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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:33:00 -
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Competition motivates quite a few gamers and I've had an idea regarding rivalries in Dust 514
Include in the Match Wrapup page two in points of into, who you killed most and who killed you most. Give the Mercs a name for who thwarted them most during a game (just because a bounty system isn't as mechanically feasible for Dust doesn't mean Mercs should be any less hunted in New Eden than Pod Jockeys)
EDIT: Also include who you cost the most ISK (and how much), who cost you the most ISK (and how much) and add Corp/Alliance tags to the killfeed.
On the character information sheet you could also include the Alliance/Corp which has cost you the greatest loss of ISK.
0.02 ISK Cross
Additional: Add "vengeance" kills to the kill feed. (i.e. when hostile X kills your squad mate and you kills hostile X within Y time you get a 'vengeance kill') In addition to the kill feed such kills could also give a small WP reward (such as 2-5 WP, possibly with a capping mechanic if it's deemed gains from this token award are somehow too high). |
Raven Tesio
Liandri Hel-Jumpers Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.10.12 06:20:00 -
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It sound like you are suggesting something similar to Halo's After-Battle Reports, where you have the overview screen; but then you can flick on to individual players and see details from that game.
I quite like that concept as well, something that is annoyingly missing from almost every other FPS. With the Game Metrics that CCP store, they're not just saving who & what killed you but also who provided assistance what you were using and even where you were on the map.
There are alot of things they can provide us with that data in a semi-verbose way post game. Wouldn't mind seeing for example a Battle Report screen (perhaps on the Character Sheet) that you can see all your post-game reports.. along with an API that can be used outside for Corporations to have their own DUST Killboards (like you get with EVE)
As for hunting them down ala Bounty System, as I understand it from Fanfest; there will be an "Arena" mode where you can challenge Corporations, Squads or Individuals to a more scaled down and competitive combat. If they can add wagers (kinda like how corp contracts work) then think it would work really well for settling differences. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.12 06:27:00 -
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Raven Tesio wrote:It sound like you are suggesting something similar to Halo's After-Battle Reports, where you have the overview screen; but then you can flick on to individual players and see details from that game.
I quite like that concept as well, something that is annoyingly missing from almost every other FPS. With the Game Metrics that CCP store, they're not just saving who & what killed you but also who provided assistance what you were using and even where you were on the map.
There are alot of things they can provide us with that data in a semi-verbose way post game. Wouldn't mind seeing for example a Battle Report screen (perhaps on the Character Sheet) that you can see all your post-game reports.. along with an API that can be used outside for Corporations to have their own DUST Killboards (like you get with EVE)
As for hunting them down ala Bounty System, as I understand it from Fanfest; there will be an "Arena" mode where you can challenge Corporations, Squads or Individuals to a more scaled down and competitive combat. If they can add wagers (kinda like how corp contracts work) then think it would work really well for settling differences.
I haven't actually played Halo multilayer (unless you count playing split screen on the first Halo with no net connection) but that sounds like the same idea
More details and more of a sanguine aspect to the game (and I am really looking forward to the release of the Dust API. A big Thank You to CCP for confirming they'll be using the same API system for Dust and EVE once the game is live).
Thanks for the response and the additional information (I hadn't heard about the Arena mode) Cross |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:59:00 -
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Would be real nice. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.13 09:29:00 -
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little bump for more eyes |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.10.16 04:46:00 -
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Still looking for more feedback on this |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.16 04:54:00 -
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I like this idea. I heard them nention kill-mails before, and I wonder if they mean something like this. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.16 04:59:00 -
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I think this is a decent idea, I mean how could we go wrong with more details from our matches!!
I would also like to see some kind of match history, where I can view the last X days worth of my matches.
Being able to re-watch my matches would be awesome too, with the added benefit of being able to move the camera to wherever I wanted in the match. More FPS games need to start doing this. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:58:00 -
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Thanks for the responses so far
With the tournament coming up I'm pushing this back to the top because especially for tournament matches (and honestly for their training lead up as well) more match details would be quite valuable. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.28 01:26:00 -
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It might also have a synthesis well with things like Tournaments and Corp battles :) |
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VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
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Posted - 2012.10.28 03:14:00 -
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+1 for sure |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.11.09 20:19:00 -
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bump |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.11.10 00:37:00 -
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i like after battle reports, that would be a nice addition. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
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Posted - 2012.11.10 01:13:00 -
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Yes please.
+1 |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.11.10 03:54:00 -
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We could also add a third, possible even more relevant, point to the above as well.
ISK Loss inflected or Greatest ISK loss inflected by ____
This would also have the added tactical benefit of letting you know who in Dust slagged your super HAV, popped your Dropship, or burned through seven of your pure proto fits. There by not only increasing the 'grudge factor' but also letting players know who's really costing them, it might not bee who you think and if true wouldn't that be interesting to find out? :)
Cheers, Cross
Additional: Listings for the above which include weapon type would also be great. Knowing what you kill with, and die because of, most often is a valuable learning tool.
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angelarch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.10 04:10:00 -
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I love any metrics to see how your squad or corpmates are performing,
but wouldn't a generic list like this encourage grief-play? as certain players would make a point of singling out and harassing individuals for lols on the kill boards?
"fun" for some, not fun for others? (just sayin'. . .) |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.11.13 22:41:00 -
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You are correct that this could be used by griefers. I'm not sure however if it would actually increase the amount of grief play. Rather it seems to me that players inclined to that sort of play will play in that manner regardless of the metrics we have available to us, and as such we may as well proceed.
0.02 ISK Cross |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.11.14 01:28:00 -
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+1. Metrics are great. Also, corp tags being visible in the killfeed and player list would increase corp rivalries... |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.11.15 20:16:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:+1. Metrics are great. Also, corp tags being visible in the killfeed and player list would increase corp rivalries... I like it, adding it to the OP.
Cheers, Cross |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.12.16 19:03:00 -
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Interested in further thoughts on this from the community.
Cheers, Cross |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.12.16 23:24:00 -
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I'd love an after report on things like my "Nemesis", the person who killed me the most, which person I killed the most and such. Sometimes when I see certain players on the battlefield I go after them so it'd be nice to see my efforts noticed :D |
Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.17 03:29:00 -
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ISK efficiency stat would be nice. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2013.01.21 19:52:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:ISK efficiency stat would be nice. Love it! +1 |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:03:00 -
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I like your idea- I tossed this out there a day ago ( Grudge Enhancer not to divert from your idea) but I thought your idea is great, and my idea married with it would be the ultimate grudge point. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2013.01.23 22:36:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I like your idea- I tossed this out there a day ago ( Grudge Enhancer not to divert from your idea) but I thought your idea is great, and my idea married with it would be the ultimate grudge point. Thanks for the link I'll go check it out |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2013.01.31 17:14:00 -
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Updated |
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