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Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.14 20:21:00 - [1] - Quote Look, I'm not going to sit here and say nothing in DUST has ever been OP, but really guys...you need to think before you type. I know this is going to be hard for some people but just stick with it, trust me. Next time you think something is OP and needs a nerf why don't you, instead of posting another kittenkittenkittenkitten nerf thread, put forth some effort to find something that could use a buff? As in, something that could be made more awesome to counterbalance whatever you think is OP? It's really very simple, actually. OP things kill too many people. You nerf them and less people die. That equals less fun. So instead of whining that you're dying all the time maybe we could think of some ideas that would let you take a few of the bastards with you? Or maybe give you a chance to kill them and make them whine. This game is fun when everybody gets killed a lot and there's explosions and all sorts of cool stuff. So you're losing your suit? So what? If you get more kills you get more money and have more fun. What do you think is better? Going 5/4 in a match or going 12/10? So what are some things that could use a buff?
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.10.14 20:26:00 - [2] - Quote Nova knife, small blaster turrets, and scout's cpu capacity
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.14 20:26:00 - [3] - Quote lolazers need a buff. I went 20/1 against a bunch of people using lasers in militia assault gear. I have never tried the laser weapon, but I pretty much lol when ever some one is trying to kill me with it.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.10.14 20:30:00 - [4] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: lolazers need a buff. I went 20/1 against a bunch of people using lasers in militia assault gear. I have never tried the laser weapon, but I pretty much lol when ever some one is trying to kill me with it. Lol no, they were using them within your ar range weren't they? The closer the enemy the less damage it does but i think they could use some kind of sight
Nstomper Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0 205	Posted - 2012.10.14 20:30:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: lolazers need a buff. I went 20/1 against a bunch of people using lasers in militia assault gear. I have never tried the laser weapon, but I pretty much lol when ever some one is trying to kill me with it. No no no laser rifles are fine the way they are , burning down shields and health
Eskel Bondfree DUST University Ivy League 76	Posted - 2012.10.14 20:48:00 - [6] - Quote Nstomper wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: lolazers need a buff. I went 20/1 against a bunch of people using lasers in militia assault gear. I have never tried the laser weapon, but I pretty much lol when ever some one is trying to kill me with it. No no no laser rifles are fine the way they are , burning down shields and health Lasers could need a slight increase in maximum effective range I think. I was playing a couple of matches today with milita heavy + laser, the range felt like it's the same as on standard AR. So you never get to fully play out the actual advantage of the lasers. Without some levels in sharp shooter, the range of engagement just feels too restrictive, especially since the zoom magnification seems to be much higher than that on standard ARs. I constantly zoomed in on people, only to realize they were out of range, really annoying.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.14 20:56:00 - [7] - Quote My AR has better reach than my lazor but tbh thats just fine cos it melts face leave it alone .
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.14 21:11:00 - [8] - Quote Haven't messed with the knife but I hear it isn't good. I can see an issue with the scoutsuit's CPU. But then again, it's in keeping with the rest of the suits. Just a bummer that you can't fit the more advanced weapons on the lower tier suits as easily as you can on the rest of them. And what's wrong with small blaster turrets?
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2012.10.14 21:27:00 - [9] - Quote Here is a thought: you can either nerf AR !OR! give a boost to just about every other weapon in the game - both would accomplish the same end result of balancing things. Which one is easier and most time efficient - you be the judge. Nuff said.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.10.14 21:50:00 - [10] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Haven't messed with the knife but I hear it isn't good. I can see an issue with the scoutsuit's CPU. But then again, it's in keeping with the rest of the suits. Just a bummer that you can't fit the more advanced weapons on the lower tier suits as easily as you can on the rest of them. And what's wrong with small blaster turrets? For the scout, have trouble fitting the stuff that's meant for it even though it's all t1 and both my weapons are sidearms For the blaster, i think) t should be a bit more like the Ar, decent rof with a decent damage while now it's crazy high rof, p*ss poor damage

Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.10.14 21:51:00 - [11] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Here is a thought: you can either nerf AR !OR! give a boost to just about every other weapon in the game - both would accomplish the same end result of balancing things. Which one is easier and most time efficient - you be the judge. Nuff said. Nerfing the Ar would be easier and less time consuming, that aside all it needs is some recoil
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.14 21:54:00 - [12] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Here is a thought: you can either nerf AR !OR! give a boost to just about every other weapon in the game - both would accomplish the same end result of balancing things. Which one is easier and most time efficient - you be the judge. Nuff said. The AR isn't OP. Have you ever played in a prototype only match. Prototype HMGs and SMGs wreck face. In certain situation the HMG and SMG will beat the AR every time. People just cry about ARs because all the cool kids use them. It reminds of a goonswarm quote-"I don't want to ruin the game. I just want to ruin your game."
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.10.14 23:06:00 - [13] - Quote Also: don't say something is OP before you've tried it yourself.
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.14 23:45:00 - [14] - Quote Yea, I've played a good bit of almost every weapon class (except shotguns, they just weren't for me) and I can say that AR's aren't OP at all. The only issue with them is that they require almost no SP to dominate. They are pretty beastly right from the start. Right now everyone running AR's is dominating because the rest if us have to deal with the SP cap to get the good stuff. Seems like SP is the real issue anyway.
Khortez D Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:13:00 - [15] - Quote what in the world is "kitten", internet slang is getting weird
undeadsoldier90 UnReaL. 113	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:16:00 - [16] - Quote AR's are not OP.... they are what they should be.... armor eaters. The only 2 things that need to be fixed are the repair tool sp nerf, and the heavy dropsuit armor. Why in the name of Odins Beard would you make a proto heavy have the same armor as a lvl 1 or malitia heavy? What insentive is their to lvl the heavy DS up at all? I can fit most of my proto gear on my heavy and its still a lvl 1. The only thing that would make me even lvl it is to get the 2 highs and 2 lows but that is not much to look forward too. Heavies used to be something that took a combined team effort to take down, now 1 person with a militia assualt rifle can pretty much tear through their armor without help.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:32:00 - [17] - Quote Khortez D wrote: what in the world is "kitten", internet slang is getting weird log in, go to chat, and try to say a curse word.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2012.10.16 05:44:00 - [18] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Here is a thought: you can either nerf AR !OR! give a boost to just about every other weapon in the game - both would accomplish the same end result of balancing things. Which one is easier and most time efficient - you be the judge. Nuff said. The AR isn't OP. Have you ever played in a prototype only match. Prototype HMGs and SMGs wreck face. In certain situation the HMG and SMG will beat the AR every time. People just cry about ARs because all the cool kids use them. It reminds of a goonswarm quote-"I don't want to ruin the game. I just want to ruin your game." This begs a simple question: how come 'the cool kids' use AR exclusively? Coincidence? If by cool kids you mean ppl with high KDR, this is exactly the crown who are interested in inflating their stats by any means possible. Presently, this involves defending AR stats at all cost. Meanwhile the game suffers because no one really wants to touch other weapons because they got coodies in this build since AR got all the love in the world.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.10.16 06:17:00 - [19] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Here is a thought: you can either nerf AR !OR! give a boost to just about every other weapon in the game - both would accomplish the same end result of balancing things. Which one is easier and most time efficient - you be the judge. Nuff said. The AR isn't OP. Have you ever played in a prototype only match. Prototype HMGs and SMGs wreck face. In certain situation the HMG and SMG will beat the AR every time. People just cry about ARs because all the cool kids use them. It reminds of a goonswarm quote-"I don't want to ruin the game. I just want to ruin your game." Are you comparing Prototype HMGs and SMGs to Proto ARs or to ARs in general? I'm assuming since you said proto only that all gear in the match is proto, in which case perhaps when all skills are in and all gear is top they are effectively balanced. But that's only a small selection of the gear on the market and an even smaller selection of the games played. Balanced at pure proto is not equal to balanced at all levels. Also if most players are running one weapon type, or if the most successful players are running one weapon type, that needs to be addressed. Battlefield roles are not properly balanced if one fit/build/role/weapon/suit etc. is king over all the rest. That by definition is an imbalance.
KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2012.10.16 06:57:00 - [20] - Quote Is there really any way to know what might need buffed to balance the game when nobody [almost] is using anything other than ARs.......

Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2012.10.16 07:22:00 - [21] - Quote "i got something you can nerf" unzips pants
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.16 07:26:00 - [22] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: "i got something you can nerf" unzips pants That doesn't need a nerf, it's already small enough.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2012.10.16 07:29:00 - [23] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Sobriety Denied wrote: "i got something you can nerf" unzips pants That doesn't need a nerf, it's already small enough. yea that's what you're mom says


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