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Leither Yiltron wrote:

Placid Zan wrote:

Orin the Freak wrote:

Quite honestly, I hope they just keep it the way it is. They've backpedaled and changed enough times this tourney. I'm fine with the brackets the way they are. CCP needs to stick to their guns on this one I think. Certainly it's not like other tournaments, but it's a beta tournament anyway, and for no real-world prizes. so let them run it the way they see fit.

I'm tired of them changing stuff up mid-tourney. I mean, we are asking for a change to the brackets NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAY after they changed them already. I'm fine with the changes they've made so far, but to keep making us second guess and get our hopes/nerves up only to pull the chair out from under us is... well, it's inconsistent and frankly makes the whole thing feel rather disorganized and ... *sigh*

Just leave the damn bracket the way is, play the tourney, win/lose/whatever and may the next tourney be better for it.

Changing the brackets is not that big of a deal, chill.

You're not playing in the tournament (granted this isn't someone's alt), so your view might be a little bit out of touch with the reality.

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Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:07:00 - [1] - Quote I just noticed the Brakets for the Quarter Finals. The Error in the Brakets you posted is that for the EU & US you have the number 1 seed facing each other. SI (3-0) vs Zion TCD (3-0) & ROFL House (3-0) vs Imperfects (3-0). While the the second place finishers from each group face each other. I do agree that the two team who advanced from each group shoudn't face each other for Quarters. In every tourney, you have the first seed in each group face a lower seed in the Quarters because the number 1 seed earn their spot with-in group play. The Brakets should look like this: SI (3-0) vs The Southern Legion (2-1) Zion TCD (3-0) vs What The French (2-1) Imperfects (3-0) vs KEQ (2-1) ROFL House (3-0) vs SyNergy Gaming (2-1)
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 320	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:17:00 - [2] - Quote they should just make the quarters another round robin imo.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:25:00 - [3] - Quote Two very important things mentioned by CCP;- CCP reserves final judgment in all cases regarding the rules. All decisions made by CCP in connection with the competition shall be final.
Jariel Manton SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 210	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:27:00 - [4] - Quote da fuq? By doing this it puts atleast 1 corporation with a seed of 5 or lower to take 3rd place getting a share of the prizes. While yes i understand CCP can do whatever the kitten the want this does kind of make me scratch my head as to why they would do it this way.
Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:28:00 - [5] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Two very important things mentioned by CCP;- CCP reserves final judgment in all cases regarding the rules. All decisions made by CCP in connection with the competition shall be final. I will post this when they switch Brakets because of there error. :D
Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:32:00 - [6] - Quote Jariel Manton wrote: da fuq? By doing this it puts atleast 1 corporation with a seed of 5 or lower to take 3rd place getting a share of the prizes. While yes i understand CCP can do whatever the kitten the want this does kind of make me scratch my head as to why they would do it this way. I believe they just made a simple mistake. Nobody is perfect in this world. They will just simply change it as CCP has the authority to do so.
Jariel Manton SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 210	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:36:00 - [7] - Quote Omnipotens Zitro wrote: Jariel Manton wrote: da fuq? By doing this it puts atleast 1 corporation with a seed of 5 or lower to take 3rd place getting a share of the prizes. While yes i understand CCP can do whatever the kitten the want this does kind of make me scratch my head as to why they would do it this way. I believe they just made a simple mistake. Nobody is perfect in this world. They will just simply change it as CCP has the authority to do so. Perhaps, but i fear things are "working as intended." Time will tell.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:39:00 - [8] - Quote Tbh this is prob just a ccp mistake im sure they will man up and fix it. Meh either way not that fussed its a little beta tourny after all.
mikegunnz Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:44:00 - [9] - Quote Omnipotens Zitro wrote: I just noticed the Brakets for the Quarter Finals. The Error in the Brakets you posted is that for the EU & US you have the number 1 seed facing each other. SI (3-0) vs Zion TCD (3-0) & ROFL House (3-0) vs Imperfects (3-0). While the the second place finishers from each group face each other. I do agree that the two team who advanced from each group shoudn't face each other for Quarters. In every tourney, you have the first seed in each group face a lower seed in the Quarters because the number 1 seed earn their spot with-in group play. The Brakets should look like this: SI (3-0) vs The Southern Legion (2-1) Zion TCD (3-0) vs What The French (2-1) Imperfects (3-0) vs KEQ (2-1) ROFL House (3-0) vs SyNergy Gaming (2-1) I understand they probably changed the brackets to get teams from other groups playing eachother, but this ^^^ makes more sense. Seems like they just rushed to change the brackets without really thinking it through.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:49:00 - [10] - Quote Omnipotens Zitro wrote: I will post this when they switch Brakets because of there error. :D I hope no one is mistaken that The Imperfects is the team to beat! Any corp that thinks less is foolish! I know I want the first place! Anything else is meaningless! I couldnt care less about second or third place! And getting first place means beating The Imperfects! This is what my mindset is !

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.10.29 15:57:00 - [11] - Quote I think it is really unfair to knock out two of the top seeded teams from competition for third place. I know the prize isn't stellar, but it certainly isn't right to penalize coming out of the first round on top.
Berserker007 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 206	Posted - 2012.10.29 16:26:00 - [12] - Quote yeah, i would have to agree this might be a CCP error in setting up the brackets. If you look at it as you would an NCAA bracket, you dont face other divisions till the semi finals (ie: Final 4). So yeah, it should still be in group brackets. So, it should be: SI vs WTF Zion vs TSL Imperfects vs SyN ROFL vs KEQ
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming 334	Posted - 2012.10.29 16:30:00 - [13] - Quote Berserker007 wrote: yeah, i would have to agree this might be a CCP error in setting up the brackets. If you look at it as you would an NCAA bracket, you dont face other divisions till the semi finals (ie: Final 4). So yeah, it should still be in group brackets. So, it should be: SI vs WTF Zion vs TSL Imperfects vs SyN ROFL vs KEQ Makes no sense for teams in the same group to play again in Quarter Finals to be honest. The OP is right, should be Imperfects vs KEQ and SyN vs ROFL.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.10.29 16:37:00 - [14] - Quote Omnipotens Zitro wrote: I just noticed the Brakets for the Quarter Finals. The Error in the Brakets you posted is that for the EU & US you have the number 1 seed facing each other. SI (3-0) vs Zion TCD (3-0) & ROFL House (3-0) vs Imperfects (3-0). While the the second place finishers from each group face each other. I do agree that the two team who advanced from each group shoudn't face each other for Quarters. In every tourney, you have the first seed in each group face a lower seed in the Quarters because the number 1 seed earn their spot with-in group play. The Brakets should look like this: SI (3-0) vs The Southern Legion (2-1) Zion TCD (3-0) vs What The French (2-1) Imperfects (3-0) vs KEQ (2-1) ROFL House (3-0) vs SyNergy Gaming (2-1) Agreed wholeheartedly.
Berserker007 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 206	Posted - 2012.10.29 16:40:00 - [15] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Berserker007 wrote: yeah, i would have to agree this might be a CCP error in setting up the brackets. If you look at it as you would an NCAA bracket, you dont face other divisions till the semi finals (ie: Final 4). So yeah, it should still be in group brackets. So, it should be: SI vs WTF Zion vs TSL Imperfects vs SyN ROFL vs KEQ Makes no sense for teams in the same group to play again in Quarter Finals to be honest. The OP is right, should be Imperfects vs KEQ and SyN vs ROFL. yes, that works too. Simply meant it shouldnt really be #1's in the four groups playing each other in the Q-finals; as it is essentially a penalization for doing good; that 2 of the top 4 teams would get eliminated
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming 334	Posted - 2012.10.29 16:43:00 - [16] - Quote Berserker007 wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Berserker007 wrote: yeah, i would have to agree this might be a CCP error in setting up the brackets. If you look at it as you would an NCAA bracket, you dont face other divisions till the semi finals (ie: Final 4). So yeah, it should still be in group brackets. So, it should be: SI vs WTF Zion vs TSL Imperfects vs SyN ROFL vs KEQ Makes no sense for teams in the same group to play again in Quarter Finals to be honest. The OP is right, should be Imperfects vs KEQ and SyN vs ROFL. yes, that works too. Simply meant it shouldnt really be #1's in the four groups playing each other in the Q-finals; as it is essentially a penalization for doing good; that 2 of the top 4 teams would get eliminated Ya i agree here. Either way an extra week to prep for Imperfects(im happy.. lol)
Maximus Creed ZionTCD Legacy Rising 68	Posted - 2012.10.29 17:27:00 - [17] - Quote I noticed this as well. As it stands, he who came 2nd in the group will have an EASIER time getting to the semis than he who came 1st. CCP, please set quarter final brackets as per OP.
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.10.29 18:03:00 - [18] - Quote KryptixX wrote: they should just make the quarters another round robin imo. I agree. The round robins were fun because they let you play everyone.
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.10.29 18:06:00 - [19] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: I think it is really unfair to knock out two of the top seeded teams from competition for third place. I know the prize isn't stellar, but it certainly isn't right to penalize coming out of the first round on top. It does seem strange that they changed it like this. Doesn't seem like regular tournaments.
Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.10.29 18:09:00 - [20] - Quote Should be done FIFA style, imo. 3 points for win, 2 points for clone depletion, 1 point for loss

Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.10.29 20:54:00 - [21] - Quote Grezkev wrote: Should be done FIFA style, imo. 3 points for win, 2 points for clone depletion, 1 point for loss lolwut? u dont get a pt for a loss in football
Orin the Freak Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 334	Posted - 2012.10.29 21:49:00 - [22] - Quote Quite honestly, I hope they just keep it the way it is. They've backpedaled and changed enough times this tourney. I'm fine with the brackets the way they are. CCP needs to stick to their guns on this one I think. Certainly it's not like other tournaments, but it's a beta tournament anyway, and for no real-world prizes. so let them run it the way they see fit. I'm tired of them changing stuff up mid-tourney. I mean, we are asking for a change to the brackets NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAY after they changed them already. I'm fine with the changes they've made so far, but to keep making us second guess and get our hopes/nerves up only to pull the chair out from under us is... well, it's inconsistent and frankly makes the whole thing feel rather disorganized and ... sigh Just leave the damn bracket the way is, play the tourney, win/lose/whatever and may the next tourney be better for it.
Placid Zan 18	Posted - 2012.10.29 22:06:00 - [23] - Quote Orin the Freak wrote: Quite honestly, I hope they just keep it the way it is. They've backpedaled and changed enough times this tourney. I'm fine with the brackets the way they are. CCP needs to stick to their guns on this one I think. Certainly it's not like other tournaments, but it's a beta tournament anyway, and for no real-world prizes. so let them run it the way they see fit. I'm tired of them changing stuff up mid-tourney. I mean, we are asking for a change to the brackets NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAY after they changed them already. I'm fine with the changes they've made so far, but to keep making us second guess and get our hopes/nerves up only to pull the chair out from under us is... well, it's inconsistent and frankly makes the whole thing feel rather disorganized and ... sigh Just leave the damn bracket the way is, play the tourney, win/lose/whatever and may the next tourney be better for it. Changing the brackets is not that big of a deal, chill.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2012.10.29 23:22:00 - [24] - Quote Placid Zan wrote: Orin the Freak wrote: Quite honestly, I hope they just keep it the way it is. They've backpedaled and changed enough times this tourney. I'm fine with the brackets the way they are. CCP needs to stick to their guns on this one I think. Certainly it's not like other tournaments, but it's a beta tournament anyway, and for no real-world prizes. so let them run it the way they see fit. I'm tired of them changing stuff up mid-tourney. I mean, we are asking for a change to the brackets NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAY after they changed them already. I'm fine with the changes they've made so far, but to keep making us second guess and get our hopes/nerves up only to pull the chair out from under us is... well, it's inconsistent and frankly makes the whole thing feel rather disorganized and ... sigh Just leave the damn bracket the way is, play the tourney, win/lose/whatever and may the next tourney be better for it. Changing the brackets is not that big of a deal, chill. You're not playing in the tournament (granted this isn't someone's alt), so your view might be a little bit out of touch with the reality.
Henri Thoreau Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2012.10.29 23:59:00 - [25] - Quote Grezkev wrote: Should be done FIFA style, imo. 3 points for win, 2 points for clone depletion, 1 point for loss I don't think FIFA uses the clone depletion rule anymore. That was scrapped after, The Incident, at the '78 Battle of Lyon Championships.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2012.10.30 00:05:00 - [26] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Placid Zan wrote: Orin the Freak wrote: Quite honestly, I hope they just keep it the way it is. They've backpedaled and changed enough times this tourney. I'm fine with the brackets the way they are. CCP needs to stick to their guns on this one I think. Certainly it's not like other tournaments, but it's a beta tournament anyway, and for no real-world prizes. so let them run it the way they see fit. I'm tired of them changing stuff up mid-tourney. I mean, we are asking for a change to the brackets NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAY after they changed them already. I'm fine with the changes they've made so far, but to keep making us second guess and get our hopes/nerves up only to pull the chair out from under us is... well, it's inconsistent and frankly makes the whole thing feel rather disorganized and ... sigh Just leave the damn bracket the way is, play the tourney, win/lose/whatever and may the next tourney be better for it. Changing the brackets is not that big of a deal, chill. You're not playing in the tournament (granted this isn't someone's alt), so your view might be a little bit out of touch with the reality. lol Even if I wasn't in the tournament that doesn't make my post any less valid. It is still the beginning of the week so I see no problem with a change in the bracket, however if they wait until the last minute and change it that's where I see complaints over the change being understandable. Besides its just a Beta Tourny
Aidan Torrall Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2012.10.30 00:32:00 - [27] - Quote Agree with OP. Never seen bracket like this one.
Vincam Velmoriar Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2012.10.30 00:33:00 - [28] - Quote Not in the tournament, but yeah, the way the quarters are set up makes zero sense.
Pranekt Tyrvoth Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 177	Posted - 2012.10.30 00:50:00 - [29] - Quote It does seem awkward to have these unexpected changes come up considering its basically going to prevent one good team from going forward properly no matter what the result is. Regardless, I look forward to the matches. GL to the Imperfects -- if we win I want a ride in the golden LAV, and if you guys win I want a consolation beer, lol.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2012.10.30 00:56:00 - [30] - Quote Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote: It does seem awkward to have these unexpected changes come up considering its basically going to prevent one good team from going forward properly no matter what the result is. Regardless, I look forward to the matches. GL to the Imperfects -- if we win I want a ride in the golden LAV, and if you guys win I want a consolation beer, lol. Back at ya, I'll always accept a ride in a BO LAV, and if we end up owing you a beer then Free Beers will hook you up

Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.10.30 02:08:00 - [31] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote: It does seem awkward to have these unexpected changes come up considering its basically going to prevent one good team from going forward properly no matter what the result is. Regardless, I look forward to the matches. GL to the Imperfects -- if we win I want a ride in the golden LAV, and if you guys win I want a consolation beer, lol. Back at ya, I'll always accept a ride in a BO LAV, and if we end up owing you a beer then Free Beers will hook you up I am consolation prize. Free Beers makes everyone day a better one, except blue berries when TK comes about. then you are all dead
Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 202	Posted - 2012.10.30 04:16:00 - [32] - Quote Agreed. The brackets make no sense, but I fear they are EXACTLY how CCP want them to be, meaning I believe CCP wants the 3-0 corps to knock each other out this upcoming round. Edit: And I am proven wrong. Which NEVER happens. As soon as I start to doubt CCP they prove me wrong. So why do I doubt? I blame big, evil gaming corps like EA.
slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 462	Posted - 2012.10.30 06:23:00 - [33] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote: It does seem awkward to have these unexpected changes come up considering its basically going to prevent one good team from going forward properly no matter what the result is. Regardless, I look forward to the matches. GL to the Imperfects -- if we win I want a ride in the golden LAV, and if you guys win I want a consolation beer, lol. Back at ya, I'll always accept a ride in a BO LAV, and if we end up owing you a beer then Free Beers will hook you up I am consolation prize. Free Beers makes everyone day a better one, except blue berries when TK comes about. then you are all dead Every time I see beers in match I get alittle thirsty
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.10.30 09:30:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Frame says it was a mistake and has been corrected.


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