DUST Search - FYI: lag or something is making game become unplayable

HEAT SoulRipper wrote:

CCP Frame wrote:

Hi,

Did you start experiencing this exclusively after the downtime that happened on 31st? Also could you please tell us which game mode were you playing when you first experienced this issue?

Thank you.

-- All evening since 1800 hrs CST until now 2300 hrs CST
-- ALL game modes
--ALL maps

CCP I feel the player base would agree, I strongly suggest you do something about this lag and these issues. The player base is not asking for much, we'd like to be kept informed, I feel as the players who are doing the testing for you (and some of us who paid you) we should at least get something in return for our efforts, to know we're making a difference somehow.

And don't take that as "Show us your play book" but toss us a broad view of what you're working on, something.

I wouldn't be the only one who feels this way when I say this.......

PLEASE take the servers down for 24...48 or heck...72 hours to replace the hardware, rebuild the servers, do what you need to do to fix this.

The servers are in no state to return accurate data. You'd keep your players more interested in this test if we had a solid platform to use.

And not to rub salt into the wound....but this whole double skill points........you should have brought the servers down and or rolled back whatever you did, admitted something didn't go as planned and said it's on hold until you fix it. Because as of right now, it's kind of embarrassing for this not to be working.

You'd be amazed at how forgiving the people would be if you were just keeping them informed and were honest. Knowing the whole time it's a beta and you're doing something new and there will be trip up's along the way. We understand that, we do.

Just saying...so there's my 0.02.

Thanks for reading this (I hope).

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xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.10.31 18:36:00 - [1] - Quote Dont know if it helps but, time here is 18.30pm in the UK Game is becoming unplayable (I presume due to the lag) people teleporting, running as if frame rates have dropped etc. Its been bad since i logged in but getting progressively worse. Had to stop.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.11.01 00:22:00 - [2] - Quote Yep same here
HEAT SoulRipper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 45	Posted - 2012.11.01 00:33:00 - [3] - Quote Same, Central US
Chosokabe Ite Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 72	Posted - 2012.11.01 02:11:00 - [4] - Quote Central US I've been getting lag from hell! My last match was a waste of ISK. I couldn't hit anything! Whenever I pressed the fire button, it would fire a second and a half later, missing every shot. Then the next frame, I'm on the ground seeing red. I'm starting to loose patience(And boy have I've been patient) . I know this is a beta and It's unfinished but for the love of everything that is good, can we at least have stable gameplay to test with? If this kind of problem continues after beta, Dust is going to be raged out of existence hours after launch. And if It turns out I wasted all year testing a failed game that I had been supporting since 2009, I might just punch myself in the temple. Sorry if that sounded a little too over the top but I'm extremely annoyed. I'm starting to think this double SP thing is meant to compensate for the lag issues.
HEAT SoulRipper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 45	Posted - 2012.11.01 02:15:00 - [5] - Quote Chosokabe Ite wrote: Central US I've been getting lag from hell! My last match was a waste of ISK. I couldn't hit anything! Whenever I pressed the fire button, it would fire a second and a half later, missing every shot. Then the next frame, I'm on the ground seeing red. I'm starting to loose patience(And boy have I've been patient) . I know this is a beta and It's unfinished but for the love of everything that is good, can we at least have stable gameplay to test with? If this kind of problem continues after beta, Dust is going to be raged out of existence hours after launch. And if It turns out I wasted all year testing a failed game that I had been supporting since 2009, I might just punch myself in the temple. Sorry if that sounded a little too over the top but I'm extremely annoyed. I'm starting to think this double SP thing is meant to compensate for the lag issues. Naw...you're not the only one feeling that way. Over the top would have been.... .. "I might just punch myself in the kittens!"
Chosokabe Ite Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 72	Posted - 2012.11.01 02:17:00 - [6] - Quote HEAT SoulRipper wrote: Naw...you're not the only one feeling that way. Over the top would have been.... .. "I might just punch myself in the kittens!" What about, "I might just punch my kittens in the temple?"
HEAT SoulRipper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 45	Posted - 2012.11.01 02:25:00 - [7] - Quote Chosokabe Ite wrote: HEAT SoulRipper wrote: Naw...you're not the only one feeling that way. Over the top would have been.... .. "I might just punch myself in the kittens!" What about, "I might just punch my kittens in the temple?" Works for me, but I've never been a kitten person, so you won't hear me cry over spilled milk.

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 470	Posted - 2012.11.01 03:54:00 - [8] - Quote Hi, Did you start experiencing this exclusively after the downtime that happened on 31st? Also could you please tell us which game mode were you playing when you first experienced this issue? Thank you.

D3aTH D3alER54 The Southern Legion 130	Posted - 2012.11.01 03:57:00 - [9] - Quote Seens to be all fine here in AUS.
HEAT SoulRipper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 45	Posted - 2012.11.01 04:13:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hi, Did you start experiencing this exclusively after the downtime that happened on 31st? Also could you please tell us which game mode were you playing when you first experienced this issue? Thank you. -- All evening since 1800 hrs CST until now 2300 hrs CST -- ALL game modes --ALL maps CCP I feel the player base would agree, I strongly suggest you do something about this lag and these issues. The player base is not asking for much, we'd like to be kept informed, I feel as the players who are doing the testing for you (and some of us who paid you) we should at least get something in return for our efforts, to know we're making a difference somehow. And don't take that as "Show us your play book" but toss us a broad view of what you're working on, something. I wouldn't be the only one who feels this way when I say this....... PLEASE take the servers down for 24...48 or heck...72 hours to replace the hardware, rebuild the servers, do what you need to do to fix this. The servers are in no state to return accurate data. You'd keep your players more interested in this test if we had a solid platform to use. And not to rub salt into the wound....but this whole double skill points........you should have brought the servers down and or rolled back whatever you did, admitted something didn't go as planned and said it's on hold until you fix it. Because as of right now, it's kind of embarrassing for this not to be working. You'd be amazed at how forgiving the people would be if you were just keeping them informed and were honest. Knowing the whole time it's a beta and you're doing something new and there will be trip up's along the way. We understand that, we do. Just saying...so there's my 0.02. Thanks for reading this (I hope).

xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.11.01 14:21:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hi, Did you start experiencing this exclusively after the downtime that happened on 31st? Also could you please tell us which game mode were you playing when you first experienced this issue? Thank you. there was lag before the 31st but the teleporting etc that i mentioned was after yesterdays downtime. It was prevalent on all maps. I logged back in about 9.30pm and shield flashing was still prevalent. this build I have been grouping with US players. Dont know if that makes a difference. But generally this build I have experienced a lot more lag, a kind of rubber banding, and a huge amount of shield flashing than when I played on the EU servers. the teleporting etc is a first. But also noticeable this build is my shield/ armour disappears after a very noticeable delay and I am dead after they have stopped firing. I often notice this in 1 on 1s and I think I am winning the gun battle as it doesnt look like the player is hitting me
Dreylor Thunderfall Conspiratus Immortalis 44	Posted - 2012.11.01 18:00:00 - [12] - Quote HEAT SoulRipper wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hi, Did you start experiencing this exclusively after the downtime that happened on 31st? Also could you please tell us which game mode were you playing when you first experienced this issue? Thank you. -- All evening since 1800 hrs CST until now 2300 hrs CST -- ALL game modes --ALL maps CCP I feel the player base would agree, I strongly suggest you do something about this lag and these issues. The player base is not asking for much, we'd like to be kept informed, I feel as the players who are doing the testing for you (and some of us who paid you) we should at least get something in return for our efforts, to know we're making a difference somehow. And don't take that as "Show us your play book" but toss us a broad view of what you're working on, something. I wouldn't be the only one who feels this way when I say this....... PLEASE take the servers down for 24...48 or heck...72 hours to replace the hardware, rebuild the servers, do what you need to do to fix this. The servers are in no state to return accurate data. You'd keep your players more interested in this test if we had a solid platform to use. And not to rub salt into the wound....but this whole double skill points........you should have brought the servers down and or rolled back whatever you did, admitted something didn't go as planned and said it's on hold until you fix it. Because as of right now, it's kind of embarrassing for this not to be working. You'd be amazed at how forgiving the people would be if you were just keeping them informed and were honest. Knowing the whole time it's a beta and you're doing something new and there will be trip up's along the way. We understand that, we do. Just saying...so there's my 0.02. Thanks for reading this (I hope). Their updates are listed here for feedback for us: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=381216#post381216
SGT Garrisson On The Brink 60	Posted - 2012.11.01 21:08:00 - [13] - Quote being experiencing this since the 25th of october ive probably finshed 1 single match and that was a tourny match comms works fine have no problem comunicating with corp but the lag has gone beyond stupid over the last week i started out this build with unnoticeable lag in the first week to unplayable lag gone from positive 10-1 KDR to 0-10 KDR rough gussing on my KDR but was nearly always positive i end up dead b4 i see the guy shoot me in the face sometimes currently unistalling and re-downloading to see if this is the issue as ive been told that after some patches theres alot of infor that doesnt need to be in the folder dust b4 deleting 6 GB dust after re-downloading 2.6 GB
Ghost-33 ShootBreakStab 108	Posted - 2012.11.01 21:15:00 - [14] - Quote SGT Garrisson wrote: being experiencing this since the 25th of october ive probably finshed 1 single match and that was a tourny match comms works fine have no problem comunicating with corp but the lag has gone beyond stupid over the last week i started out this build with unnoticeable lag in the first week to unplayable lag gone from positive 10-1 KDR to 0-10 KDR rough gussing on my KDR but was nearly always positive i end up dead b4 i see the guy shoot me in the face sometimes currently unistalling and re-downloading to see if this is the issue as ive been told that after some patches theres alot of infor that doesnt need to be in the folder dust b4 deleting 6 GB dust after re-downloading 2.6 GB Do you have any better performance after doing your complete wipe? I r curiosity...
SGT Garrisson On The Brink 60	Posted - 2012.11.01 21:35:00 - [15] - Quote Ghost-33 wrote: SGT Garrisson wrote: being experiencing this since the 25th of october ive probably finshed 1 single match and that was a tourny match comms works fine have no problem comunicating with corp but the lag has gone beyond stupid over the last week i started out this build with unnoticeable lag in the first week to unplayable lag gone from positive 10-1 KDR to 0-10 KDR rough gussing on my KDR but was nearly always positive i end up dead b4 i see the guy shoot me in the face sometimes currently unistalling and re-downloading to see if this is the issue as ive been told that after some patches theres alot of infor that doesnt need to be in the folder dust b4 deleting 6 GB dust after re-downloading 2.6 GB Do you have any better performance after doing your complete wipe? I r curiosity... ill let u know when im done downloading and can play it will probably be toworrow now when i get to play
HEAT SoulRipper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 45	Posted - 2012.11.02 01:07:00 - [16] - Quote Quote: Their updates are listed here for feedback for us: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=381216#post381216 Thank you for pointing that out. I do search for new posts and never see that updated, that's on me, my mistake. I'll shut up now.
Domingo Cervezas Cult of the Warrior 15	Posted - 2012.11.03 22:30:00 - [17] - Quote Cool it with the drama queen antics. Getting small lag pauses that increase in frequency the longer I play. On the 4th match or so they are very frequent making it difficult to keep playing. Seems to clear up after restarting but it starts again just as quickly. If you play a long session of 2 hours or more the lag becomes unbearable, can barely move. It might happen sooner than 1 hour, I wasn't paying that close attention to how long I had been connected. I have only played twice recently and both days were Saturday Oct 27th and Nov 3rd. USA during the early afternoon, West Coast time. Not using comms but it's on to hear if anyone else is talking. Not grouped in a squad, jumping into matches solo. Using PS3 controller. I have not tried wipe and reinstall, before I go that route, had anyone tried this? The poster above didn't seem to come back and tell us what happened. EDIT: I forwarded the ports months ago, haven't checked to see if any port info has changed. Note that this did nothing for lock up issues from Sept 2012. I didn't think I had network issues to begin with and still believe this is the case.
Darkkis78 0	Posted - 2012.11.03 22:53:00 - [18] - Quote Domingo Cervezas wrote: Cool it with the drama queen antics. Getting small lag pauses that increase in frequency the longer I play. On the 4th match or so they are very frequent making it difficult to keep playing. Seems to clear up after restarting but it starts again just as quickly. If you play a long session of 2 hours or more the lag becomes unbearable, can barely move. It might happen sooner than 1 hour, I wasn't paying that close attention to how long I had been connected. I have only played twice recently and both days were Saturday Oct 27th and Nov 3rd. USA during the early afternoon, West Coast time. Not using comms but it's on to hear if anyone else is talking. Not grouped in a squad, jumping into matches solo. Using PS3 controller. I have not tried wipe and reinstall, before I go that route, had anyone tried this? The poster above didn't seem to come back and tell us what happened. EDIT: I forwarded the ports months ago, haven't checked to see if any port info has changed. Note that this did nothing for lock up issues from Sept 2012. I didn't think I had network issues to begin with and still believe this is the case. Having same problem and its feels its when game loads something from harddrive it freezes up and it gets bad after few hours of playing all game modes and maps
GUILTYBOY RestlessSpirits 1	Posted - 2012.11.04 01:44:00 - [19] - Quote It seems that I have been playing in the beta for the last month and a half or so and the lag is getting worse all the time. Last night I was heading to a control panel to hack it. I would get to the panel and all of a sudden I'm standing a few metres past the terminal. This happened 4 or 5 times before a managed to inch my way close enough to it to hack it. Also I had people blinking in and out while I was trying to shoot them. Pretty much ...... It was impossible to play and I ended up quitting out of the game as it drove me nuts. I'm living in NewZealand.... We have good speed on all our other online games we play. PLEASE tell me this can be sorted at some stage guys. I've brought a couple of mercenary packs to help my character out and I can see the potential in this game. But only if these issues that seem to affect heaps of players world wide can be sorted. Obviously it's not across every one in the game as I was getting nailed easily by other players with a couple of shots. Then in the games I'm not blinking in. I seem to manage a reasonable amount of kills by my skill at the game so far. Developers.... You really need to do your best to try to sort this issue, probably above all these other issues you have as people will leave the game before its really started.
T'Souni Suun-Brakur 0	Posted - 2012.11.04 08:36:00 - [20] - Quote Experiencing this issue also US Pacific coast. Jumping out of battle in the middle of it. Lag and seeing players running in one place. I am losing items because of this. Will it be a couple of years of beta because this can not go live like this. Also get server unavailable outside of maintenance schedule time. Do we need to uninstall and reinstall? What is going on, this game has a lot of potential!!!!

Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.11.05 03:41:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hi, Did you start experiencing this exclusively after the downtime that happened on 31st? Also could you please tell us which game mode were you playing when you first experienced this issue? Thank you. the reason this is asked is because of this, CCP Frame wrote: Today we will bring Sisi down for extended period of time to apply and test two hotfixes [....] the second one will introduce changes to the content streaming for the Ambush mode. found here, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=43317&find=unread and i can say the lag is worse since then but i do not know if that is what caused this. what content is it you're streaming? i've seen some bad texture loading in the game, the ground has little squares all over that load little by little. idk if this is causing the lag. or is the content streaming the way you match users from different countries now? is this what is causing major lag, frame rate stutters and stalls? tbh as others have said i feel its worse since issues last night but i've had these issues, lag, frame rate stutters/stalls for some time now. today i've just gotten very frustrated with it and have been dying a lot more than usual. :)
angelarch Algintal Core Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2012.11.05 09:55:00 - [22] - Quote do micro-freezes count as lag? for the last three days playing around midnight PST on all skirmish maps, i have non-stop micro-freezes. It is bad enough to make me not want to play test anymore-- just so frustrating it is driving me out of my mind. - "turn to shoot a red, microfreeze, unfreeze, now i'm facing a wall or a rock, bang i'm dead." i can't run or drive anywhere without getting spun around at some random moment. a month ago i almost never had this issue, now it's all the time! - is this a network code problem? pls fix!
Blunt Smkr Doomheim 62	Posted - 2012.11.06 00:32:00 - [23] - Quote Lag/frame rate shutters have gotten alot worse since the last hotfix i mean it was always bad but now its like every match. It seems to get worse the longer i play to the point where its unplayable. I eventually just restart the game n it seems somewat run better. I hope its fixd soon cause i seem to die mainly cause of the lag now n its suks losing 50k-100k isk suits over lag/freeze ups
Atticus Wolf ROGUE SPADES 4	Posted - 2012.11.07 05:29:00 - [24] - Quote It is interesting to me watching these forums. I played quite a bit of this beta thinking like most of you that it has enormous potential which I still believe it still does however the games one, huge problem was the instablity of the game causing unplayable lag not seen in any other multiplayer game I have played in many years. I have not been playing the game for some time, instead every once in a while I will come onto these forums hoping to see some posting saying something like "thank you CCP for listening and fixing this god awful lag issue" however what I continue to see is the same lag issues being constantly brought up again and again and again. This tells me a few things about CCP, either this is a very large issue that they have and are working very hard to fix it but is a bugger to fix, or they really are not listening to the countless people who are all saying the same thing....... FIX THE LAG!! I am hoping that it is the first option and that you guys are infact working on this constantly but are just having problems finding a true fix, because I am losing my faith in you guys a little bit a day. I don't mean to be dramatic if that is how I am coming off, I am just becoming disappointed.
Snaps Tremor Doomheim 19	Posted - 2012.11.07 06:32:00 - [25] - Quote LAG = Network latency/jitter, which causes direct hits to miss and makes other players/vehicles teleport around. It should not ever cause anything on your end to freeze (controls, framerate) until the game boots you for being disconnected. MICROFREEZE/STUTTER/WHATEVER YOU CALL IT = The whole game freezes for a second, including your controls, which happens because the PS3 can't keep up with the demand of the engine. Please make sure you know the difference between these two and specify which one you mean, as it'll make it much clearer to the developers whether you are experiencing a server problem or a client problem.
SGT Garrisson On The Brink 60	Posted - 2012.11.07 18:22:00 - [26] - Quote Ghost-33 wrote: SGT Garrisson wrote: being experiencing this since the 25th of october ive probably finshed 1 single match and that was a tourny match comms works fine have no problem comunicating with corp but the lag has gone beyond stupid over the last week i started out this build with unnoticeable lag in the first week to unplayable lag gone from positive 10-1 KDR to 0-10 KDR rough gussing on my KDR but was nearly always positive i end up dead b4 i see the guy shoot me in the face sometimes currently unistalling and re-downloading to see if this is the issue as ive been told that after some patches theres alot of infor that doesnt need to be in the folder dust b4 deleting 6 GB dust after re-downloading 2.6 GB Do you have any better performance after doing your complete wipe? I r curiosity... yea re-downloading fixed the lag issue i was having
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.11.07 21:58:00 - [27] - Quote i too have deleted and reinstalled. bad frame rate drops seem better, lag seems a lil better although there still is some. i'm also noticing others from other countries, some people seem to be lagging badly. also, in regards to the new content streaming feature, i've finally seen it and yes, it causes lag the more things drop. this may be related to how vehicles cause lag as well. imo, sometimes too many things get dropped in one battle and in others nothing is dropped.... can you even those out CCP? thanks
McFurious BetaMax. 67	Posted - 2012.11.08 00:47:00 - [28] - Quote Tried playing today. The microfreezes are much worse now. Every game, every map.
Grims Tooth Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 8	Posted - 2012.11.08 01:34:00 - [29] - Quote I'm noticing the occasional stutter in my gameplay. For me is specifically affects strafing. When the microfreezes start, my character stutters when I try to strafe and can't go anywhere. I can still turn and walk forward and back, but it feels like strafing is either somehow blocked or not registering properly. These microfreezes only last a few seconds though and then the game returns to normal. This all happened to me in North America between 12:00 and 1:00 AM GMT.


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