, and they didn't even get into the tournament. You were happy as could be when you felt so sure two 3-0 teams were going to knock each other out, but oh so sad after they fixed the brackets back.
Roughly half of ROFL wanted to fight Imperfects (myself included) on this previous weekend, I didn't personally want the bracket to revert back, but it wouldn't have made sense for either us or the Imperfects to lose out due to improper tourney seeding.
Lastly, let's be realistic, you didn't have any chance of winning the tournament anyway, considering the fiercest competition stomped you out (likely easily I suspect), so ultimately you can choose to be bitter about it, or you can go root for another team to win.
P.S. I've never been impressed by any of the scrubs in your corp, besides "Example Core" who's probably the best on foot player you have, everyone else isn't really up to par. Now go find something else to do. Adios.
I guess you didnt read what Mavado was suggesting, he was suggesting the proper style like any sport tournament would have.
It would be ROFL vs SyN,
A1 (1 representing place they got in thier group, letter representing group) vs B2 A2 vs B1 C1 vs D2 D1 vs C2
Its the most accurate way since it allows a 1st place grp team to prove they are worthy of the position and a 2nd place grp team the opportunity to prove they are better and just positioned in a difficult grp. |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
216
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:11:00 -
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You play who they put in front of you....it's that simple. End of Story
People have been complaing about the BCS for years but that doesn't stop them from handing out a trophy every year. You may not like it but you either live with it or you don't play/watch it.
IMO, it would have been more advantageous from our perspective for ROFL House to have played SyN and KEQ played Imperfects but that's not my decision, it's CCP's and ROFL House just played who they put in front of us in the bracket. All of this conspiracy theory is a joke. Nobody likes losing so to think KEQ rolled over for ROFL House is pretty stupid. If Imperfects/SyN were mulitple clans in the same group then I highly doubt any of their guys would want to roll over for the other. If anything they play you harder to prove a point. |
Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2012.11.06 15:44:00 -
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Enjoy your spawn camp next weekend ROFL. Should be fun. |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
402
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:00:00 -
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COMBO BREAKER |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:09:00 -
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The previous two comments were totally necessary |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:19:00 -
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ReGnUM>IMP> SyN> SI> ROLF> ZION> EVERYONE ELSE> STB
HAPPY |
Hollow M Ling
Doomheim
30
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:20:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:Enjoy your spawn camp next weekend ROFL. Should be fun. Thanks for your wonderful words of encouragement |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
402
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:26:00 -
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Jaiden Longshot wrote:You play who they put in front of you....it's that simple. End of Story
People have been complaing about the BCS for years but that doesn't stop them from handing out a trophy every year. You may not like it but you either live with it or you don't play/watch it.
IMO, it would have been more advantageous from our perspective for ROFL House to have played SyN and KEQ played Imperfects but that's not my decision, it's CCP's and ROFL House just played who they put in front of us in the bracket. All of this conspiracy theory is a joke. Nobody likes losing so to think KEQ rolled over for ROFL House is pretty stupid. If Imperfects/SyN were mulitple clans in the same group then I highly doubt any of their guys would want to roll over for the other. If anything they play you harder to prove a point.
Says the guy who got in a easy bracket, and plays against another branch of his own team. Pretty shady if you ask me ;/
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mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:37:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:Enjoy your spawn camp next weekend ROFL. Should be fun. Says the guy on the outside, looking in.
@regnum: you infer that somehow rofl had any say in how the teams were seeded.
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Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:43:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:Eternal Technique wrote:Enjoy your spawn camp next weekend ROFL. Should be fun. Says the guy on the outside, looking in. @regnum: you infer that somehow rofl had any say in how the teams were seeded.
I'm not the only one saying it |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:50:00 -
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No worries. Since we're in this giant conspiracy with CCP, they'll activate godmode for our characters, and we'll cheat to win. |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
216
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:05:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Jaiden Longshot wrote:You play who they put in front of you....it's that simple. End of Story
People have been complaing about the BCS for years but that doesn't stop them from handing out a trophy every year. You may not like it but you either live with it or you don't play/watch it.
IMO, it would have been more advantageous from our perspective for ROFL House to have played SyN and KEQ played Imperfects but that's not my decision, it's CCP's and ROFL House just played who they put in front of us in the bracket. All of this conspiracy theory is a joke. Nobody likes losing so to think KEQ rolled over for ROFL House is pretty stupid. If Imperfects/SyN were mulitple clans in the same group then I highly doubt any of their guys would want to roll over for the other. If anything they play you harder to prove a point. Says the guy who got in a easy bracket, and plays against another branch of his own team. Pretty shady if you ask me ;/
The Butthurt is strong with this one....
Again I say that you hear this all of the time in sports but most noteably in BCS debates and NCAA Basketball Tourney Seeding. All things that neither you, I, or anyone else on the outside has control over.
Just go cry in shower with your clothes on and get it all out of your system. |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:08:00 -
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The accusations of cheating are hilarious.
This weekend is going to be the best matches played on DUST so far, and it isn't a coincidence that SyN won't be included :) |
Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:08:00 -
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Jaiden Longshot wrote:ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Jaiden Longshot wrote:You play who they put in front of you....it's that simple. End of Story
People have been complaing about the BCS for years but that doesn't stop them from handing out a trophy every year. You may not like it but you either live with it or you don't play/watch it.
IMO, it would have been more advantageous from our perspective for ROFL House to have played SyN and KEQ played Imperfects but that's not my decision, it's CCP's and ROFL House just played who they put in front of us in the bracket. All of this conspiracy theory is a joke. Nobody likes losing so to think KEQ rolled over for ROFL House is pretty stupid. If Imperfects/SyN were mulitple clans in the same group then I highly doubt any of their guys would want to roll over for the other. If anything they play you harder to prove a point. Says the guy who got in a easy bracket, and plays against another branch of his own team. Pretty shady if you ask me ;/ The Butthurt is strong with this one.... Again I say that you hear this all of the time in sports but most noteably in BCS debates and NCAA Basketball Tourney Seeding. All things that neither you, I, or anyone else on the outside has control over. Just got cry in shower with your clothes on and get it all out of your system.
Why would Regnum be butthurt? Last I checked they were favored to win the tournament..... |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
216
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:49:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:Jaiden Longshot wrote:ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Jaiden Longshot wrote:You play who they put in front of you....it's that simple. End of Story
People have been complaing about the BCS for years but that doesn't stop them from handing out a trophy every year. You may not like it but you either live with it or you don't play/watch it.
IMO, it would have been more advantageous from our perspective for ROFL House to have played SyN and KEQ played Imperfects but that's not my decision, it's CCP's and ROFL House just played who they put in front of us in the bracket. All of this conspiracy theory is a joke. Nobody likes losing so to think KEQ rolled over for ROFL House is pretty stupid. If Imperfects/SyN were mulitple clans in the same group then I highly doubt any of their guys would want to roll over for the other. If anything they play you harder to prove a point. Says the guy who got in a easy bracket, and plays against another branch of his own team. Pretty shady if you ask me ;/ The Butthurt is strong with this one.... Again I say that you hear this all of the time in sports but most noteably in BCS debates and NCAA Basketball Tourney Seeding. All things that neither you, I, or anyone else on the outside has control over. Just got cry in shower with your clothes on and get it all out of your system. Why would Regnum be butthurt? Last I checked they were favored to win the tournament.....
Don't know.....Why don't both of you get together and work out why you continue to blame ROFL for the tourney bracket. So much QQ over a Beta Tourney that should be friendly competition....and well, a beta
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