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Renegade Asura
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.08 23:20:00 -
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seeing on the score board, players are having 0 kills 0 deaths but 1000's of war-points. They are taking their LAV's, ramming them into hills and have someone repair the vehicle for war-points to call in orbital bombardments.
The system for gaining orbital bombardments needs changing so that it doesn not get abused. or else teams can hide behind the redlines gaining war points. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.08 23:48:00 -
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Renegade Asura wrote:seeing on the score board, players are having 0 kills 0 deaths but 1000's of war-points. They are taking their LAV's, ramming them into hills and have someone repair the vehicle for war-points to call in orbital bombardments.
The system for gaining orbital bombardments needs changing so that it doesn not get abused. or else teams can hide behind the redlines gaining war points.
It is a known problem, CCP are looking at it and have acknowledged that this is not intended to be this way. In other words it is a bug, and the ones doing this are exploiting this bug.
Luckily for the rest of us, and our sense of fairness, CCP tend to take a dim view on people using exploits. People caught in doing it deliberately tend to not be heard from again. First time offenders who are deemed to not know any better tend to just have their gains removed, crippling them in the process with negative ISK wallets. I guess SP as well on DUST. |
Renegade Asura
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.08 23:59:00 -
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Thanks for the info, I'll start posting info about the people abusing this bug |
Lusneic
Roid Rage Academy Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:02:00 -
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There is another way of doing this with a HAV and a blaster, by shooting the blaster into a wall or building. People doing this are prity safe from OB depending on the HAV health.
The splash damage from the blaster means there are a lot more players able to rep the armor. When I tested this with a squad of 4 we got about 20 OB that's over kill |
Governor Odius
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:09:00 -
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I'm a dropship pilot and logi. Most of my means of warpoint gain do not involve me getting kills.
Just sayin', don't report me for having 1000 WPs and 0k0d. |
Renegade Asura
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:43:00 -
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Bravo Ghost, D0C HOLLIDAY, and a few others from Vilore Sec Ops 0/0 7000 WP? |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:53:00 -
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Renegade Asura wrote:seeing on the score board, players are having 0 kills 0 deaths but 1000's of war-points. They are taking their LAV's, ramming them into hills and have someone repair the vehicle for war-points to call in orbital bombardments.
The system for gaining orbital bombardments needs changing so that it doesn not get abused. or else teams can hide behind the redlines gaining war points. this was happening with the enemy team with STB guys. one dude who was never on the battlefield got 40/0 while 2 others were 0/0 and 0/1. they were the top 3 on the enemy team and we still won despite the precision strikes. |
Maxyne Mallende
Robot Pirate Ninja Corporation
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Posted - 2012.10.09 04:25:00 -
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Governor Odius wrote:I'm a dropship pilot and logi. Most of my means of warpoint gain do not involve me getting kills.
Just sayin', don't report me for having 1000 WPs and 0k0d.
That will definitely be the trick -- how to reward "legitimate" non-combat activities (hacking, repping/reviving, driving, etc) without allowing for total abuse... Seems like repping damage caused by your own team shouldn't count for anything (if you can truly track the source of damage, as that seems to be the predominant abuse.
-Max
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Renegade Asura
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.09 04:47:00 -
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Maxyne Mallende wrote:Governor Odius wrote:I'm a dropship pilot and logi. Most of my means of warpoint gain do not involve me getting kills.
Just sayin', don't report me for having 1000 WPs and 0k0d. That will definitely be the trick -- how to reward "legitimate" non-combat activities (hacking, repping/reviving, driving, etc) without allowing for total abuse... Seems like repping damage caused by your own team shouldn't count for anything (if you can truly track the source of damage, as that seems to be the predominant abuse. -Max
How about no damage to vehicles from driving into structures? or damage from hitting structures does not count for WP.
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CaDaVeR 85
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.10.09 04:59:00 -
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Renegade Asura wrote:Maxyne Mallende wrote:Governor Odius wrote:I'm a dropship pilot and logi. Most of my means of warpoint gain do not involve me getting kills.
Just sayin', don't report me for having 1000 WPs and 0k0d. That will definitely be the trick -- how to reward "legitimate" non-combat activities (hacking, repping/reviving, driving, etc) without allowing for total abuse... Seems like repping damage caused by your own team shouldn't count for anything (if you can truly track the source of damage, as that seems to be the predominant abuse. -Max How about no damage to vehicles from driving into structures? or damage from hitting structures does not count for WP.
Do what they did on MAG. No points for friendly damage (or damage caused by crashing) repairs. (Someone else on another thread suggested this) |
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Raiko Sai
PMW NATION
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Posted - 2012.10.09 07:14:00 -
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Governor Odius wrote:I'm a dropship pilot and logi. Most of my means of warpoint gain do not involve me getting kills.
Just sayin', don't report me for having 1000 WPs and 0k0d. logi ftw! |
Raiko Sai
PMW NATION
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Posted - 2012.10.09 07:14:00 -
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CaDaVeR 85 wrote:Renegade Asura wrote:Maxyne Mallende wrote:Governor Odius wrote:I'm a dropship pilot and logi. Most of my means of warpoint gain do not involve me getting kills.
Just sayin', don't report me for having 1000 WPs and 0k0d. That will definitely be the trick -- how to reward "legitimate" non-combat activities (hacking, repping/reviving, driving, etc) without allowing for total abuse... Seems like repping damage caused by your own team shouldn't count for anything (if you can truly track the source of damage, as that seems to be the predominant abuse. -Max How about no damage to vehicles from driving into structures? or damage from hitting structures does not count for WP. Do what they did on MAG. No points for friendly damage (or damage caused by crashing) repairs. (Someone else on another thread suggested this) and look how mag turned out lol zipper was closed down |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.09 14:06:00 -
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Having a group of truck bumpers on your team means less guys are working the objectives. Plenty of orbital strikes don't win fights. Holding the field wins fights.
As much as truck bumping is dumb and exploitive I hope the fix doesn't harm the actual fulltime logi players who are doing their jobs. |
Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:09:00 -
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Also, squad leaders get passive points, so don't blame me if on a small chance I get a k/d of 0 and still have 1000 war points... I tend to keep myself protected in the squad, but still put myself in the action. |
Maffia- Thug
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.11 04:17:00 -
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Forgive me for being dumb. But, what actually gets you war points and if anybody knows that, what is the break down of each item/task? |
xSniper1982
We Are Ready
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Posted - 2012.10.11 04:44:00 -
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WARRIORS INC....
3 of them in a 6v6 battle boosting WPs for OBs...
this needs to be fixed, they all ended up with in excess of 4000 WP each... and i know they weren't capping objectives because i was killing anyone that came near me and not once did i come across any of them.
Please guys don't use exploits like this, i hear that you're actually pretty nice people and it's a shame to see you doing this.
This needs an urgent fix by the DEVs or the game is going to be all about who can boost the fastest. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.11 12:01:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Having a group of truck bumpers on your team means less guys are working the objectives. Plenty of orbital strikes don't win fights. Holding the field wins fights.
As much as truck bumping is dumb and exploitive I hope the fix doesn't harm the actual fulltime logi players who are doing their jobs. The "fix" was to completely and utterly nerf fulltime logi's. Way to kneejerk CCP! |
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