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WHz DS9899
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.16 02:36:00 -
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My take on the MTACs -
I think there should be just like the regular dropsuits, having similar guns, and having different types, like a light, two mediums, and a heavy. This is how I think they should be laid out:
Light: Has one gun, no equipment slot, and the same module setup as the scout dropsuits; the fastest MTAC type.
Assault: Has two guns, one equipment slot, same module setup as the assault dropsuits; the second slowest MTAC type.
Support: Has one gun, two equipment slots, same setup as the logi dropsuits; the second fastest MTAC type.
Heavy: Has three guns, no equipment slots, same setup as the Heavy dropsuits; The slowest MTAC type.
Gun types are the same, but adding a AA missle launcher, which would only be for heavy, and a laserrifle type deal, but with a longer beam range and overheating time. Also, on vehicles, there could be a ammo count, which could be refilled at points on the map, at the base, or by vehicle nanohives, which could be deployed by my care package idea thread. The MTAC's could even carry the Care packages to a specific point.
Equipment Types-
Repair beam: Repairs vehicles at a faster rate than the handheld versions; can't repair dropsuits.
Vehicle nanohive: deployable nanohive that can refill vehicles at a slower rate than the care packages' nano hive
Radar scans: for other vehicles, and stronger versions can scan for dropsuits. the radar has a time limit before shutting down.
Video feed: Can get a video feed from the commander's UCAV, which can be viewed from my Remote controlled drones idea thread.
(P.S, if you want to critize me, please be reasonable, and explain yourself. Thank you )
EDIT: now thinking about it, I want to take away the sniper rifle, because that just seems silly to have. Also, the turrets that the MTAC and other vehicles that I have discuessed that are simlar to the MTAC in size and firepower gets the weapons class called super-light vehicle turrets. These turrets are weaker than small, and stronger than the 2 heavy weapons. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.16 03:09:00 -
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Why would someone use a regular dropsuit over an MTAC, cost aside? |
WHz DS9899
Doomheim
136
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Posted - 2012.10.16 03:20:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Why would someone use a regular dropsuit over an MTAC, cost aside?
Way more mobile, and the Light MTAC is as fast as the Heavy dropsuit. Plus, two militia launchers to the face is death for a tier 1, so They're not as good as you think. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.16 04:41:00 -
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Multiple weapons should be dual wielded. All weapon slots should be heavy weapon slots. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.10.16 05:10:00 -
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So pretty much bigger suits seems pointless the MTAC could do everything a suit can normally do. Im just think this is a bad idea it seems pointless |
SGT Garrisson
On The Brink
60
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Posted - 2012.10.16 10:00:00 -
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id wait and see what they intend to do with the MTAC first
i cant see them having more HP than a lav tho
i agree they should all carry heavy version of hand held weapons they probly wont tho just vehicle turrets |
WHz DS9899
Doomheim
136
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:08:00 -
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And I want to say that the weapons the MTAC could be called super-light vehicle weapons (the same as that VTOL jet) that is In bewteen regular heavy weapons firepower and small vehicle firepower. And to the guys that think that this is pointless, and that they will be OP, just think about how vulernable they will be in wide open maps to Swarm missles, forge cannons, and other weapons, but then useless in closed in maps to where there's lots of things in the way. Then, I got the idea to where someone can shoot you out of it with say a sniper, so now on top of everything, you could be even be shot out. |
Shiro Mokuzan
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
106
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Posted - 2012.10.16 22:14:00 -
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Having way too much space between lines,
Like this,
Makes things harder to read
And
Takes up lots of space.
Just saying. |
WHz DS9899
Doomheim
136
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Posted - 2012.10.16 22:55:00 -
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I did not, Ijust spaced it out some. Please fix that post. Thank you. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:33:00 -
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WHz DS9899 wrote:Way more mobile, and the Light MTAC is as fast as the Heavy dropsuit. Plus, two militia launchers to the face is death for a tier 1, so They're not as good as you think.
That isn't sensible. Heavy dropsuits are already quite slow. People would not accept being forced to crawl across the map. And reducing speed to something well below even heavy dropsuits would make combat a very simplistic thing, as you wouldn't be fast enough to do much more than stand in place and shoot. Being dropsuits, these things would also die quickly to snipers.
None of the ideas you've expressed sound more compelling than MTACs being vehicles, being mechs, and functioning as mechs might be expected to. |
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WHz DS9899
Doomheim
136
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:36:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:WHz DS9899 wrote:Way more mobile, and the Light MTAC is as fast as the Heavy dropsuit. Plus, two militia launchers to the face is death for a tier 1, so They're not as good as you think. That isn't sensible. Heavy dropsuits are already quite slow. People would not accept being forced to crawl across the map. And reducing speed to something well below even heavy dropsuits would make combat a very simplistic thing, as you wouldn't be fast enough to do much more than stand in place and shoot. Being dropsuits, these things would also die quickly to snipers. None of the ideas you've expressed sound more compelling than MTACs being vehicles, being mechs, and functioning as mechs might be expected to.
well they step further, so it balances out a little.I mean how fast they step is about the speed of the heavy. Think before you type k? |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
161
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Posted - 2012.10.17 02:45:00 -
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I am just wondering if it will be open so that we can. or if we will be enclosed inside of some sort of capsule. If enclosed we don't got to worry about snipers. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.17 04:33:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:WHz DS9899 wrote:Way more mobile, and the Light MTAC is as fast as the Heavy dropsuit. Plus, two militia launchers to the face is death for a tier 1, so They're not as good as you think. That isn't sensible. Heavy dropsuits are already quite slow. People would not accept being forced to crawl across the map. And reducing speed to something well below even heavy dropsuits would make combat a very simplistic thing, as you wouldn't be fast enough to do much more than stand in place and shoot. Being dropsuits, these things would also die quickly to snipers. None of the ideas you've expressed sound more compelling than MTACs being vehicles, being mechs, and functioning as mechs might be expected to.
Because if the mtacs are as mobile or less mobile than infantry, they won't have a fast mode of transportation available unless they take the risk of dropping it in during a fire fight |
angelarch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2012.10.17 10:00:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:WHz DS9899 wrote:Way more mobile, and the Light MTAC is as fast as the Heavy dropsuit. Plus, two militia launchers to the face is death for a tier 1, so They're not as good as you think. That isn't sensible. Heavy dropsuits are already quite slow. People would not accept being forced to crawl across the map. And reducing speed to something well below even heavy dropsuits would make combat a very simplistic thing, as you wouldn't be fast enough to do much more than stand in place and shoot. Being dropsuits, these things would also die quickly to snipers. None of the ideas you've expressed sound more compelling than MTACs being vehicles, being mechs, and functioning as mechs might be expected to. Because if the mtacs are as mobile or less mobile than infantry, they won't have a fast mode of transportation available unless they take the risk of dropping it in during a fire fight
If MTACs are mechs, then the traditional way to handle this [from other games] is that they should have jump jets to travel some distance before the jets run out of power and need to charge up again.
So with limited flight-time they can't fly all over the place like a dropship, but they CAN boost up over the roof of a building, or jet suddenly to escape an ambush. Then when landed, they make up for slow speed with the ability to use cover in terrain like hugging walls of buildings or ducking behind some other form of cover.
EDIT: And if you want to get fancy, add a truck to the game that another player can drive to transport his buddy MTAC to the front with, or let MTAC's hitch a ride on top of a HAV, or hang tethered [or with one hand grabbed on] from the bottom of a dropship like a Chinook would tether carry vehicles into battle IRL. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2012.10.25 10:49:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:So pretty much bigger suits seems pointless the MTAC could do everything a suit can normally do. Im just think this is a bad idea it seems pointless Installations that cost a massive amount of ISK are the reason the mercs in powered suits are used rather than just bombarding the planet clean from space. The MTACs are a bit big to get in and clear enemy from human sized access points without causing damage |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.10.25 13:47:00 -
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I.judt think one size of MTAC would be good and.it should be fitted and act like a vehicle not some special weapon that only they can use just vehicle stuff, infantry weapons wouldn't have the power they should have small turrets |
Raze galder
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:06:00 -
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Let us see what CCP comes up with first. They said they plan for next year so i say ride it out until then. |
epicsting
Doomheim
60
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:03:00 -
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Why not just make em the size and scale of ac5 it was about 5m tall and they were light medium ,and hevy. |
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