DUST Search - Mechs/jetpacks at release

Ieukoplast wrote:

Tectonious Falcon wrote:

Ieukoplast wrote:

Mechs = Dust death.

CCP seems to be taking after Starhawk, which failed miserably. It's bad enough with heavies right now, let alone dealing with f**ing mechs.

Unless the assault (and every other) class gets an additional slot that has some kind of heat-seeking nuclear missile system, mechs will dominate big-time. Heck, we need that right now with heavies, which are severely OP. I can't even imagine them adding mechs into the mix as well.

As for jetpacks, haven't heard that one yet, but with the crappy aiming mechanics of this game, it will also be a game-killer. CCP needs to focus on the core gameplay like aiming and balance before adding these ridiculous items. Otherwise Dust will have the same fate as Starhawk, 170k sales after 6-7 months.

Heavies..... OP....... Are you kidding me? Those words don't belong in the same sentence unless its "heavies are not OP."

We move slow as hell, we can't even jump over railings, most heavies depend on armour which means armour plates and no armour repairer therefore you get us to armour and we're weakened. Maybe you should stop charging head on at a HMG wielding tank on legs and circle around behind it. Heavies are pretty good as is, although they're nowhere near as powerful as they used to be.

Also people shooting from he tacks will have as much trouble hitting things as people shooting at them. I see no problem here.

Maybe if you stop playing as a heavy and actually tried going against them as an assault player you would understand. Even with a decent AR and suit, it takes several clips of constant fire to take down even the most basic heavy, let alone they have nearly the exact same range as an AR player.

Heavies are severely OP and need a massive nerf. I think I actually have a better chance going up against a tank as an AR player than I do a heavy.

Heavies needs to be vulnerable to swarm lock-ons, as a start. They also need a massive nerf in their range capability in terms of the machine guns they wield. Should be 50-70% of what they have now. Heavies should only be effective at extremely close range when using the HMG.

Heavies only duty in this game should be AV, other than that they need to be effective only at extremely close range.


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Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 164	Posted - 2012.10.25 10:45:00 - [1] - Quote DON RODIE II wrote: Ten-Sidhe wrote: I had heard mtac and vtol fighter were planed at release, then moved to be in expansion because of work core mechanics needed. It would be great at release, but I'll happily wait if it means rest of game is better. What is mtac and vtol? MTAC - Mechanized Torso-Actuated Chassis VTOL - Vertical take-off and landing So much fun in such few letters
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 164	Posted - 2012.10.25 11:04:00 - [2] - Quote From EVElopedia: MTACs (Mechanized Torso-Actuated Chassis) are metal exoskeletons used for heavy duty mining work. They are armed with mining lasers and can be remote controlled or worn by miners. MTACs make for effective emergency weapons in combat, as they are heavy, virtually immune to anti-personnel laser weapons, and have large, dangerous claws. Some have surface cling abilities that allow them to maneuver in zero gravity.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 164	Posted - 2012.10.25 11:57:00 - [3] - Quote Ieukoplast wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: Ieukoplast wrote: Mechs = Dust death. CCP seems to be taking after Starhawk, which failed miserably. It's bad enough with heavies right now, let alone dealing with f**ing mechs. Unless the assault (and every other) class gets an additional slot that has some kind of heat-seeking nuclear missile system, mechs will dominate big-time. Heck, we need that right now with heavies, which are severely OP. I can't even imagine them adding mechs into the mix as well. As for jetpacks, haven't heard that one yet, but with the crappy aiming mechanics of this game, it will also be a game-killer. CCP needs to focus on the core gameplay like aiming and balance before adding these ridiculous items. Otherwise Dust will have the same fate as Starhawk, 170k sales after 6-7 months. Heavies..... OP....... Are you kidding me? Those words don't belong in the same sentence unless its "heavies are not OP." We move slow as hell, we can't even jump over railings, most heavies depend on armour which means armour plates and no armour repairer therefore you get us to armour and we're weakened. Maybe you should stop charging head on at a HMG wielding tank on legs and circle around behind it. Heavies are pretty good as is, although they're nowhere near as powerful as they used to be. Also people shooting from he tacks will have as much trouble hitting things as people shooting at them. I see no problem here. Maybe if you stop playing as a heavy and actually tried going against them as an assault player you would understand. Even with a decent AR and suit, it takes several clips of constant fire to take down even the most basic heavy, let alone they have nearly the exact same range as an AR player. Heavies are severely OP and need a massive nerf. I think I actually have a better chance going up against a tank as an AR player than I do a heavy. Heavies needs to be vulnerable to swarm lock-ons, as a start. They also need a massive nerf in their range capability in terms of the machine guns they wield. Should be 50-70% of what they have now. Heavies should only be effective at extremely close range when using the HMG. Heavies only duty in this game should be AV, other than that they need to be effective only at extremely close range. Basic heavies do not take a massive amount of fire from the basic militia assault rifle. They can not move fast, turn fast, jump, etc. They are a tank on two legs that if you flank them you can take them out with less than 1 1/2 mags from the militia AR. If they are armed with the HMG then you either want to get mostly head shots while ducking in and out of cover, or have a team mate working with you, as when that gun starts ripping with you in front of it, well, you'll be planning your next spawn fast. Like all the suits, they have weak and strong points for us to learn. Definitely no nerf needed.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 164	Posted - 2012.10.25 12:00:00 - [4] - Quote dent 308 wrote: Heavies are not OP, they were close to extinct prior to this build. MTACs and stuff would be fun, but will come later. Core functionality is what they need to work on now, and I am pretty sure that is their plan. +1