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TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.18 01:47:00 -
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Like the topic says. |
Government CheeseBurger
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
232
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Posted - 2012.10.18 01:49:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Like the topic says.
Don't think so....
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Ragna Soul
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2012.10.18 01:59:00 -
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shouldnt be hotfix shouldve fixed that
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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.18 02:06:00 -
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I still get shot by full auto tacticals, or what seems like them.. I am suspecting some modded controllers being used or something |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.10.18 02:28:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still get shot by full auto tacticals, or what seems like them.. I am suspecting some modded controllers being used or something
Examples
MW3
J8ug 9 months ago
why do you knifen++
Austin Hyer 10 months ago
Reply
turns on the mod fastn++
J8ug in reply to Austin Hyer 10 months ago |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.18 06:36:00 -
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The glitch made it fire seven hundred some rounds per minute, very few people can pull trigger/push button that fast, but a few can.
Many people with practice can fire five to six hundred a minute, which is still faster then a breech ar full auto.
I'm sure some are using modded controllers too.
Best fix in my opinion is lower max rate of fire to 500 to 600 rounds per minute, and buffer any trigger pulls that are faster then the rate of fire(human finger speed will not be constant so some pulls could be missed). Then the modded controller gives no advantage over somebody with some practice. |
Jack McReady
A.C.M.E Corp
71
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Posted - 2012.10.18 07:31:00 -
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give it the recoil and weapon kick from last builds back, problem solved, modded controller wont hit a barn with it when firing "full auto" |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
164
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:37:00 -
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Yeh, it's definitely a semi auto now. +1 to the actual reduction of RPM. I'd go so far as to say drop the RPM to 360. I think 6 rounds in a second is more than enough. If the breech, which is auto, has a low rate of fire, then a semi should be equal or lower again. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
164
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:38:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:give it the recoil and weapon kick from last builds back, problem solved, modded controller wont hit a barn with it when firing "full auto"
+1 |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:14:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Like the topic says.
Only if I really spam pressing R1 really, really fast but then the problem is trying to land any bullets on target.
Using normal DS3 controller.
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:00:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still get shot by full auto tacticals, or what seems like them.. I am suspecting some modded controllers being used or something
This!
I feel bad for you! I too have been shot by these fully auto TARs! All I say is meh! You go to to be a real no lifer and really suck just to get that advantage! But then again this is New Eden and everything goes!  |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:10:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Like the topic says. Only if I really spam pressing R1 really, really fast but then the problem is trying to land any bullets on target. Using normal DS3 controller.
Same here with a mouse (we're talking about REALLY fast rate). But that is good as it takes skill to do that.
About the suggestion to make each shot kick/scatter, please remember that each individual shot is pretty weak. And what's written on the line above.
About maximum firing rate, I do find it silly for a tac to 'infinite' rof is pressed fast enough. Rof should be good yes, but there should be some roof. |
ST1CKY V1CKY
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:20:00 -
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just get rid of the tac  |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
164
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:39:00 -
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I did like using the Tac in the last build but unfortunately even after fixing it's auto fire in this build they've still left the scope horrible to use. It does have it's place though once it's fixed a bit more. |
Your MonkeyWrench
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:09:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Yeh, it's definitely a semi auto now. +1 to the actual reduction of RPM. I'd go so far as to say drop the RPM to 360. I think 6 rounds in a second is more than enough. If the breech, which is auto, has a low rate of fire, then a semi should be equal or lower again.
I'm a TAR user. I can only back you up on that, 360 RPM must be enough. I don't think I can pull the trigger much faster than that and making rapid fire controllers useless through this change can only be good.
Some testing should be done, if a lot of people can fire much faster maybe the RPM should be capped at 420. |
Alshadow
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:54:00 -
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the tactical needs slightly more dmg and a slower fire rate that way its not nerfed, but its not usable by moded controllers |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
164
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:10:00 -
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Your MonkeyWrench wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Yeh, it's definitely a semi auto now. +1 to the actual reduction of RPM. I'd go so far as to say drop the RPM to 360. I think 6 rounds in a second is more than enough. If the breech, which is auto, has a low rate of fire, then a semi should be equal or lower again. I'm a TAR user. I can only back you up on that, 360 RPM must be enough. I don't think I can pull the trigger much faster than that and making rapid fire controllers useless through this change can only be good. Some testing should be done, if a lot of people can fire much faster maybe the RPM should be capped at 420.
Thinking about it again I'd nearly drop the rate of fire to 180rpm. I'm not sure about the extra damage as Alshadow said as I haven't used the upper tier Tac rifles. Maybe though, as suggested, just a tiny bit would be perfect. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:41:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Your MonkeyWrench wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Yeh, it's definitely a semi auto now. +1 to the actual reduction of RPM. I'd go so far as to say drop the RPM to 360. I think 6 rounds in a second is more than enough. If the breech, which is auto, has a low rate of fire, then a semi should be equal or lower again. I'm a TAR user. I can only back you up on that, 360 RPM must be enough. I don't think I can pull the trigger much faster than that and making rapid fire controllers useless through this change can only be good. Some testing should be done, if a lot of people can fire much faster maybe the RPM should be capped at 420. Thinking about it again I'd nearly drop the rate of fire to 180rpm. I'm not sure about the extra damage as Alshadow said as I haven't used the upper tier Tac rifles. Maybe though, as suggested, just a tiny bit would be perfect.
That's where I feel a tactical longer range gun like that should be, 3-4 rounds a second .. no more then that. I don't care what people say, nobody can consistently for hours rapid fire their trigger 10-12 times a second... which clearly points to modded fast fire controllers being used, people got a taste of it on full auto and now they know how to keep and will abuse it til it's fixed |
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