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Ground Bat
Zumari Force Projection
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Posted - 2012.10.08 21:19:00 -
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Well now the new Codex build has brought some pretty amazing maps to play with. Thank you for those! I do also enjoy very much the over all skill system as it provides so many options how to develop a character.
However the balance of the game is very much off at the moment. All of these issues that have begun haunting me have been on these forums. If the target audience is EVE players that want to engage with an FPS game on their own Universe then fine, I'm sure the game will gather up it's niche fan group. Unfortunately I'm not one of those. I do not have EVE experience, I know nothing of the EVE universe nor I have any plans to start spending any time there. I am a casual player looking to pass some time after the kids have gone to bed or if I have some other free time on my hands. Perhaps I am not of the target audience, although I greatly enjoy RPG type sci-fi games (like Mass Effect 3 and Warhammer 40k: Spacemarine) and I think Dust 514 network play has tremendous potential to surpass those two with ease. The previous build had it's flaws, but it was still fun as you could make some progress with SP and ISK, but the current payout on either one is not rewarding at all. Sure I've seen some comments here claiming that CCP games are not for "instant gratification", but still we are talking about a console shooter. So if the target audience is the hard core grinders well good luck I'm not one of them and I'll take my exit strategy rather sooner than later. If CCP would like to expand the potential paying customer base outside the HC grinders then just maybe I have something to say, but then if not I'm very happy that I haven't spent a dime on this game yet nor I will before I can see which direction this game is going to take within the next two months.
I do realize that the current version is beta and therefore should not be regarded as the finalized product so maybe, just maybe my brain farting on this subject is premature and utterly useless. In any case here are my thoughts on couple of selected issues that are currently pushing me to look towards other free time activities.
1. WP reward balance: or there the lack of. The squad gathers the WPs to give the leader the precision strike capability and the squad leader is the only one of who's WP pool the precision strike is increasing.
2. SP rewards: I don't know but perhaps somewhere are HC grinders that actually enjoy getting 1.5k SP after spending some 30 minutes playing on an skirmish map. Yes, as a casual player I'm hardly a top dog in any of my games, but currently absolutely the best way for my type to gain SP is not to play at all. Getting this little after spending half an hour on the game and winning the battle is just ridiculous. With this kind of rewards getting even the most basic level 2 on a (x2) skill takes 20 matches which in my case means several days of playing. So yes the absolutely best way for my type to advance is not to play and just come back after half a year once enough SP has been accumulated up passively and spend the time on something else, more rewarding and enjoyable. The current system is just frustrating.
3. ISK payout: ISK payout is currently just not enough the game to be classified as fun. You cannot even know how much ISK you get before hand and thus cannot estimate the level of risk you can take to avoid going bankrupt. I don't expect to be paid enough to buy tanks after every battle, but I am expecting to accumulate enough ISK to maintain the basic suits and buying the skill books.
If I'm not of the target audience then everything is fine and you all can just ignore me. Please note also that this is just my personal opinion and might not reflect any possible opinions or views of wider public. |
Ground Bat
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:03:00 -
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..gave it another round of thought today and drew my conclusions.
Gone fishing. See you in the next build, maybe if nothing more interesting doesn't show up in the mean time. Cheers! |
Ground Bat
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:07:00 -
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Skihids wrote:You say you are a casual player, but then you claim to have hit the cap to the point you are earning only 1.5 SP per match.
How are you doing that? How many hours are you actually playing? It's my understanding that it takes many hours of play to reach that much reward decay.
Cap..hardly. My total lifetime SP is less than 800k. The 1,5k SP reward example was drawn from a match yesterday was a full battle starting from a warbarge ready room, skirmish in which I managed to earn me some 350 WP as I was the one to get constantly floored due to more skilled players on the opposing side and bad luck. On average I made anything from 500-900 WP, but then the battles that I end up with higher score are very rare.
As the 1,5k SP battle was a full match the ISK reward was ok, but most of the time when I joined battles I ended up joining battles that had already been ran for some time. Nothing is more frustrating than waiting for the darn loading screen to go away and then find yourself in battle where the opposing team is base raping your team and due to this you end up losing your gear a few times while the battle ends withing the next two minutes or so. You end up with no ISK to cover your losses and no SP and yet just after first loading for a half a minute and couple of deaths you end up loading yet another half a minute to the MQ and then yet another half a minute for another battle to repeat the frigging cycle. There should be a time limit after which new players would not be added into the battle, say if the clone count on an ambush is less than 2/3 of the starting count or in a skirmish one or the other MCC shield has dropped below 50%.
Needless to say, the game got me pissed enough for now to uninstal and as said, I might be back for the next build to see if things have been improved as I believe that there is great potential within this game given that it will have a good balance and rewarding and fun gameplay in the end. |
Ground Bat
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.10 15:26:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:
2. if you think it's bad now... uhm, pretty sure this beta is accelerated. we are making more money and levelling up way faster then what you can expect at retail. so if you think it's a grind now... then maybe retail isn't for you. it's going to be worse in terms of loot and worse in terms of competition. and the grind at retail should be MUCH harder then the current build.
Could someone at CCP actually deny or confirm this kind of speculations? I'd hate to return to check the next build and the end product and find something like this? I certainly would not want to waste my time and effort for downloading something that is so far off of my idea of having fun. I'll be perfectly happy about it, I have no ambitions towards this game, but I will be very frustrated and angry if I end up wasting my time and effort for downloading something like BASSMEANT is portraying here. Give us the confirmation if this is true or not, I'll go happily away never to return if this is the case as I know this game is not worth my time.
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