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Shijima Kuraimaru
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:40:00 -
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Conraire wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? If they're poorly tanked a stealth bomber can take out a BC in short order, especially if they get a chance to fire more than one bomb off, by for example not moving or trying to get out of the area.
I love my Purifier. LOL
But as I pointed out in another post, besides rail and missile installations and vehicle mounted turrets, AV Grenades, SWARMS, and Forge guns... What else are tanks vulnerable to?
Heavy forge gunners are vulnerable to everything. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:15:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Conraire wrote:[quote=STB Vermaak Doe]Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? Heavy forge gunners are vulnerable to everything. BUULLLL **** Use a blaster or missile main launcher and you'll see
Ah. Excuse me. A heavy forge gunner isn't vulnerable to SWARMS. But otherwise, we're vulnerable to all the same damage that other infantry are, we just take the beating a little bit better. Been OHKed by tanks on more than one occasion. LOL |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:24:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. Which seems fair considering swarm launchers are pretty much useless against any pilot with half a brain. ive explained this plenty of times but i will do it again... explosive damage is not good against shields therefore it is quite obvious it would be bad. also you still fail to prove why it is fair. Standard Forge Gun damage = 1200 meaning it'll eat through your shield. Again butthurt over losing a few hundred thousands worth of ISK.
Basic forge = 1200 4sec charge.
Assault forge = 1260 2.5 sec charge and does not store charge.
Breach forge = 2100 6 sec charge.
Not sure of the ones above that. And that's before the 30% damage bonus I get from weaponry 5 and the enhanced heavy weapon damage amplifier. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:32:00 -
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Calgoth Reborn wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Basic forge = 1200 4sec charge.
Assault forge = 1260 2.5 sec charge.
Breach forge = 2100 6 sec charge.
Not sure of the ones above that. And that's before the 30% damage bonus I get from weaponry 5 and the enhanced heavy weapon damage amplifier. Weaponry 5 only give's you 10% damage boost they changed it to 2%per lvl from 5%
Well crap. (pout)
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Shijima Kuraimaru
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:25:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:ok heres another story that pisses me of because you know, everyone likes to listen to me complain.
I turn around the corner in my tank and then every single AV stops shooting at the dropship and fires at me. in the time it took me to back up behind the cover i was droped to 15% armor and then the enemy dropship finishes me of in one hit. there was one malitia swarm, one standard forge gun, and one advanced forge gun. i get hit twice by the forge guns and then one swarm goes around the cover to get me after i make a 90 degree turn(which only took me five seconds to do) i get shot by the dropship and then i get really pissed off as the other tank driver some how manages to call in his third tier 2 tank in that one match. is there some kind of million isk bug ive been unable to find or am i just realy poor? also im just going to switch to dropsuits because even as a logi i got a 7 multi kill but as a tank i cant even get three. i guess the cod fags are getting what they want: one part of the game been op and the other being completely unuseable
I find it hard to believe you know what you're getting shot by considering that the only weapon displayed is the one that laid the kill shot. And asking in local who hit you with what isn't a valid reason as I wouldn't tell you I was shooting at you, much less what with, to give you one more name you'd know you had to look out for. Though you might look out for me anyway because I reply on this thread. :P |
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Posted - 2012.10.23 06:41:00 -
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One of the other things you have to look at as to why people hunt tanks, when they show up, is because a tank is a significant threat that we want off the field ASAP if it's not on our side. |
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Posted - 2012.10.23 06:42:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:ok heres another story that pisses me of because you know, everyone likes to listen to me complain.
I turn around the corner in my tank and then every single AV stops shooting at the dropship and fires at me. in the time it took me to back up behind the cover i was droped to 15% armor and then the enemy dropship finishes me of in one hit. there was one malitia swarm, one standard forge gun, and one advanced forge gun. i get hit twice by the forge guns and then one swarm goes around the cover to get me after i make a 90 degree turn(which only took me five seconds to do) i get shot by the dropship and then i get really pissed off as the other tank driver some how manages to call in his third tier 2 tank in that one match. is there some kind of million isk bug ive been unable to find or am i just realy poor? also im just going to switch to dropsuits because even as a logi i got a 7 multi kill but as a tank i cant even get three. i guess the cod fags are getting what they want: one part of the game been op and the other being completely unuseable I find it hard to believe you know what you're getting shot by considering that the only weapon displayed is the one that laid the kill shot. And asking in local who hit you with what isn't a valid reason as I wouldn't tell you I was shooting at you, much less what with, to give you one more name you'd know you had to look out for. Though you might look out for me anyway because I reply on this thread. :P the standard forge gun killed the tank, I knew it was a malitia swarm because there was another tank that was killed 3 times, and then there was a DAU assault forge gun that killed me when i was in a dropsuit later in the match.
Still... You don't know everything that shot at you. :P |
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:31:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:One of the other things you have to look at as to why people hunt tanks, when they show up, is because a tank is a significant threat that we want off the field ASAP if it's not on our side. Its because they cant aim and therefore need to use the easiest to use weapon in the game. every person ive seen who uses AV alwase suckes at killing infantry.
Well when using AV we're kind of limited to scramblers and SMGs. So of course we're going to suck at killing infantry. It's one of the things we gave up for being able to ace a vehicle. |
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:36:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:ok heres another story that pisses me of because you know, everyone likes to listen to me complain.
I turn around the corner in my tank and then every single AV stops shooting at the dropship and fires at me. in the time it took me to back up behind the cover i was droped to 15% armor and then the enemy dropship finishes me of in one hit. there was one malitia swarm, one standard forge gun, and one advanced forge gun. i get hit twice by the forge guns and then one swarm goes around the cover to get me after i make a 90 degree turn(which only took me five seconds to do) i get shot by the dropship and then i get really pissed off as the other tank driver some how manages to call in his third tier 2 tank in that one match. is there some kind of million isk bug ive been unable to find or am i just realy poor? also im just going to switch to dropsuits because even as a logi i got a 7 multi kill but as a tank i cant even get three. i guess the cod fags are getting what they want: one part of the game been op and the other being completely unuseable I find it hard malitto believe you know what you're getting shot by considering that the only weapon displayed is the one that laid the kill shot. And asking in local who hit you with what isn't a valid reason as I wouldn't tell you I was shooting at you, much less what with, to give you one more name you'd know you had to look out for. Though you might look out for me anyway because I reply on this thread. :P the standard forge gun killed the tank, I knew it was a malitia swarm because there was another tank that was killed 3 times, and then there was a DAU assault forge gun that killed me when i was in a dropsuit later in the match. Still... You don't know everything that shot at you. :P I know how many times i got hit and what weapons the AVs had. I can also infer that since a forge gun canot fire twice within the same second i must have been hit by two different forge gunners. I can also infer that scince I saw four missles coming at me It must be a malitia or standard swarm launcher since they only fire 4 missles and forge guns don't shoot missles. I can also infer that scince it is exteremely easy to make an AV weapon hit a tank because they are gigantic slow moving targets, every single AV shot was a hit.
I still find your argument shakey as there are a lot more variables on the battle field than just what you see. Dust doesn't operate on the "Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal" principle after all. And hits that are simultaneous or within a sixteenth of a second to each other will register as a single event to your perceptions.
Sure, you might know what hit you in this story, might, but that will be a rare case. |
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Posted - 2012.10.25 06:18:00 -
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immortal ironhide wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:I find that the massive amout of armor more than makes up for the forced side arm and also i said the reason you became an AV is because you cant use a weapon that actually takes skill to use. Now i have to admit that tanks dont require as much skill as the normal classes, but at least it requires some skill and also if you still dont believe me that tanks require skill then the isk and sp cost should be the tie breaker. the obvious person who should win in a battle like that should be the tank(or at least he should be able to get away in time if he tries to escape imediately) lolwut? so people who spec into an AV weapon that is used to take out vehicles only do it because they cant aim and need to use the easiest weapon in the game? LOL fail logic there sorry bro. I am specd almost fully into Forge Guns, therby making me able to drop tanks and dropships somewhat easily (if 4 shots on a gunnlogi is considered easily). If i get into an infantry battle i WILL lose, not because i cant aim, but because i have a forge gun (not very useful against an ar as i am dead by the time i charge to any decent player) and an smg ( again will always lose to any halfway decent player with an ar as they have more range). As Shijma said, people use AV weapons and hunt tanks because 1 tank on the field can do more damage than 8 infantry. Im gunna take a guess that since you have a gunnlogi you use missiles since they are the only thing people put on those now since they get that extra bonus. These truly take no aiming.. just look in the direction and keep shooting and at some point you will get a kill. (unless they didnt address the hydraulics and the missiles still toss the tank around which i havent seen yet this build so im gunna guess they fixed that) To me it just seems you are upset that people actually specd into something to take out that rolling death machine of yours, instead of into ARs as most people did since you get more infantry battles than vehicle battles with the price of items. Also, even being specd almost fully into forge guns i can still pick up an assault rifle and kill people, once again defeating your idea that people go AV since they cant aim. Oh and hitting infantry with a weapon that takes time to charge when they are moving actually takes some skill since the gun shakes while charging.
On top of what Immortal Ironhide has said... I have actually racked up a decent amount of kills with my Assault Scrambler w/ Enhanced Sidearm Damage Amplifier. So the quip about me going AV because I can't aim is an invalid point. |
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