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Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.11.05 07:35:00 -
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So for some reason I've recently been getting games on the American server and quite frankly it's in a pitiful state. Nearly everyone is either a tank driver, a dropship pilot/gunner or running an assault suit with an AR. Why doesn't anyone use anything else? I would also like to say- why does everyone call in vehicles in ambush? On the AU server ambush was usually for infantry fights and skirmish was where people used vehicles. All of yougo on about how good you are, so why don't you use vehicles in skirmish where it's more challenging?
I'm not saying you can't use vehicles I'm just saying if your so good then use them in skirmish where people can use turrets and actually come close to destroying you.
CCP please stop giving me US games as they aren't anywhere near as fun as AU games are. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
810
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Posted - 2012.11.05 08:03:00 -
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A lot of US corps have played enough to get the basic idea, and are now just trying to break things. In the long run, it's the better approach to a beta if the intent is to help balance the gameplay. |
Radioship
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.11.05 08:25:00 -
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If i remember correctly Singularity is a single cluster that doesn't different people by location. i.e. theres no US/EU servers, theres one single server for everyone. Also if you play at EU night, its most likely you get people from US timezone. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2012.11.05 08:29:00 -
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Radioship wrote:If i remember correctly Singularity is a single cluster that doesn't different people by location. i.e. theres no US/EU servers, theres one single server for everyone. Also if you play at EU night, its most likely you get people from US timezone. Wrong. There's US/EU battleservers. Australian as well, not sure about Asian.
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Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.11.05 08:30:00 -
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Radioship wrote:If i remember correctly Singularity is a single cluster that doesn't different people by location. i.e. theres no US/EU servers, theres one single server for everyone. Also if you play at EU night, its most likely you get people from US timezone.
Well from what's I've heard it is separated by location |
Radioship
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.11.05 08:31:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Radioship wrote:If i remember correctly Singularity is a single cluster that doesn't different people by location. i.e. theres no US/EU servers, theres one single server for everyone. Also if you play at EU night, its most likely you get people from US timezone. Wrong. There's US/EU battleservers. Australian as well, not sure about Asian. Is there any ccp post or news topic? I always though its a single server for DUST too. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2012.11.05 08:33:00 -
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Radioship wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Radioship wrote:If i remember correctly Singularity is a single cluster that doesn't different people by location. i.e. theres no US/EU servers, theres one single server for everyone. Also if you play at EU night, its most likely you get people from US timezone. Wrong. There's US/EU battleservers. Australian as well, not sure about Asian. Is there any ccp post or news topic? I always though its a single server for DUST too. Everyone connects to the same server, Singularity, but there are different battleservers. |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2012.11.05 09:11:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Radioship wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Radioship wrote:If i remember correctly Singularity is a single cluster that doesn't different people by location. i.e. theres no US/EU servers, theres one single server for everyone. Also if you play at EU night, its most likely you get people from US timezone. Wrong. There's US/EU battleservers. Australian as well, not sure about Asian. Is there any ccp post or news topic? I always though its a single server for DUST too. Everyone connects to the same server, Singularity, but there are different battleservers.
This sexy man speaks the truth.
Also vehicles in ambush is natural, anti infantry is just common sense but I do agree, I would never think "tank" when ambush is defined as "element of surprise".
Also what happens to those who spec only in vehicles / only in anti vehicle? They would be wasting their time inn skirmish until they get relevant skills.
I'm a forge gunner and don't do too well when there's no vehicles. |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
362
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Posted - 2012.11.05 09:14:00 -
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Yea, we're only on one server for data storage purposes. All the grunt work is being done by the various battle nodes. Although I'm sure when the game goes live we'll all be in one place. Hope so anyway/ |
Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.11.05 11:14:00 -
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To answer your question of why? A legitimate reason: it's all they're really specced for so that's how they make their isk, it just so usually happens that the people who choose to make a living doing this get fairly good at it.
The less legitimate but no less accurate answer: because they're stat padding scrubs.
Case by case basis you can usually tell which is which. |
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Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.11.05 11:41:00 -
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Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:To answer your question of why? A legitimate reason: it's all they're really specced for so that's how they make their isk, it just so usually happens that the people who choose to make a living doing this get fairly good at it.
The less legitimate but no less accurate answer: because they're stat padding scrubs.
Case by case basis you can usually tell which is which.
I understand that if that's what people spec into then that's what they'll want to use and I can respect that. I am speccing into tanks as a more of a side project to use for fun every now and then. But I have some friends in my corp that have sagaris's and still play infantry. I don't know why they have to bring vehicles to ambush when they're obviously going to slaughter everyone because there's no easy way to become organised in it.
I guess I just expected that the type of people attracted to this game would also be attracted to challenges. I find it much more fun to gamble my expensive stuff in tough matches and getting that thrill when you charge into a group of enemies breaking through their lines, coming close to death but being saved by your friends in your corp.
Well at least not everyone does it. Had some fun duels against you in my heavy and I can honestly say the few matches I had against you were some of the best I've had. You probably didn't see me but they were fun nonetheless. Anyway after a few games I started finding more enjoyable ones, but as they say a first impression is everything and this one left a bad taste in my mouth. |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.11.05 11:44:00 -
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The only time I call a tank in on ambush is if there's one on the enemy team or a dropship terrorising the map. There's a lot of stat padders out there using vehicles solely in ambush as it's easy mode quite frankly. I find Ambush boring tbh and generally play Skirmish.
Nine times out of ten when I've been on the US servers there's always the same corp using vehicles in ambush and you never see them in Skirmish. It happens in the EU still, but there's people doing it 24/7 for easy kills with little worry of being destroyed. Each to their own I guess. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
53
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Posted - 2012.11.05 12:13:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:So for some reason I've recently been getting games on the American server and quite frankly it's in a pitiful state. Nearly everyone is either a tank driver, a dropship pilot/gunner or running an assault suit with an AR. Why doesn't anyone use anything else? I guessed you missed the part where some people headshot snipe you from across the map, gun you down with a HMG at close quarters while watching your squadmate get pwned by the Heavy's Scout buddy with a shotgun, or Free Healing's Logi suit behind you when he revived you, repaired you, and rearmed you. Or my personal favorite, calling in an LAV and using it's super stealth sneaky-sneak motor to run you over from behind.
Tectonious Falcon wrote:I would also like to say- why does everyone call in vehicles in ambush? On the AU server ambush was usually for infantry fights and skirmish was where people used vehicles. All of yougo on about how good you are, so why don't you use vehicles in skirmish where it's more challenging? Ok, so let's not use vehicles.
Tectonious Falcon wrote:I'm not saying you can't use vehicles... Wait...
Tectonious Falcon wrote:...I'm just saying if your so good then use them in skirmish where people can use turrets and actually come close to destroying you.
CCP please stop giving me US games as they aren't anywhere near as fun as AU games are. Run in a squad, not a pre-determined one that the matchmaking gives you, but a squad of people you can talk too. Vehicles go down pretty quick with 4 forge guns. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.11.05 12:16:00 -
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I use everything but ar , and I suck at driving so yea |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.11.05 12:31:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Tectonious Falcon wrote:So for some reason I've recently been getting games on the American server and quite frankly it's in a pitiful state. Nearly everyone is either a tank driver, a dropship pilot/gunner or running an assault suit with an AR. Why doesn't anyone use anything else? I guessed you missed the part where some people headshot snipe you from across the map, gun you down with a HMG at close quarters while watching your squadmate get pwned by the Heavy's Scout buddy with a shotgun, or Free Healing's Logi suit behind you when he revived you, repaired you, and rearmed you. Or my personal favorite, calling in an LAV and using it's super stealth sneaky-sneak motor to run you over from behind. Tectonious Falcon wrote:I would also like to say- why does everyone call in vehicles in ambush? On the AU server ambush was usually for infantry fights and skirmish was where people used vehicles. All of yougo on about how good you are, so why don't you use vehicles in skirmish where it's more challenging? Ok, so let's not use vehicles. Tectonious Falcon wrote:I'm not saying you can't use vehicles... Wait... Tectonious Falcon wrote:...I'm just saying if your so good then use them in skirmish where people can use turrets and actually come close to destroying you.
CCP please stop giving me US games as they aren't anywhere near as fun as AU games are. Run in a squad, not a pre-determined one that the matchmaking gives you, but a squad of people you can talk too. Vehicles go down pretty quick with 4 forge guns.
Are you deliberately misunderstanding the post? I'm sick of people nonstop calling in vehicles and claiming they're so good when they use them on ambush, where it's basically easy mode. Your use of quoting was in a good format (if a little overused with the "wait") even though you quoted me on the wrong parts. I never said stop using vehicles. This is only part of the post, I'll let you use your reading comprehension skills to find some of the more subtle and underlying messages.
"vehicles go down pretty quickly to 4 forge guns" not necessarily true and 4 forge gunners go down incredibly fast to anyone with skill or practice, provided that the forgers aren't sniping from a easily defended area.
Also telling me to run with a squad solves absolutely nothing. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to find three other corp mates that specialise in AV just to play the game. Sometimes I would rather play solo and enjoy the challenges, however being repeatedly blown up is not challenging its downright boring and a waste of time.
Another thing- taking things out of context to make it look like I want vehicles gone, is a bit of an arse thing to do don't you think? Especially with your thread crying about dropships, when all I'm saying is stop using them as much in easy mode ambush |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
53
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Posted - 2012.11.05 12:32:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:I understand that if that's what people spec into then that's what they'll want to use and I can respect that. I am speccing into tanks as a more of a side project to use for fun every now and then. But I have some friends in my corp that have sagaris's and still play infantry. I don't know why they have to bring vehicles to ambush when they're obviously going to slaughter everyone because there's no easy way to become organised in it.
I guess I just expected that the type of people attracted to this game would also be attracted to challenges. I find it much more fun to gamble my expensive stuff in tough matches and getting that thrill when you charge into a group of enemies breaking through their lines, coming close to death but being saved by your friends in your corp.
Well at least not everyone does it. Had some fun duels against you in my heavy and I can honestly say the few matches I had against you were some of the best I've had. You probably didn't see me but they were fun nonetheless. Anyway after a few games I started finding more enjoyable ones, but as they say a first impression is everything and this one left a bad taste in my mouth. This was my first impression.
Sadly, first impressions only work when it's your first exposure... sorry that your first impression left a bad taste in your mouth...
But remember, right now, it's still in a Closed Beta. Maybe they'll have an Open Beta. There's still many things that need addressing, many fixes that need patched, many balance issues that need work... it's a work in progress.
Attracted to challenges? You bet! Have a raged when I tried to solo a Gunlogi with my Heavy Type-I with a Breach Forge gun and lost? You bet! But I learned that it's a team game, not a solo sport. Sure there may be times where you turned the tide at the last second, but from my experience, that turning of the tide happens more when you get a team that you communicate with over mics. Maybe your team is down by 30 and there's no hope in winning the match. Then play strategically and know that you might lose this fight but win the war later on down the road. Save that Sagaris you've got in your pocket for when your team is full of corpmates willing to cover you. Save that 100,000 ISK dropsuit for another time so you don't get blown to smithereens by the enemy encircling dropship. Remember your enemies! They may have tips for you. They may be your friends or future corpmates down the road. And if they are your enemies again, you will remember that it was them that had a tank or a dropship, blasting away at your teammates; bring your squad together a devise a strategy to take them out, or strategically retreat with Militia gear, knowing your ISK was well saved! |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.11.05 12:40:00 -
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As stated earlier, we are just breaking things for the betterment of DUST. Put it this way; better to find something like this problem now than later on when the game is released. That way, CCP can try to balance it further. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.11.05 12:51:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:As stated earlier, we are just breaking things for the betterment of DUST. Put it this way; better to find something like this problem now than later on when the game is released. That way, CCP can try to balance it further.
Except for the fact that Instead of releasing many small little patches and tweaks for balance, CCP usually does everything at once, which results in things becoming worse as they break more than they fix half the time. I personally hate that excuse because it promotes the "I can and should exploit everything and anything I can" feeling and once people are used to that in the beta, it'll continue past release. At this stage just about everyone knows that missile turrets are OP with their OHK's and that swarms are broken and I think CCP knows it too. That means there is no longer a need to continue breaking the same things and that people who are doing this for "the good of the beta" should move on and find something else to break.
Also there is many times when this excuse can't be used. For example why are people calling vehicles in to ambush, where they know there's almost no danger? Why do they do it continually, while almost never touching skirmish? It's because it's easy mode for them and they like to pad their stats and go on about how "skilled" they are. |
Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.11.05 13:42:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:To answer your question of why? A legitimate reason: it's all they're really specced for so that's how they make their isk, it just so usually happens that the people who choose to make a living doing this get fairly good at it.
The less legitimate but no less accurate answer: because they're stat padding scrubs.
Case by case basis you can usually tell which is which. I understand that if that's what people spec into then that's what they'll want to use and I can respect that. I am speccing into tanks as a more of a side project to use for fun every now and then. But I have some friends in my corp that have sagaris's and still play infantry. I don't know why they have to bring vehicles to ambush when they're obviously going to slaughter everyone because there's no easy way to become organised in it. I guess I just expected that the type of people attracted to this game would also be attracted to challenges. I find it much more fun to gamble my expensive stuff in tough matches and getting that thrill when you charge into a group of enemies breaking through their lines, coming close to death but being saved by your friends in your corp. Well at least not everyone does it. Had some fun duels against you in my heavy and I can honestly say the few matches I had against you were some of the best I've had. You probably didn't see me but they were fun nonetheless. Anyway after a few games I started finding more enjoyable ones, but as they say a first impression is everything and this one left a bad taste in my mouth.
I remember you, and always appreciate a good fight. It's nothing less than what I intend to bring each time. Hope to see you around again, I can respect the gun game the southern legion brings. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.11.05 15:18:00 -
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Adapt or die. |
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.11.05 15:30:00 -
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I know as a heavy I'm suppose to stand 'toe to toe' with vehicles, but i'm probably worse off then other classes. I'm really just a sitting target for turrets and LAV's zooming down the road.
But you see, instead of crying about it like your australian butt is doing, I went and got a proto-forge gun and AV granades. It's very enjoyable one shooting tanks and dropships. The only dropship I fear are ones from Imperfect. Nearly have 1k health/shield combined, they still one shot me, and dying with these forge guns costs a pretty penny :( |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.11.05 15:33:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:So for some reason I've recently been getting games on the American server and quite frankly it's in a pitiful state. Nearly everyone is either a tank driver, a dropship pilot/gunner or running an assault suit with an AR. Why doesn't anyone use anything else? I would also like to say- why does everyone call in vehicles in ambush? On the AU server ambush was usually for infantry fights and skirmish was where people used vehicles. All of yougo on about how good you are, so why don't you use vehicles in skirmish where it's more challenging?
I'm not saying you can't use vehicles I'm just saying if your so good then use them in skirmish where people can use turrets and actually come close to destroying you.
CCP please stop giving me US games as they aren't anywhere near as fun as AU games are.
Because if I play on foot, no one survives. -_- |
Cameron StarGazer
Liandri Hel-Jumpers Liandri Covenant
4
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Posted - 2012.11.05 16:59:00 -
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Bunch of Americans driving around in heavy machinery... Sounds exactly like Americans to me, don't see the problem. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.11.05 19:35:00 -
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single shard universe, EvE. but different battle servers
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18627&find=unread
[North America] - 173.193.23.235 [Europe] - 159.253.143.196 [Asia] - 216.12.196.114 [Australia] - 27.50.71.1 |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2012.11.05 19:46:00 -
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It's good to have a basic AR class. I mostly run them because Im speced into heavies that are only Ideal in certain situations do to low mobility. |
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