but eventually large sums of permanent ISK will hit Dust. Deal wiz it. Better yet, grab a forge gun and join the party.


Yes this is true, its a part of the merging between Dust and EVE this was also stated on fanfest, but in the right time. We have the same in EVE, some use a lot of isk on Titans and Motherships, but they still loose them. If this would not be possible the whole gameplay would be lost. Dust514+EVE merging =true if not, this is not the game we have been promissed.

I dont see the problem, I still like my millitia equipment.

Also, this really shows the issue of having vehicles that require no skill training to use. LAVs are fine, but being able to drive a tank with no skill invested is starting to look pretty dumb, isn't it? In EVE, if I had 1 billion ISK given to me when I first started, I would have felt rich as hell, but had nothing to spend it on but Frigates. This game has most abilities and assets tied to skills, so having a lot of ISK honestly wouldn't give you any advantage at all if it weren't for the ability to use vehicles with no training.

love how you guys jump the gun. SiSi for eve has infinite funds. it's a fricken test server. They do this to test different scenarios and in this case it's the link between eve and dust, eve has a stronger economy than dust and thus they need to look at how to make a balance between a stronger and weaker economy.

If I think back to E3 when all militia vehicles were FREE, it was more of a field day with av grenades and swarm launchers vs. the militia fits. Until people started improving them with modules, and skilling up to better them.

A militia tank with no support SP behind it is still going to be very squishy and not a problem for the starter anti-armor fitting. Especially now that they aren't stuck on a heavy suit and you can sort of move around with the swarm launcher...

If you aren't interested in joining a corporation that has ties to Eve and the income that it generates, the fix is to stay with the PvE content Dust is supposed to have. The whole game isn't going to be changed because a few "normal" people choose to disengage from the whole point of why the game was created and developed.

This particular burst of ISK was a fluke and I'm sure it will get worked out after AV guys have a little time going apesh** on all the vehicle spawn, but eventually large sums of permanent ISK will hit Dust. Deal wiz it. Better yet, grab a forge gun and join the party.

oh didn't know about the PVE thing, it's a good news for me!

Well i take my patience and boost my swarm to kill those tanks

If you aren't interested in joining a corporation that has ties to Eve and the income that it generates, the fix is to stay with the PvE content Dust is supposed to have. The whole game isn't going to be changed because a few "normal" people choose to disengage from the whole point of why the game was created and developed.

This particular burst of ISK was a fluke and I'm sure it will get worked out after AV guys have a little time going apesh** on all the vehicle spawn, but eventually large sums of permanent ISK will hit Dust. Deal wiz it. Better yet, grab a forge gun and join the party.

isk transfer debate is only a big thing in the beta.. as at the moment, those isk are only virtual and can be wasted without being a big deal. later, when game id final and isk persistent for good, no matter how deep your pockets are, no corp will wzste more isk on a battle than what it can get back out of it.

using 11 hav. ds and plenty of proto stuff on a high sec contract that will earn 1m ? no. on a battle for owning a planet that can earn millions per day through production ? yes. even more , it must happend to fuel the economics.

also it will help in having different "levels" in corp battle.

isk transfer debate is only a big thing in the beta.. as at the moment, those isk are only virtual and can be wasted without being a big deal. later, when game id final and isk persistent for good, no matter how deep your pockets are, no corp will wzste more isk on a battle than what it can get back out of it.

rule 2 of New Eden, Adapt or Die.

whats stopping you from making friends in eve to give you money. Your gear is cheap and there will most likley be a limit on how much money you can send a week or so.

awesome. So if my Eve guy grinding anomalies makes 50-60m isk in an hour, that basically pays for me to welp expensive stuff all day?

Oh ****, since the transfert isk from eve player work, i can see a lot more dropship and tanks making the rules on the map. It's almost like they are infinit isk to pay there stuff with these transfert. So they don't care if they lose them becuz they know it easy to get a another one.


I really start to think that the connection between this two game is not good for normal people who don't really care about alliance.

There should be a way to fix this, limit tank & dropship spawn by game?

Even 1M ISK isn't gonna last long on Dust, especially if you're using HAVs or prototype suits. It's still too early to really judge though.

dust isn't a faucet of isk at all, it's actually a sponge and if they don't make planetary management any better dust will die because eve players will not put in the isk to take planets because the reward will not be worth it.

I'm pretty sure that their intention is to have the Dust planetary facilities be different to the EVE ones in some way. That is, make it actually worth controlling them and fighting for them. And the Dust players will do this on their own because *they* can control it without any need for EVE players.

The beta does not represent anywhere near the full economy power of the final game. The question is just how soon it will take for that to be implemented.

My inactive eve account has 16bill sat on it my corp is e-rich from w/hole and incursion whoring. Also the average cost of a t2 fit frigate (which is completly throw Way) could pay for a whole dust battle at the moment, never mind an ordinary every day Bs which are welped in their hundreds every day in eve pvp, the average dust non-eve player has no idea how much isk eve players who have played a while have at their disposal

lol mlita tanks = free kills

Besides, it's not that hard to get money in this game. I've earned around 4-5mill in 2 days play. Just manage your finances and don't worry about your epeen so much or having the best gear so you feel all leet.

This is the point. Manage your finances. EVE players won't have to manage their finances.

And now isn't the time to get used to it, now is the time to contemplate solutions so that when Dust goes live it isn't just a handful of EVE players screwing around with proto fits constantly. They average gamer won't give a damn about "adapt or die" platitudes. They'll just go play something else, something where they aren't constantly at a major disadvantage every single game, and Dust will never take off.

^This. I drive a Soma almost constantly now, and I usually lose one or two per match.