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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.17 21:02:00 -
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I was wondering after reading about npc players not liking the BPO's and gear prizes being solely for player ran corps in this tourney. Will ccp ever hold some sort of bpo lottery like they did when introducing t2 bpo's into eve, or has it been discussed? it would allow for people to get hands on a nice bpo with the same chances as anyone else... just a thought |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.17 21:03:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I was wondering after reading about npc players not liking the BPO's and gear prizes being solely for player ran corps in this tourney. Will ccp ever hold some sort of bpo lottery like they did when introducing t2 bpo's into eve, or has it been discussed? it would allow for people to get hands on a nice bpo with the same chances as anyone else... just a thought
+1 :D |
SGT Garrisson
On The Brink
60
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Posted - 2012.10.17 21:04:00 -
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there not BPO from the tourny there 50 run and 25 run BPC there not permenant
so once used on release there not getting them back
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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.17 21:04:00 -
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SGT Garrisson wrote:there not BPO from the tourny there 50 run and 25 run BPC there not permenant
so once used on release there not getting them back
the black ops LAV is permanent and this doesnt only apply to them, I was asking in general for any future bpo |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1035
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Posted - 2012.10.17 22:13:00 -
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In dust all lotteries occur at the end of a gun, best be lucky then. |
Shiro Mokuzan
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
106
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Posted - 2012.10.17 22:31:00 -
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They stopped doing BPO lotteries years ago when they introduced invention.
I doubt they'll put it in DUST just like I doubt they'd add learning skills, another thing that was removed from EVE. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2012.10.17 22:42:00 -
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public players can get hold of them, if they offer enough isk that is ^^. we make the effort to take part, train and win, and as such as rewarded for your effort, if you want one put the effort in. ^^
and before you say you dont have the time, i have a full time job and go fencing training twice a week and hold down a steady relationship so its not hard, it just takes effort and planning. its like saying NFL players should not get paid just because you can't take part. feck off they put their whole lives towards that one goal and are rewarded as such. same story here |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.17 23:36:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:public players can get hold of them, if they offer enough isk that is ^^. we make the effort to take part, train and win, and as such as rewarded for your effort, if you want one put the effort in. ^^
and before you say you dont have the time, i have a full time job and go fencing training twice a week and hold down a steady relationship so its not hard, it just takes effort and planning. its like saying NFL players should not get paid just because you can't take part. feck off they put their whole lives towards that one goal and are rewarded as such. same story here
fencing? people still do that **** |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.10.18 01:06:00 -
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bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.18 02:04:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever
how so? |
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
391
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Posted - 2012.10.18 02:08:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:public players can get hold of them, if they offer enough isk that is ^^. we make the effort to take part, train and win, and as such as rewarded for your effort, if you want one put the effort in. ^^
and before you say you dont have the time, i have a full time job and go fencing training twice a week and hold down a steady relationship so its not hard, it just takes effort and planning. its like saying NFL players should not get paid just because you can't take part. feck off they put their whole lives towards that one goal and are rewarded as such. same story here fencing? people still do that ****
yes. it turns fighting with swords is fun... |
Riot Ruckus
Doomheim
56
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Posted - 2012.10.18 03:57:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so?
Because people cheated. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:19:00 -
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Riot Ruckus wrote:
Because people cheated.
I got two... without it, so how it is possible? But you have right. When ppl cheat (because all cheat ->so wrong sentence) nothing is good. Legit players must do almost 10x efforts to make same as cheaters... not much ppl have that strong will.
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Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:36:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so?
some of them couldn't resist giving the BPOs away to friends and alliance members. i hate to think of the amount of real income ccp lost due to that scandal. sad thing is it wasnt clamped down on hard enough internally, to a degree this **** is still going on. it's just information on new builds/changes now not items, and information in EvE is key. |
Frank A
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:36:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so?
iirc (it was years ago)
Because a CCP insider (can't remember who), who was a member of an alliance 'fixed' it so his corpmates recieved more than the others - or something along those lines, it was quite a scandal - I'm sure you could find more info on the Internets if you so wish. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:39:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:public players can get hold of them, if they offer enough isk that is ^^. we make the effort to take part, train and win, and as such as rewarded for your effort, if you want one put the effort in. ^^
and before you say you dont have the time, i have a full time job and go fencing training twice a week and hold down a steady relationship so its not hard, it just takes effort and planning. its like saying NFL players should not get paid just because you can't take part. feck off they put their whole lives towards that one goal and are rewarded as such. same story here
With you bro, if people don't earn it, it's not worth anything. The BLACK OPS HAV BPO has to be earned and you have to be the best corporation out there, ( I'm planning on getting it ) =) |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:42:00 -
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Riot Ruckus wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so? Because people cheated.
So by this logic no game should ever be made, because its possible that someone could cheat, and if someone can cheat its a bad development decision. So the only good development decision is not to develop in the first place? |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:46:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:Riot Ruckus wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so? Because people cheated. So by this logic no game should ever be made, because its possible that someone could cheat, and if someone can cheat its a bad development decision. So the only good development decision is not to develop in the first place?
you don't get it. it was the devs who cheated. |
Muscaat 514
EVE Markets
14
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:48:00 -
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Frank A wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so? iirc (it was years ago) Because a CCP insider (can't remember who), who was a member of an alliance 'fixed' it so his corpmates recieved more than the others - or something along those lines, it was quite a scandal - I'm sure you could find more info on the Internets if you so wish.
The famous 't20 scandal'... |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:52:00 -
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imo this topic should be locked as the op prolly knew the outcome of this thread. lock it op is trolling and flamebaiting. |
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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:17:00 -
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Frank A wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so? iirc (it was years ago) Because a CCP insider (can't remember who), who was a member of an alliance 'fixed' it so his corpmates recieved more than the others - or something along those lines, it was quite a scandal - I'm sure you could find more info on the Internets if you so wish.
wrong, I'm fairly sure you are confusing the t2 lottery with the t20 incident involving ccp employee.. where a guy who was friends with BoB seeded in a titan bpo and some other goodies for them.. he just got a light slap on the wrist and left a few years later from ccp. That really didn't cause that much harm to the future, BoB is dead afterall and goons make more isk then them prints ever would have so eh. Alot of people think the t2 bpo's themselves should be removed from the game because they feel it ruined the economy.. they are wrong, just hating because they don't have a print |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:21:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:imo this topic should be locked as the op prolly knew the outcome of this thread. lock it op is trolling and flamebaiting.
wtf man, I'm not trolling **** you litle turd :p
this is a legit topic asking about future events that could be possible that have been done in the past by ccp. so stfu man |
Azold N'Kar
12
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:23:00 -
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Frank A wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so? iirc (it was years ago) Because a CCP insider (can't remember who), who was a member of an alliance 'fixed' it so his corpmates recieved more than the others - or something along those lines, it was quite a scandal - I'm sure you could find more info on the Internets if you so wish.
T20 (CCP) |
Frank A
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:28:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Frank A wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so? iirc (it was years ago) Because a CCP insider (can't remember who), who was a member of an alliance 'fixed' it so his corpmates recieved more than the others - or something along those lines, it was quite a scandal - I'm sure you could find more info on the Internets if you so wish. wrong, I'm fairly sure you are confusing the t2 lottery with the t20 incident involving ccp employee.. where a guy who was friends with BoB seeded in a titan bpo and some other goodies for them.. he just got a light slap on the wrist and left a few years later from ccp. That really didn't cause that much harm to the future, BoB is dead afterall and goons make more isk then them prints ever would have so eh. Alot of people think the t2 bpo's themselves should be removed from the game because they feel it ruined the economy.. they are wrong, just hating because they don't have a print
I'm tired So i'm glad i put iirc (which obviously I didn't ) |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:30:00 -
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Frank A wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Frank A wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:bpo lottery was one of the biggest wrong dev decisions in eve ever how so? iirc (it was years ago) Because a CCP insider (can't remember who), who was a member of an alliance 'fixed' it so his corpmates recieved more than the others - or something along those lines, it was quite a scandal - I'm sure you could find more info on the Internets if you so wish. wrong, I'm fairly sure you are confusing the t2 lottery with the t20 incident involving ccp employee.. where a guy who was friends with BoB seeded in a titan bpo and some other goodies for them.. he just got a light slap on the wrist and left a few years later from ccp. That really didn't cause that much harm to the future, BoB is dead afterall and goons make more isk then them prints ever would have so eh. Alot of people think the t2 bpo's themselves should be removed from the game because they feel it ruined the economy.. they are wrong, just hating because they don't have a print I'm tired So i'm glad i put iirc (which obviously I didn't )
easy confusion really t2 t20 both dealing with bpo, I'm tired myself and didn't even seen the iirc |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
187
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:41:00 -
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Shiro Mokuzan wrote:They stopped doing BPO lotteries years ago when they introduced invention.
I doubt they'll put it in DUST just like I doubt they'd add learning skills, another thing that was removed from EVE.
This ^^
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Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:52:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:
you don't get it. it was the devs who cheated.
I do get it, I was aroud in Eve at the time of the scandle. Im still kittened that they decided to remove the lottery die to internal abuse. The lottery system was great. I had just trained an alt to full R&D skills and started accumilating points hoping to get my hands on a TII Ship BPO and then bam heres some Datacores for your trouble.
The lottery gave vets who had been researching for years a better chance of finding that break through in technology but still allow new players a chance at it aswell. Gave it a kind of real world sence of Technological advancement, its not allways the company who been researching the longest that make the ground breaking discoveries alot of the time its the little guy working alone in his shed. Also the longer it went on the more BPO's were spawned and the cheaper those BPO's became. Removing the lottery has caused more issues with massively over priced BPO's that only the Vets or rich folk have and newer players have got little chance of obtaining one. With the Invention mechanics the BPO's are far superior from a cost to produce point of view.
I still vote for it to be reintroduced lol wishing i know.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:48:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:
you don't get it. it was the devs who cheated.
I do get it, I was aroud in Eve at the time of the scandle. Im still kittened that they decided to remove the lottery die to internal abuse. The lottery system was great. I had just trained an alt to full R&D skills and started accumilating points hoping to get my hands on a TII Ship BPO and then bam heres some Datacores for your trouble. The lottery gave vets who had been researching for years a better chance of finding that break through in technology but still allow new players a chance at it aswell. Gave it a kind of real world sence of Technological advancement, its not allways the company who been researching the longest that make the ground breaking discoveries alot of the time its the little guy working alone in his shed. Also the longer it went on the more BPO's were spawned and the cheaper those BPO's became. Removing the lottery has caused more issues with massively over priced BPO's that only the Vets or rich folk have and newer players have got little chance of obtaining one. With the Invention mechanics the BPO's are far superior from a cost to produce point of view. I still vote for it to be reintroduced lol wishing i know.
I got mine as a prize, ****** little missile bpo lol, but it still got a price tag of 5-6 bil. It just sits there collecting dust in a station container |
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