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Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:26:00 -
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Does the Sidearm Sharpshooter skill affect this? |
Placid Zan
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:28:00 -
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I don't want to say no, but I doubt 40% of their current range is much of a difference. |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
149
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:31:00 -
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hahahaha. if your goal was to entertain then you have achieved it! side arm sharpshooter with nova knives! thats a hoot. maybe you should put on commando pro onlyusemeblade style. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:36:00 -
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Placid Zan wrote:I don't want to say no, but I doubt 40% of their current range is much of a difference. Anything helps. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:40:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Does the Sidearm Sharpshooter skill affect this?
I would run with nova knives if there was a way to skill up the range. |
The Infected One
CrimeWave Syndicate
126
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:42:00 -
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It would be cool, but at the same time I hope it doesn't because that could effectively turn it into a nova sword kinda weapon. I really like the up close and personal feel of knifing someone in the back, it's a much more intimate experience when you have to get up to the person unnoticed in order to cut out his/her unsuspecting liver. Plus it gives one more satisfaction to have to be right ontop of said player to do it. I really don't want to see people getting knifed from 10 feet away. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:43:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Does the Sidearm Sharpshooter skill affect this? I would run with nova knives if there was a way to skill up the range.
I do it now and seem to fare nicely. The Sharpshooter skill would be nice for the range. |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
161
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:48:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:It would be cool, but at the same time I hope it doesn't because that could effectively turn it into a nova sword kinda weapon. I really like the up close and personal feel of knifing someone in the back, it's a much more intimate experience when you have to get up to the person unnoticed in order to cut out his/her unsuspecting liver. Plus it gives one more satisfaction to have to be right ontop of said player to do it. I really don't want to see people getting knifed from 10 feet away.
Yes I have to agree no commando style knifing but, I would like to be able to sprint and charge given that an assault can backup just about as fast as a scout can rush him with a charged knife.
This has become my only problem with the knives. Because even getting shot to death when you tried so hard to sneak up on someone, is still great just to watch them go OMG its nova knifes that is gonna hurt please don't hit please don't him me. Makes it worth while. |
Yuni Obey
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.10.29 23:19:00 -
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Just purchased my Nova knife yesterday. Haven't killed anyone with one yet. Is there a cool animation for kill with it? Or is it like a melee? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.10.29 23:29:00 -
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don't even bother using them- breach scrambler pistols work better in every situation. |
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Novas Prime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.10.29 23:32:00 -
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A good evolution of the nova knife skill set would be the ability to use it as a throwing knife
FACT |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2012.10.30 00:26:00 -
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of corse it works. now, whats 140% times zero? |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.30 00:42:00 -
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i have never been killed by nova knifes. i have only been killed by the laser rifle a total of 10 times give or take 2. i hear the knife when an ally stabbed some shmuck.
not sure if people skilled into it and hated it because ARs seem to dominate every field in infantry killing |
Yuni Obey
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:22:00 -
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Novas Prime wrote:A good evolution of the nova knife skill set would be the ability to use it as a throwing knife
FACT That would be awesome! |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:53:00 -
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I don't want increased range of the knife unless you are talking about throwing it and then losing a knife if you don't recover it. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:56:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:i have never been killed by nova knifes. i have only been killed by the laser rifle a total of 10 times give or take 2. i hear the knife when an ally stabbed some shmuck.
not sure if people skilled into it and hated it because ARs seem to dominate every field in infantry killing
<-- Adds necrodermis to the hit list. Pray I don't run into you from behind. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.30 19:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote: <-- Adds necrodermis to the hit list. Pray I don't run into you from behind.
good, i'm the jerk that stands on top of buildings blowing up vehicles as people spawn them. |
Bosse Grahn
90
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Posted - 2012.10.30 19:14:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:It would be cool, but at the same time I hope it doesn't because that could effectively turn it into a nova sword kinda weapon. I really like the up close and personal feel of knifing someone in the back, it's a much more intimate experience when you have to get up to the person unnoticed in order to cut out his/her unsuspecting liver. Plus it gives one more satisfaction to have to be right ontop of said player to do it. I really don't want to see people getting knifed from 10 feet away. You'd need Sephiroths sword to pull that off bro. Even if you increased the range 40%, it would only give you maybe another half a meter at best
Edit: I would like to see some running attacks though. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.30 19:21:00 -
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Bosse Grahn wrote: You'd need Sephiroths sword to pull that off bro. Even if you increased the range 40%, it would only give you maybe another half a meter at best
Edit: I would like to see some running attacks though.
the halo sword lunge comes to my mind when you say that. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.10.30 19:25:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:I really like the up close and personal feel of knifing someone in the back, it's a much more intimate experience when you have to get up to the person unnoticed in order to cut out his/her unsuspecting liver. Plus it gives one more satisfaction to have to be right on top of said player to do it. whoa dude... its just a game. do you have a psychiatrist? i feel you may need help. |
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.30 20:39:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:The Infected One wrote:I really like the up close and personal feel of knifing someone in the back, it's a much more intimate experience when you have to get up to the person unnoticed in order to cut out his/her unsuspecting liver. Plus it gives one more satisfaction to have to be right on top of said player to do it. whoa dude... its just a game. do you have a psychiatrist? i feel you may need help.
Knifing someone in the back is always an intimate experience. Depending on who attacks you from behind, you may not receive a courtesy reach around. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.30 20:41:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: <-- Adds necrodermis to the hit list. Pray I don't run into you from behind.
good, i'm the jerk that stands on top of buildings blowing up vehicles as people spawn them.
Thank goonness for ladders. |
The Infected One
CrimeWave Syndicate
126
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Posted - 2012.10.30 22:04:00 -
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Bosse Grahn wrote:The Infected One wrote:It would be cool, but at the same time I hope it doesn't because that could effectively turn it into a nova sword kinda weapon. I really like the up close and personal feel of knifing someone in the back, it's a much more intimate experience when you have to get up to the person unnoticed in order to cut out his/her unsuspecting liver. Plus it gives one more satisfaction to have to be right ontop of said player to do it. I really don't want to see people getting knifed from 10 feet away. You'd need Sephiroths sword to pull that off bro. Even if you increased the range 40%, it would only give you maybe another half a meter at best Edit: I would like to see some running attacks though. The 10' was an exaggeration but you get my point, even a half meter is a little far to be reaching for a knife kill (extra 1.6 feet). Running attacks would be great though, or give the ability to throw it and retrieve the knife for a slightly ranged attack. +1 for you. |
Chankk Saotome
CrimeWave Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2012.10.30 22:19:00 -
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With the charge time on them they're worthless as it stands. While silent, it doesn't matter as the animation is so long that if you don't 1-hit kill someone they'll start running away before you can fire off a melee animation to finish the job and then just whip around and shoot you in the face (assuming they have half a mind to move when hit by anything).
If there's going to be a charge there should be an added 1m lunge or something. Otherwise it should go to an instant attack but add a cooldown that can be scaled down by skills like what they did in MAG. I hate to reference it but they got knives right in that game. It wasn't necessarily a 1-hit kill till you leveled it up and if you didn't lower it's cooldown you couldn't swing it again before the enemy had turned and was shooting on you. |
Bzeer Ra
Jedi Knights.
2
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Posted - 2012.10.31 02:25:00 -
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I've only achieved 3 kills with the knives all by surprise. What's truly disappointing is just how close I've come to killing several more. It would be nice if after I've closed a gap down to a meter or so and charged up the knife attack it would trigger a small charge forward at sprint speed to complete the attack. As they are now, I don't think they are combat effective, as I end up dying more often than getting a kill while using them, and that's with a fast stealthy fit. I would love to love the knives, as I think being a ninja is the cqc fantasy of the scout suit. As it is now, I think when we launch the game my future skill points will be better used on shotguns, and sub machine guns. Something just doesn't seem right about me getting more melee kills than knife kills, but oh well. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.31 03:44:00 -
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Bzeer Ra wrote:I've only achieved 3 kills with the knives all by surprise. What's truly disappointing is just how close I've come to killing several more. It would be nice if after I've closed a gap down to a meter or so and charged up the knife attack it would trigger a small charge forward at sprint speed to complete the attack. As they are now, I don't think they are combat effective, as I end up dying more often than getting a kill while using them, and that's with a fast stealthy fit. I would love to love the knives, as I think being a ninja is the cqc fantasy of the scout suit. As it is now, I think when we launch the game my future skill points will be better used on shotguns, and sub machine guns. Something just doesn't seem right about me getting more melee kills than knife kills, but oh well.
Well, I guess the profession just isn't for you. You have to remember that this is a 'niche' profession for those who are truly dedicated to it. Therefore, it is not for everyone. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.31 03:47:00 -
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Bzeer Ra wrote:I've only achieved 3 kills with the knives all by surprise. What's truly disappointing is just how close I've come to killing several more. It would be nice if after I've closed a gap down to a meter or so and charged up the knife attack it would trigger a small charge forward at sprint speed to complete the attack. As they are now, I don't think they are combat effective, as I end up dying more often than getting a kill while using them, and that's with a fast stealthy fit. I would love to love the knives, as I think being a ninja is the cqc fantasy of the scout suit. As it is now, I think when we launch the game my future skill points will be better used on shotguns, and sub machine guns. Something just doesn't seem right about me getting more melee kills than knife kills, but oh well. 12/3 with a basic Nova Knife and Dragonfly suit. But I do agree that it needs a slight change to them. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.31 03:57:00 -
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If it is any comfort, CCP Cmdr Wang mentioned that the nova knife is expected to undergo some changes. See below.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=371313#post371313 |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
149
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:13:00 -
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Goat of Dover wrote:The Infected One wrote:It would be cool, but at the same time I hope it doesn't because that could effectively turn it into a nova sword kinda weapon. I really like the up close and personal feel of knifing someone in the back, it's a much more intimate experience when you have to get up to the person unnoticed in order to cut out his/her unsuspecting liver. Plus it gives one more satisfaction to have to be right ontop of said player to do it. I really don't want to see people getting knifed from 10 feet away. Yes I have to agree no commando style knifing but, I would like to be able to sprint and charge given that an assault can backup just about as fast as a scout can rush him with a charged knife. This has become my only problem with the knives. Because even getting shot to death when you tried so hard to sneak up on someone, is still great just to watch them go OMG its nova knifes that is gonna hurt please don't hit please don't him me. Makes it worth while.
alls i can say is OLE |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.31 10:54:00 -
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Yes. And they are fixing ARs :) |
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