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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2012.10.20 14:21:00 -
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It has way more shield,but has f**kall for armor,and I've found that I'm actually taking less shots to get killed on with it.So what's the point of actually having it? does anyone see any benefits from using it? |
Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2012.10.20 14:50:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Shield repairs faster, and doesn't require you to spend a module slot.
If CCP ever release a Type-II BPO pack like the Type-I weekend offer I'd buy it immediately. It all depends on your playstyle, and when you're avoiding direct frontal confrontations the shield tank is preferable.
Still seems that higher tier weapons just rip though that shield in no time,and without any armor,you don't really have any survivability at that point. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:04:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:against most weapons, it's just plain better. sure you lose armor, but you gain MORE shields than you lost in armor, for a net gain in total health.
not to mention shields recharge without needing a module.
it also has a small CPU/PG advantage over the type-I
it also moves slightly faster.
so unless everybody on the other team is using laser rifles and scrambler pistols, the type-II is better than the type-I (laser weapons are supposed to deal more damage to shields than other types, but we have no idea by how much. so the type-II might be better even THEN.)
if you're really dieing faster then the only thing i can think of is: do you have mechanics at like 5 but shield management at like 0? seeing as these are % based EHP buffs, the type-I stands to gain more from mechanics as it has higher base armor. that being said i'm not sure, off the top of my head, that the difference is large enough even comparing 5 to 0 for the type-I to ever actually have more total hitpoints.
Mechanics level is at 5,and my shield management is at level 3.
IDK,I'm just not seeing the benefits right now,and I have an enhanced shield regulator and a militia shield extender. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:41:00 -
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Ok,I just played a match,and literally took only two shots before I died with the type II suit.Same match with the type I,and was able to take a few more shots.
I'll never use the type II again.The survivability just isn't there for me.I know that he number support that the type II is better,but on the battlefield,it just isn't,and that's the only numbers that really count for me.As they say,the game isn't played on paper. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:42:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Type-II has more overall durability, more CPU/PG, and an extra low slot.
Type II doesn't have more CPU,only more PG,which I rarely run low on. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:11:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:Ok,I just played a match,and literally took only two shots before I died with the type II suit.Same match with the type I,and was able to take a few more shots.
I'll never use the type II again.The survivability just isn't there for me.I know that he number support that the type II is better,but on the battlefield,it just isn't,and that's the only numbers that really count for me.As they say,the game isn't played on paper. You're doing it wrong. I don't mean to be a ****, I mean that you are doing something wrong. More shield skills and better shield upgrades. Type ii is better when you fit it right. EDIT:Extra low slot could mean more CPU. Just saying.
Shield extender, enhanced shield regulator,Shield management level 3,and shield operation level 4.Don't know what else there is to do.
I deleted that fit,and won't use it again.seems that too many weapons are meant to cut through your shield faster,and without any armor,you are toast when your shield is depleted.
I'll just save up for the Type A like I've been intending to do anyway.
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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:27:00 -
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Lonewolf514 wrote:stop thinking defence and think offence. that what that suit is for. maybe wrong didnt decide yet. or maybe a mid offence
Thinking defense,but playing offense.I'm not sitting back waiting,I'm running in,and that suit can't take it,plain and simple.
TBH,I don't notice the speed difference either,so like I said before,I'll never use it again as I see it having no real advantage over the type I,which I seem to play better with. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 21:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:There is more to type-II suits than just shield/armor HP as noted above.
Eve/Dust follows the concept of 'Full Metal Alchemist' which refers to equivalent exchange. If you wish to gain something, you must give up something else of equal value and vice versa.
Well, that's more than a bit vague. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 23:52:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Well, you did ask which was better and I still maintain that the type ii is better, generally. Might not fit your playstyle. If anyone tells you that you have to switch and blah blah blah tell 'em look at your KDR. I switched to type ii last build before i swore off AR's and I died a lot at first. A whole lot. But then I got my style down and a fit I liked. I loved the type ii and did better than ever with it. If you're winning with the type i then wear it.
I guess my only real advice would be use what you like, but if you feel like you just can't go any further with it, then the type ii is a very good suit and might work better for you then.
I shouldn't have told you that you were doing it wrong, earlier. That was my bad. All that matters is that at the end of the day you're still vertical and they aren't.
I wasn't asking which one is better per se,because from my experience,the Type I is better for me.I was wondering what advantages the Type II had over the Type I,other than shield.
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Posted - 2012.10.21 01:40:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Then the advantages are shield and extra slot. And it has more roman numerals in the name so you know it's even more awesomer.
Type I has the same amount of slots.
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