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Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:37:00 -
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I don't even know how to balance this game anymore but I swear if anyone says that tanks are underpowered and forge guns need a nerf I will hunt them down in every single match and taco drop them until they die. |
Lavirac JR
DUST University Ivy League
129
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:40:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:I don't even know how to balance this game anymore but I swear if anyone says that tanks are underpowered and forge guns need a nerf I will hunt them down in every single match and taco drop them until they die.
No you won't because they will have tanks or dropships :-P |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
363
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:47:00 -
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And I'll have my "OP" Forge Gun. Taco dropping will continue as advertised.
EDIT:Not saying anyone said that they were OP here, exactly...I don't think. But I know someone was thinking it. Be warned. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:52:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? so yes i completely agree with you that it takes less time to get 3 million isk than it does to get 100,000 sp Um it does for me and hace you maxed your defensive ( depending on tank) skills and are using the best mods you can? Sorry for tipos srry bro i assumed everyone was good enough to 20 thousand sp per match when they go infantry and I only have standard modules because i haven't unlocke the skills fo better ones(i also diddn't count that towards the total sp required at the beginning) |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:54:00 -
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Lavirac JR wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:I don't even know how to balance this game anymore but I swear if anyone says that tanks are underpowered and forge guns need a nerf I will hunt them down in every single match and taco drop them until they die. No you won't need to track them down because they will have tanks or dropships if they managed to save up enough isk :-P |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 15:58:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:A specced out tank is overpowered against infantry soldiers. You have to allow people to defend themselves.
So what is it? You want to pay a couple hundred thousand ISK for a vehicle that can never get destroyed and that destroys everything? It can only destroy things it sees so like they do in real life, go stealthy if you see an overwhelming force and also they could defend prior to the AV nerf but they only used swarms so they could make their stories sader |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:01:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. Which seems fair considering swarm launchers are pretty much useless against any pilot with half a brain. ive explained this plenty of times but i will do it again... explosive damage is not good against shields therefore it is quite obvious it would be bad. also you still fail to prove why it is fair. Also, please explain were it states the Forge Gun is explosive type damage? It's a rail gun that stores electrical charged kinetic slugs. i was talking about his swarm launcher |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:11:00 -
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You were doing it wrong then. I'll admittedly say that I don't know how tanks builds "should" be, but I know that i've never two hit a gunnlogi, ever. Even when I had my proto Grimlock, I never two hit any tank except for poorly fittied militia tanks. I'd get damn near close, i'll say that, but never two hit.
Please don't turn this into a QQ thread about nerfing things (not saying that anyone was doing that, just advising). AV is serving it's purpose. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:14:00 -
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if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:17:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast.
Hehe, I wanted your tank so damn bad the other day. Not sure if you remember me chasing you around entire match as the only AV guy with my forge gun.. I was like motha fkas!!!! kill ze tank, it's worth so much iskies.. lol , but in the end it was just me still :( Think you killed me like 8 times hah. Hell of a tank on your tank |
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Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:29:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Average Joe81 wrote: ARs are anti infantry, does that mean it should kill infantry in two hits? if you said yes they you should go back to cod.
Hellooooooo ?? AR fire 750 rounds per minute. Forge Gun need 3 seconds to charge one shot up. See the different ? How about HAV ? They suppose to be anti-infantry, Should they be able to one shot any single infantry they come across ? They do atm. Are you saying you have a problem with this as well ? the infantry should die if he gets in the tanks way because you can tell where the tank is at any time threw out the game |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:34:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. Hehe, I wanted your tank so damn bad the other day. Not sure if you remember me chasing you around entire match as the only AV guy with my forge gun.. I was like motha fkas!!!! kill ze tank, it's worth so much iskies.. lol , but in the end it was just me still :( Think you killed me like 8 times hah. Hell of a tank on your tank
lol good stuff, we should squad up sometime bud |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:34:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:38:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs
you're only looking at the weapon cost, with the rest of the fit it probably costed over 200k and the accentuated risk of being a slow, large infantry unit means they could die dozens of times before getting a single shot on you |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:39:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:there were two forge guns to take out 1 alright tank in 5 shots total.
I was one of those forge gunners. They are fine now with how many vehicles are used. fuckn dont come here sayn its fair as is if you only used a standard forge gun |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:40:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs
80k for the gun, then you got the suit, the mods and and not to mention your slow as fk and you got an anti vehicle weapon to protect yourself against other infantry.. sounds fair to me |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:45:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs you're only looking at the weapon cost, with the rest of the fit it probably costed over 200k and the accentuated risk of being a slow, large infantry unit means they could die dozens of times before getting a single shot on you yes because you need a proto dropsuit because that makes all the difference and i agree that rushing forwards in an AV dropsuit is the best way to go rather than staying behind the frontlines so you can stil see the tank but enemys cant see you |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:48:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs you're only looking at the weapon cost, with the rest of the fit it probably costed over 200k and the accentuated risk of being a slow, large infantry unit means they could die dozens of times before getting a single shot on you yes because you need a proto dropsuit because that makes all the difference and i agree that rushing forwards in an AV dropsuit is the best way to go rather than staying behind the frontlines so you can stil see the tank but enemys cant see you thank you for conceeding to my point |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:52:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs you're only looking at the weapon cost, with the rest of the fit it probably costed over 200k and the accentuated risk of being a slow, large infantry unit means they could die dozens of times before getting a single shot on you yes because you need a proto dropsuit because that makes all the difference and i agree that rushing forwards in an AV dropsuit is the best way to go rather than staying behind the frontlines so you can stil see the tank but enemys cant see you thank you for conceeding to my point cogh cogh its called sarcasem fagut |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:53:00 -
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get a dictionary, you need it
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Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:55:00 -
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Here's another question...we're going to be fulfilling contracts for players, right? Doesn't that mean that some matches are gonna be much more valuable than others? Don't bring a tank to a cheap match. Maybe there will be contracts that will make it worth it to lose a tank if it means completing the contract. That is where it's going, right? If that's the case then let a forge take you out or maybe they can't, but it won't take 50 matches to make the ISK back. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:56:00 -
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Standard breach forge gun - 2000 damage i think not including any skills for it like the weapon t lvl5 which adds more DPS
You can put that on a skinweave suit and have an AV fit less than 20k
The gunlogi costs 200k - fittings can be 500k+ on top so at least 700k+ and a 20k fit if that can easily solo a gunlogi on its own
Also take into account with skills - SP wise the tank requires so much more |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:56:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs 80k for the gun, then you got the suit, the mods and and not to mention your slow as fk and you got an anti vehicle weapon to protect yourself against other infantry.. sounds fair to me if you havent noteced its actually sort of good against enemies when you get the drop on them. in fact one forge gunner killed my group of three people and we i thought we were geting struck by lightning because the was no tracer rounds telling me where he was |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
363
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:57:00 -
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So we are now saying that forge guns are OP and/or tanks need a buff? |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:59:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs 80k for the gun, then you got the suit, the mods and and not to mention your slow as fk and you got an anti vehicle weapon to protect yourself against other infantry.. sounds fair to me if you havent noteced its actually sort of good against enemies when you get the drop on them. in fact one forge gunner killed my group of three people and we i thought we were geting struck by lightning because the was no tracer rounds telling me where he was
Yes they can work as anti infantry, if you get spot on shots.. which is tough to do actually especially when they move around... the splash dmg doesn't effect infantry as much as it used to now, and you have to charge up the gun.. 3 guys can easily own you while your just charging for a shot.. but I won't deny what you said can happen... but it doesnt ALWAYS happen and is something to be proud of when it does |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:00:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:So we are now saying that forge guns are OP and/or tanks need a buff?
hehe sounds like it |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:03:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:if your tank only costs 350k, then thats why it got popped so fast. still, in my book 350k is a larger amount than 80k maby i would under stand if it were two people but you have to admit this it a huge peice of bs 80k for the gun, then you got the suit, the mods and and not to mention your slow as fk and you got an anti vehicle weapon to protect yourself against other infantry.. sounds fair to me if you havent noteced its actually sort of good against enemies when you get the drop on them. in fact one forge gunner killed my group of three people and we i thought we were geting struck by lightning because the was no tracer rounds telling me where he was Yes they can work as anti infantry, if you get spot on shots.. which is tough to do actually especially when they move around... the splash dmg doesn't effect infantry as much as it used to now, and you have to charge up the gun.. 3 guys can easily own you while your just charging for a shot.. but I won't deny what you said can happen... but it doesnt ALWAYS happen and is something to be proud of when it does 2 splash hits kill bro, so if the first hit is done by suprise the forge gunner will have time for a second shot |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:07:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:So we are now saying that forge guns are OP and/or tanks need a buff? This seems like a reasonable alternative to endless back to back nerfs |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:16:00 -
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CCP PLEASE REMOVE EVERYTHING FROM THE GAME AND GIVE US SMOOTH PEBBLES TO THROW AT EACHOTHER, LEAVE US WITH ONLY ONE MAP THAT RESEMBLES A BIG EMPTY FIELD OF DIRT.. Thank you |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:23:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:CCP PLEASE REMOVE EVERYTHING FROM THE GAME AND GIVE US SMOOTH PEBBLES TO THROW AT EACHOTHER, LEAVE US WITH ONLY ONE MAP THAT RESEMBLES A BIG EMPTY FIELD OF DIRT.. Thank you you mean like battlefeild with pistols only and half damage?
EDIT: you mean like that one map with 3 objectives and remove snipers and vehicles? that sounds like a huge improvement for that map... |
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